Maybe Democrats Should Surrender.

[leftwinger]

LIARS the Dem politicians 100%
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The Working Families Tax Cut Act (WFTCA), signed into law by President Trump, was designed to end taxpayer subsidies for illegal immigrant healthcare and redirect resources to the most vulnerable Americans. It:

Ended Medicaid & Medicare funding for most non-citizens.

Shut down the California loophole that allowed liberal states to siphon federal dollars for illegal alien healthcare.

Blocked emergency Medicaid expansions that reimbursed hospitals more for treating illegals than for caring for American children and seniors.

Repealed the Obamacare “special rule” that gave subsidies to immigrants earning below the poverty line while denying them to poor American citizens


**According to the memo, the Democrat proposal would:

Spend $193 billion over 10 years on healthcare for illegal immigrants.

Repeal safeguards against fraud, improper payments, and abuse of federal programs.

Cancel Trump’s $50 billion rural healthcare investment.

Eliminate expanded Health Savings Accounts for 10 million Americans.

Gut work requirements for able-bodied adults, reviving failed welfare policies

The memo breaks down just how much repealing Trump’s reforms would cost taxpayers:

$91.4B – Restoring Obamacare funding for non-citizens
$34.6B – Reopening California’s Medicaid scam
$28.2B – Emergency care reimbursements for illegals
$27.3B – Obamacare “special rule” subsidies for non-citizens
$6.2B – Medicaid for non-citizens
$5.1B – Medicare for non-citizens
TOTAL: $192.8 BILLION

 

[Hafar1014]

Hospitals do not reject anyone who enters.

Only in an emergency but they only have to stabilize and can then discharge. The funding for that has been cut off

 

[Hafar1014]

Hospitals do not reject anyone who enters.

Yes they can. They only will treat in a real emergency. Then they only have to stabilize and then discharge. The funds for illegals in the ER has been cut off.

 

[Nostra]

Yep. Who knows what the public thinks of this, if anything, but dragging this out isn't helping things. This crap happens so often I think people just tune it out.

We'll see what happens when people go to renew their health insurance.

So Obamacare is a failure.

Got it.

 

[sartre play]

The open border was the dumbest most destructive policy ever imposed on America by a party in a state of decline as their beliefs caused the destruction of everything that made America great.

This is not about how we are handling immigration.
This is about Americans health care increase.
Check it out, form your own opinion.

 

[Hafar1014]

This is not about how we are handling immigration.
This is about Americans health care increase.
Check it out, form your own opinion.

What increase and how is it Trumps fault

 

[Seymour Flops]

When they go to an emergency room, and they get treated, who ends up paying for it?

The ACA is only part of this. The ACA part is the removal of premiums due to COVID that should be ended.

The other part is Medicaid funding we all know ends up going to cover hospital expenses for uninsured illegals.

Maybe for once your side can argue on the merits for once instead of lying and deflecting.

Yes, this.

Also, Biden's increase in ACA supplements included illegals granted mass parole. Dems and"not Dems" claim they are "not illegals."

 

[martybegan]

Yes, this.

Also, Biden's increase in ACA supplements included illegals granted mass parole. Dems and"not Dems" claim they are "not illegals."

One of these days they might figure out they can't run on soft lies, stretching the truth, and hiding the truth.

There is simply too much information out there these days to get away with that.

Can't stop the signal.

 

[0311]

Already been proved nitwit. The OMB estimates over 1 million illegals receive Medicaid in the U.S. Millions more get ACA through Biden era rules. All illegals have emergency care funded by the American Taxpayer.


These states offer full or partial health coverage to adults, regardless of their immigration status:

• California: Provides public health coverage to all low-income adults.
• Colorado: Offers private health coverage with state subsidies to all adults, and full Medicaid to undocumented pregnant people and children.
• Oregon: Provides public health coverage to all low-income adults.
• Washington: Offers subsidized private coverage and some public coverage options to all adults.
• District of Columbia: Provides public health coverage to all adults.
• Minnesota: Has state-funded public health coverage for adults, but new enrollment was paused in June 2025, and coverage for existing undocumented adults is set to end in January 2026.

States that provide limited coverage
These states and D.C. provide state-funded health benefits, but typically only to children, pregnant people, or seniors:

• Connecticut: Offers coverage to children under 15, with a proposal to expand coverage to those under 26 and over 65.
• Illinois: Provides public health coverage for seniors aged 65 and older. A program for adults aged 42–64 is being phased out.
• Maine: Offers Medicaid-like coverage to undocumented children and pregnant individuals.
• Massachusetts: Provides Medicaid-like coverage to undocumented children.
• New Jersey: Covers children under the age of 19.
• New York: Offers public health coverage to seniors aged 65 and older.
• Rhode Island: Provides Medicaid-like coverage to undocumented children.

Can undocumented immigrants get Medicaid?

Undocumented immigrants may or may not be eligible for Medicaid, depending on their income, where they live, their age, and whether they’re pregnant.

www.healthinsurance.org

**** off MAGA MAGGOT.

Another in long and boring list of Reich Wing Websites. Your post proves nothing, other than you prefer to stay in comfort zone dipshit.

 

[martybegan]

**** off MAGA MAGGOT.

LOL, you got ***** slapped, and that's all you got as a retort, you gutless coward.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Not everyone can handle the truth, but everyone should be given the opportunity.

Despite Trump's lies, the Democratic position does not include a demand for healthcare for immigrants without legal status.

... It does include a demand for Medicaid funding that was severely cut in Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill” passed earlier this year, as well as continuing subsidies for the Affordable Care Act.

