Staggering climate contradiction - data that can be fudged says "warming," data that cannot be fudged says "no warming"

[EMH]

Let's start with ocean temps.

We all know the Co2 Fraud claims "warmest ever ocean temps" just about every year. If so, then hurricanes would be breaking out. But the strongest decade for canes is still the 1940s...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

Just last summer was "warmest ever." But the cane season was a complete DUD, with just one Atlantic cane reaching Cat 5 for a total of about 15 hours. Water off FLA was called "warmest ever" yet two canes got near FLA and neither got to Cat 5. In 1938, a Cat 5 got to LONG ISLAND, like NEW YORK, a bit further north...

So here we have a classic "what can be fudged and what cannot." It is hard to "fudge" a cane, although cane strength can be "fudged" and in 2014 it was, at least with one "cat 5" that did ABSOLUTELY NO DAMAGE to Mexico when "it hit as a Cat 5."

It is easy to FUDGE a temperature chart. There is a complete contradiction with the claim of "warmest ever ocean temps" and NO BREAKOUT IN CANES....


from Google

1. The first condition is that ocean waters must be above 26 degrees Celsius (79 degrees Fahrenheit). Below this threshold temperature, hurricanes will not form


HELLO. If the average temp was RISING there would be MORE CANES. THERE ARE NOT MORE CANES.

Hence the claim of "ocean temp rise" is CONTRADICTED/REFUTED by Canes.

It isn't hard to figure out what is going on. The oceans are NOT WARMING and the CANES VALIDATE that claim.

The only "evidence" of "ocean warming" is 100% pure FUDGED FRAUD.




Ditto for "ocean rise." The Co2 FRAUD claims "ocean rise." If there was an ongoing net ice melt on planet Earth, oceans WOULD RISE. They AREN'T. Once again, what can be fudged "ocean rise charts" and what CANNOT BE FUDGED.... actual photos documenting NO OCEAN RISE....

Statue of Liberty
Hawaii 5-0 beach
Venice
Norfolk Naval Base


It is time to wake up and get a clue. The Co2 FRAUD is COMPLETE FRAUD, Planet Earth is NOT WARMING, and increasing atmospheric Co2 did NOT WARM ANYTHING....

 

[Captain Caveman]

Current science is political science, it's used to conclude what governments want, it's to keep donors happy, to follow the political narrative.

 

[Robert W]

Let's start with ocean temps.

We all know the Co2 Fraud claims "warmest ever ocean temps" just about every year. If so, then hurricanes would be breaking out. But the strongest decade for canes is still the 1940s...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

Just last summer was "warmest ever." But the cane season was a complete DUD, with just one Atlantic cane reaching Cat 5 for a total of about 15 hours. Water off FLA was called "warmest ever" yet two canes got near FLA and neither got to Cat 5. In 1938, a Cat 5 got to LONG ISLAND, like NEW YORK, a bit further north...

So here we have a classic "what can be fudged and what cannot." It is hard to "fudge" a cane, although cane strength can be "fudged" and in 2014 it was, at least with one "cat 5" that did ABSOLUTELY NO DAMAGE to Mexico when "it hit as a Cat 5."

It is easy to FUDGE a temperature chart. There is a complete contradiction with the claim of "warmest ever ocean temps" and NO BREAKOUT IN CANES....


from Google

1. The first condition is that ocean waters must be above 26 degrees Celsius (79 degrees Fahrenheit). Below this threshold temperature, hurricanes will not form


HELLO. If the average temp was RISING there would be MORE CANES. THERE ARE NOT MORE CANES.

Hence the claim of "ocean temp rise" is CONTRADICTED/REFUTED by Canes.

It isn't hard to figure out what is going on. The oceans are NOT WARMING and the CANES VALIDATE that claim.

The only "evidence" of "ocean warming" is 100% pure FUDGED FRAUD.




