Maybe Democrats Should Surrender.

Maybe Democrats Should Surrender.​

They don't know the meaning of surrender. Surrender has been the Conservative standard operating procedure for nearly a century now. If you want to know what true surrender means, speak with ANY Conservative Right Winger. FACT.

Easy now...I side with Conservatives, I vote with Conservatives BUT they are the most nutless, spinless, big mouth pieces of shit that ever were. Come on man...they didn’t have the balls to keep heterosexual white Christians cool in a nation founded, built, run and funded by heterosexual white Christians. The Left has owned their sackless asses for decades....Sad but true.
 
Under the ACA, Undocumented individuals ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR COVERAGE!!!! The lies about them being to receive medical care under ACA is an out right, down right ******* LIE!!!

When they go to an emergency room, and they get treated, who ends up paying for it?

The ACA is only part of this. The ACA part is the removal of premiums due to COVID that should be ended.

The other part is Medicaid funding we all know ends up going to cover hospital expenses for uninsured illegals.

Maybe for once your side can argue on the merits for once instead of lying and deflecting.
 
More lies and race baiting.
The One, Big, Beautiful Bill is a generational chance to protect Medicaid for Americans by removing at least 1.4 million illegal immigrants from the program.

“House Republicans are moving to block an estimated 1.4 million illegal aliens from receiving American taxpayer-funded Medicaid as Democrats struggle to message their support for the unpopular position.
 
A 10 year cancer was cut out in 2025. Yet it remains free to re-infect? Time to isolate it. Like he did to J6.

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Indict Chris Wray: Ai generated image of Chris Wray in prison cell and J6er Ryan Samsel in prison cell following the J6 protests infiltrated by 274 FBI agents. Repirtedly, They kept Samuel in that cell 6 months 2 meals a day. Why? Don't remember? Refusing vaccine? After the beating to the ER?
 
Under the ACA, Undocumented individuals ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR COVERAGE!!!! The lies about them being to receive medical care under ACA is an out right, down right ******* LIE!!!

Documented immigrants shouldn't be getting free healthcare IMO. If they're here for work let the employers cover healthcare or their "sponsors" can flip the bill.
 
Not everyone can handle the truth, but everyone should be given the opportunity.

Despite Trump's lies, the Democratic position does not include a demand for healthcare for immigrants without legal status.

... It does include a demand for Medicaid funding that was severely cut in Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill” passed earlier this year, as well as continuing subsidies for the Affordable Care Act.

Democratic leadership is seeking Republican compromise on healthcare policy in their spending bill, asking for increased spending to continue Obamacare subsidies and to reverse the deep Medicaid cuts implemented in the domestic tax cut bill.
Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for Obamacare benefits and Medicaid...
Allowing ACA subsidies to expire at the end of the year could have immense ramifications, kicking millions of people off of their healthcare, skyrocketing out-of-pocket insurance premiums, and premiums across the health insurance market are to increase drastically.
The Democratic position has enjoyed popular support in the face of Trump's slashing coverage:

Obamacare And Medicaid Popularity Hit All-Time High As GOP Preps Cuts
June 17, 2025

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It may well be in the electoral interests of Democrats to concede, and allow millions of Americans to be deprived of healthcare coverage by Trump and his Congressional toadies.
democrats first need to fix our own party i.e. kick the white liberals downstairs [where voting is their only input] turn it over to minorities who do all the heavy lifting [while whi-ties like yourself complain on a message board about everything except the real problem, themselves]...once this happens we can return the party to prominence, until then you can just keep pointing fingers away from the real problem while waving the white [liberal] flag
 
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False. Millions of Illegals receive Medicaid and ACA healthcare. California among other states brag about it.

Prove it. Post any and all links from legitimate sources to prove what YOU know is a lie. Federal Law specifically denies ACA benefits to the Undocumented in the country. Post your ******* proof, which we both know you do not have.
 
Documented immigrants shouldn't be getting free healthcare IMO. If they're here for work let the employers cover healthcare or their "sponsors" can flip the bill.

They do not. Just in a long line of MAGA MAGGOT/ReNaziKlan LIES!!!
 
Not everyone can handle the truth, but everyone should be given the opportunity.

Despite Trump's lies, the Democratic position does not include a demand for healthcare for immigrants without legal status.

... It does include a demand for Medicaid funding that was severely cut in Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill” passed earlier this year, as well as continuing subsidies for the Affordable Care Act.