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Democratic leadership is seeking Republican compromise on healthcare policy in their spending bill, asking for increased spending to continue Obamacare subsidies and to reverse the deep Medicaid cuts implemented in the domestic tax cut bill.​

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Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for Obamacare benefits and Medicaid...​

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Allowing ACA subsidies to expire at the end of the year could have immense ramifications, kicking millions of people off of their healthcare, skyrocketing out-of-pocket insurance premiums, and premiums across the health insurance market are to increase drastically.​

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/...nment-shut-down/ar-AA1NGPq5?ocid=BingNewsVerp​

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The Democratic position has enjoyed popular support in the face of Trump's slashing coverage:

Obamacare And Medicaid Popularity Hit All-Time High As GOP Preps Cuts
June 17, 2025​

The enhanced premium tax credits for the Affordable Care Act (ACA) are set to expire at the end of 2025. This expiration could lead to significant increases in ACA insurance premiums, with estimates suggesting a rise of up to 75% in 2026. The Congressional Budget Office has projected that about 22 million people with a health plan via the ACA marketplace would face a premium shock if these tax credits are not extended. ​

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It may well be in the electoral interests of Democrats to concede, and allow millions of Americans to be deprived of healthcare coverage by Trump and his Congressional toadies.

No surrender and no quarter

 

[schmidlap]

No, they will have to put up a fight, or be seen as caving in to Trump's cuts.

The problem that Trump's Congressional toadies have is that, by their now accommodating the Democratic position that millions of Americans not suddenly be deprived of their coverage under Medicaid and through subsidized ACA, they would be exposing their lie that the partisan impasse is about covering illegals.

For government to reopen, they'll have to concoct an alternative story line.

 

[BackAgain]

Not everyone can handle the truth, but everyone should be given the opportunity.

Despite Trump's lies, the Democratic position does not include a demand for healthcare for immigrants without legal status.

... It does include a demand for Medicaid funding that was severely cut in Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill” passed earlier this year, as well as continuing subsidies for the Affordable Care Act.

​

Democratic leadership is seeking Republican compromise on healthcare policy in their spending bill, asking for increased spending to continue Obamacare subsidies and to reverse the deep Medicaid cuts implemented in the domestic tax cut bill.​

​

Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for Obamacare benefits and Medicaid...​

​

Allowing ACA subsidies to expire at the end of the year could have immense ramifications, kicking millions of people off of their healthcare, skyrocketing out-of-pocket insurance premiums, and premiums across the health insurance market are to increase drastically.​

​

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/...nment-shut-down/ar-AA1NGPq5?ocid=BingNewsVerp​

​

The Democratic position has enjoyed popular support in the face of Trump's slashing coverage:

Obamacare And Medicaid Popularity Hit All-Time High As GOP Preps Cuts
June 17, 2025​

The enhanced premium tax credits for the Affordable Care Act (ACA) are set to expire at the end of 2025. This expiration could lead to significant increases in ACA insurance premiums, with estimates suggesting a rise of up to 75% in 2026. The Congressional Budget Office has projected that about 22 million people with a health plan via the ACA marketplace would face a premium shock if these tax credits are not extended. ​

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https://www.usmessageboard.com/javascript:void(0)

It may well be in the electoral interests of Democrats to concede, and allow millions of Americans to be deprived of healthcare coverage by Trump and his Congressional toadies.

You’re a babbling chimp.

If an illegal alien shows up in an ER with no insurance of any kind, the hospital still must treat that illegal immigrant. Who pays?

Also, some illegal aliens do get social security numbers. Why this is allowed anywhere is a confounding mystery. But upon providing that number, an illegal alien with a sufficient tax payment history can obtain Medicaid — NOT legally under Federal Law, but states like California, New York, Illinois, Oregon, and others provide it under State funds.

 

[Seymour Flops]

One of these days they might figure out they can't run on soft lies, stretching the truth, and hiding the truth.

There is simply too much information out there these days to get away with that.

Can't stop the signal.

Yes, even outlets like CNN, are starting to call them on there bologna.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Every democrat policy is in support of illegals. This is the policy that has destroyed the democrat party. Its all about the census and apportionment

The irony is that Democrats are fighting to protect Trump/Republican voters from Trump and Republicans.

 

[berg80]

It may well be in the electoral interests of Democrats to concede, and allow millions of Americans to be deprived of healthcare coverage by Trump and his Congressional toadies.

What a dilemma and a moral conundrum. Something similar to what was faced by members of trump 1.0 when many stayed at their posts as a bulwark against total chaos. The autocratic, idiotic impulses trump had were rebuffed by men like Gen. John Kelly and others. No such guardrails exist now. No idea is too illegal, immoral, or unhinged for members of the regime to approvingly nod their heads yes.

But for all the constant protests and historically low approval ratings maybe the public needs a singular event to galvanize opposition and cause a flood of calls and letters to congressmen. Fear of not being re-elected exceeding fear of trump's retribution among Repubs being something that could give the orange piece of shit pause.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The irony is that Democrats are fighting to protect Trump/Republican voters from Trump and Republicans.

You dopes can't defend yourselves. It's why Trump is POTUS.

You pushed too far

 

[westwall]

Hospitals do not reject anyone who enters.

It's against the law for them to do so.

 

[Hafar1014]

The irony is that Democrats are fighting to protect Trump/Republican voters from Trump and Republicans.

Democrats are fighting to have illegals counted in the census and thats exploding in their faces. Thanks to Trump I have more money to spend and less taxes to pay. Please protect me from that

 

[marvin martian]

The irony is that Democrats are fighting to protect Trump/Republican voters from Trump and Republicans.

Nope. The slaves are yours.