Ditto for "ocean rise." The Co2 FRAUD claims "ocean rise." If there was an ongoing net ice melt on planet Earth, oceans WOULD RISE. They AREN'T. Once again, what can be fudged "ocean rise charts" and what CANNOT BE FUDGED.... actual photos documenting NO OCEAN RISE....

Statue of Liberty
Hawaii 5-0 beach
Venice
Norfolk Naval Base


It is time to wake up and get a clue. The Co2 FRAUD is COMPLETE FRAUD, Planet Earth is NOT WARMING, and increasing atmospheric Co2 did NOT WARM ANYTHING....

Even were it warming, places such as the CA desert called Death Valley would surely show it to be warming. But hold the phone. It is not warming at Death Valley. It still is many degrees cooler than it was in 1913.

Professor Richard Lindzen is the US premier expert on climate and he tells us over and over, since the late 1900s, do not be alarmed. What warming there is is not dangerous at all. There is no reason to panic as Biden does.

 

[EMH]

Even were it warming, places such as the CA desert called Death Valley would surely show it to be warming. But hold the phone. It is not warming at Death Valley. It still is many degrees cooler than it was in 1913.

Professor Richard Lindzen is the US premier expert on climate and he tells us over and over, since the late 1900s, do not be alarmed. What warming there is is not dangerous at all. There is no reason to panic as Biden does.

Linzden cannot be fully trusted because he is funded by the Co2 FRAUD, which is why he turns a blind eye to the truth of WHAT ACTUALLY DOES CAUSE Earth climate change, and how easy it is to prove it...

Since Co2 does nothing, what does cause Earth climate change?

The first part is understanding what is climate and what is weather. Climate is the parameters of Earth that allow certain ranges of weather. We don't get Cat 10 canes now, but we would if Earth had no ice. What are the parameters of climate that can change? Ocean levels Atmospheric...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[EMH]

Current science is political science, it's used to conclude what governments want, it's to keep donors happy, to follow the political narrative.

And it is across the board. Co2, Covid, 911, all our media cited "scientific experts" are 100% pure treasonous liars...

 

[Robert W]

Linzden cannot be fully trusted because he is funded by the Co2 FRAUD, which is why he turns a blind eye to the truth of WHAT ACTUALLY DOES CAUSE Earth climate change, and how easy it is to prove it...

Since Co2 does nothing, what does cause Earth climate change?

The first part is understanding what is climate and what is weather. Climate is the parameters of Earth that allow certain ranges of weather. We don't get Cat 10 canes now, but we would if Earth had no ice. What are the parameters of climate that can change? Ocean levels Atmospheric...

www.usmessageboard.com

Please do not spread that rumor about Richard Lindzen. He has explained over and over we should not be alarmed. That the Climate pigs are lying to us.

 

[Robert W]

Please do not spread that rumor about Richard Lindzen. He has explained over and over we should not be alarmed. That the Climate pigs are lying to us. Lindzen has a good retirement from MIT and speakers fees where he downplays dangerous climate is good proof he is not our danger, he is our friend.

 

[EMH]

Please do not spread that rumor about Richard Lindzen. He has explained over and over we should not be alarmed. That the Climate pigs are lying to us.

He does have a conflict of interest. Bust the Co2 FRAUD cold and he's out of job...

That's why he and Milloy and the other "skeptics" never get it right, and won't ask the questions...

Any honest media person with the courage to actually ask climate questions?

Apparently not. Not on Faux Not on RAV or OANN What questions will the media never ask? 1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other? 2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Robert W]

He does have a conflict of interest. Bust the Co2 FRAUD cold and he's out of job...

That's why he and Milloy and the other "skeptics" never get it right, and won't ask the questions...

Any honest media person with the courage to actually ask climate questions?

Apparently not. Not on Faux Not on RAV or OANN What questions will the media never ask? 1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other? 2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska...

www.usmessageboard.com

Lindzen is retired. He is anti the fraud of CO2 being the cause.

 

[Oddball]

Let's start with ocean temps.

We all know the Co2 Fraud claims "warmest ever ocean temps" just about every year. If so, then hurricanes would be breaking out. But the strongest decade for canes is still the 1940s...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

Just last summer was "warmest ever." But the cane season was a complete DUD, with just one Atlantic cane reaching Cat 5 for a total of about 15 hours. Water off FLA was called "warmest ever" yet two canes got near FLA and neither got to Cat 5. In 1938, a Cat 5 got to LONG ISLAND, like NEW YORK, a bit further north...

So here we have a classic "what can be fudged and what cannot." It is hard to "fudge" a cane, although cane strength can be "fudged" and in 2014 it was, at least with one "cat 5" that did ABSOLUTELY NO DAMAGE to Mexico when "it hit as a Cat 5."

It is easy to FUDGE a temperature chart. There is a complete contradiction with the claim of "warmest ever ocean temps" and NO BREAKOUT IN CANES....


from Google

1. The first condition is that ocean waters must be above 26 degrees Celsius (79 degrees Fahrenheit). Below this threshold temperature, hurricanes will not form


HELLO. If the average temp was RISING there would be MORE CANES. THERE ARE NOT MORE CANES.

Hence the claim of "ocean temp rise" is CONTRADICTED/REFUTED by Canes.

It isn't hard to figure out what is going on. The oceans are NOT WARMING and the CANES VALIDATE that claim.

The only "evidence" of "ocean warming" is 100% pure FUDGED FRAUD.




Ditto for "ocean rise." The Co2 FRAUD claims "ocean rise." If there was an ongoing net ice melt on planet Earth, oceans WOULD RISE. They AREN'T. Once again, what can be fudged "ocean rise charts" and what CANNOT BE FUDGED.... actual photos documenting NO OCEAN RISE....

Statue of Liberty
Hawaii 5-0 beach
Venice
Norfolk Naval Base


It is time to wake up and get a clue. The Co2 FRAUD is COMPLETE FRAUD, Planet Earth is NOT WARMING, and increasing atmospheric Co2 did NOT WARM ANYTHING....

The moonbats have all the bases covered...


Lots of hurricanes?....Goebbels warming.
No hurricanes?...Goebbels warming.
Drought?...Goebbels warming.
Deluge?...Goebbels warming.
Heat wave?...Goebbels warming.
Cold snap?...Goebbels warming.
Blizzards?...Goebbels warming.
No snow?...Goebbels warming.
Migrant Indigent squatter invasion crisis?...Goebbels warming.
Potholes?...Goebbels warming.
Ring around the collar?...Goebbels warming.

 

[EMH]

The moonbats have all the bases covered...


Lots of hurricanes?....Goebbels warming.
No hurricanes?...Goebbels warming.
Drought?...Goebbels warming.
Deluge?...Goebbels warming.
Heat wave?...Goebbels warming.
Cold snap?...Goebbels warming.
Blizzards?...Goebbels warming.
No snow?...Goebbels warming.
Migrant Indigent squatter invasion crisis?...Goebbels warming.
Potholes?...Goebbels warming.
Ring around the collar?...Goebbels warming.

It was funny when we had a Federal Debt under $6 trillion before W took office.

And, yes, BTW, W is the first President to cover up the FBI Fraud case against the warmers.

homO quickly followed...

obama climate silence 2010 2012 - Google Search

 

[Seymour Flops]

Let's start with ocean temps.

We all know the Co2 Fraud claims "warmest ever ocean temps" just about every year. If so, then hurricanes would be breaking out. But the strongest decade for canes is still the 1940s...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

Just last summer was "warmest ever." But the cane season was a complete DUD, with just one Atlantic cane reaching Cat 5 for a total of about 15 hours. Water off FLA was called "warmest ever" yet two canes got near FLA and neither got to Cat 5. In 1938, a Cat 5 got to LONG ISLAND, like NEW YORK, a bit further north...

So here we have a classic "what can be fudged and what cannot." It is hard to "fudge" a cane, although cane strength can be "fudged" and in 2014 it was, at least with one "cat 5" that did ABSOLUTELY NO DAMAGE to Mexico when "it hit as a Cat 5."

It is easy to FUDGE a temperature chart. There is a complete contradiction with the claim of "warmest ever ocean temps" and NO BREAKOUT IN CANES....


from Google

1. The first condition is that ocean waters must be above 26 degrees Celsius (79 degrees Fahrenheit). Below this threshold temperature, hurricanes will not form


HELLO. If the average temp was RISING there would be MORE CANES. THERE ARE NOT MORE CANES.

Hence the claim of "ocean temp rise" is CONTRADICTED/REFUTED by Canes.

It isn't hard to figure out what is going on. The oceans are NOT WARMING and the CANES VALIDATE that claim.

The only "evidence" of "ocean warming" is 100% pure FUDGED FRAUD.




Ditto for "ocean rise." The Co2 FRAUD claims "ocean rise." If there was an ongoing net ice melt on planet Earth, oceans WOULD RISE. They AREN'T. Once again, what can be fudged "ocean rise charts" and what CANNOT BE FUDGED.... actual photos documenting NO OCEAN RISE....

Statue of Liberty
Hawaii 5-0 beach
Venice
Norfolk Naval Base


It is time to wake up and get a clue. The Co2 FRAUD is COMPLETE FRAUD, Planet Earth is NOT WARMING, and increasing atmospheric Co2 did NOT WARM ANYTHING....

Very true.

There is also a corollary to that. There are Ideas that can be debated with facts and reason, warmists will not be there. Like this thread.

Where all that is presented is name-calling and repetitive lies, the warmists will be there. Like the threads in which they state an opinion as fact then and name call anyone who asks a question.

 

[Donald H]

Climate Change: Global Sea Level

Sea level has risen 8-9 inches since 1880, and the rate is accelerating thanks to glacier and ice sheet melt.

www.climate.gov

 

[Robert W]

Climate Change: Global Sea Level

Sea level has risen 8-9 inches since 1880, and the rate is accelerating thanks to glacier and ice sheet melt.

www.climate.gov

I live at the 2605 elevation. Tell me why it is my problem?

 

[Robert W]

Climate Change: Global Sea Level

Sea level has risen 8-9 inches since 1880, and the rate is accelerating thanks to glacier and ice sheet melt.

www.climate.gov

That is not very much to gain. Also it is at Hawaii.

 

[Donald H]

EMH was caught making up a lie by showing the sea level at the statue of liberty being the same 100 years apart. He forgot to take into account tides.

There can't be a discussion when the OP is operating at a child's level of understanding.

 

[Donald H]

That is not very much to gain. Also it is at Hawaii.

It's an average and that's because sea level rise isn't the same throughout the world. Do you understand the reason whyi?

I'm not interested in commenting on whether or not its very much. There will be a decent adult discussion here or I won't be taking part.

First I'll call on EMH to retract his lie so we can start clean.. That's not negotiable. If anybody wants to learn something then they will abide by my rules.

 

[Donald H]

That is not very much to gain. Also it is at Hawaii.

I'm going to excuse your childish spamming by telling us your elevation. It's your last chance.

 

[Donald H]

Ocean temperature change since 1880.

Climate Change Indicators: Sea Surface Temperature | US EPA

This indicator describes global trends in sea surface temperature.

www.epa.gov

 

[mamooth]

On of my ongoing points is that denialism, being purely political kookery, is now only pushed now by right-wing uber-fascist cranks. Denialism is a mandatory belief of that cult.

Thus, I thank the resident uber-fascist cranks here for jumping in to prove my point so conclusively. They're literally not capable of discussing the topic without melting down into various hysterical political conspiracy theories.

If right-wing politics vanished, denialism would instanlty vanish along with it, because it's pure politics.

If left-wing politics vanished, the science wouldn't change a bit, because it's actual science.