Democratic leadership is seeking Republican compromise on healthcare policy in their spending bill, asking for increased spending to continue Obamacare subsidies and to reverse the deep Medicaid cuts implemented in the domestic tax cut bill.
Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for Obamacare benefits and Medicaid...
Allowing ACA subsidies to expire at the end of the year could have immense ramifications, kicking millions of people off of their healthcare, skyrocketing out-of-pocket insurance premiums, and premiums across the health insurance market are to increase drastically.
The Democratic position has enjoyed popular support in the face of Trump's slashing coverage:

Obamacare And Medicaid Popularity Hit All-Time High As GOP Preps Cuts
June 17, 2025

https://www.usmessageboard.com/javascript:void(0)

It may well be in the electoral interests of Democrats to concede, and allow millions of Americans to be deprived of healthcare coverage by Trump and his Congressional toadies.
No illegal has a right to American healthcare.
 
Prove it. Post any and all links from legitimate sources to prove what YOU know is a lie. Federal Law specifically denies ACA benefits to the Undocumented in the country. Post your ******* proof, which we both know you do not have.

Medi-cal is on record as paying for illegal's healthcare.

Where do you think Medi-cal gets it's funding?

Cost of undocumented healthcare in California is billions over estimates, pressuring Democrats to consider cuts

The California Department of Finance said $8.4 billion of the funding to provide healthcare to undocumented immigrants is paid by state taxpayers through the state’s general fund. The remaining $1.1 billion pays for emergency room visits and pregnancy care, which the federal government covers under a federal law that requires hospitals to stabilize and treat uninsured patients in emergency departments.

And the whole "we use only State funds to pay for illegals under Medi-Cal" thing is a lie, because money is fungible and there is no real way they can say they isolated federal money given to Medi-Cal patients to only citizens and legal residents.
 
They do not. Just in a long line of MAGA MAGGOT/ReNaziKlan LIES!!!

Cost of undocumented healthcare in California is billions over estimates, pressuring Democrats to consider cuts

The California Department of Finance said $8.4 billion of the funding to provide healthcare to undocumented immigrants is paid by state taxpayers through the state’s general fund. The remaining $1.1 billion pays for emergency room visits and pregnancy care, which the federal government covers under a federal law that requires hospitals to stabilize and treat uninsured patients in emergency departments.
 
Prove it. Post any and all links from legitimate sources to prove what YOU know is a lie. Federal Law specifically denies ACA benefits to the Undocumented in the country. Post your ******* proof, which we both know you do not have.
Hospitals do not reject anyone who enters.
 
Not everyone can handle the truth, but everyone should be given the opportunity.

Despite Trump's lies, the Democratic position does not include a demand for healthcare for immigrants without legal status.

... It does include a demand for Medicaid funding that was severely cut in Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill” passed earlier this year, as well as continuing subsidies for the Affordable Care Act.

Democratic leadership is seeking Republican compromise on healthcare policy in their spending bill, asking for increased spending to continue Obamacare subsidies and to reverse the deep Medicaid cuts implemented in the domestic tax cut bill.
Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for Obamacare benefits and Medicaid...
Allowing ACA subsidies to expire at the end of the year could have immense ramifications, kicking millions of people off of their healthcare, skyrocketing out-of-pocket insurance premiums, and premiums across the health insurance market are to increase drastically.
The Democratic position has enjoyed popular support in the face of Trump's slashing coverage:

Obamacare And Medicaid Popularity Hit All-Time High As GOP Preps Cuts
June 17, 2025

https://www.usmessageboard.com/javascript:void(0)

It may well be in the electoral interests of Democrats to concede, and allow millions of Americans to be deprived of healthcare coverage by Trump and his Congressional toadies.

LOL...when did that change?

 
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Prove it. Post any and all links from legitimate sources to prove what YOU know is a lie. Federal Law specifically denies ACA benefits to the Undocumented in the country. Post your ******* proof, which we both know you do not have.


Already been proved nitwit. The OMB estimates over 1 million illegals receive Medicaid in the U.S. Millions more get ACA through Biden era rules. All illegals have emergency care funded by the American Taxpayer.


These states offer full or partial health coverage to adults, regardless of their immigration status:
  • California: Provides public health coverage to all low-income adults.
  • Colorado: Offers private health coverage with state subsidies to all adults, and full Medicaid to undocumented pregnant people and children.
  • Oregon: Provides public health coverage to all low-income adults.
  • Washington: Offers subsidized private coverage and some public coverage options to all adults.
  • District of Columbia: Provides public health coverage to all adults.
  • Minnesota: Has state-funded public health coverage for adults, but new enrollment was paused in June 2025, and coverage for existing undocumented adults is set to end in January 2026.

States that provide limited coverage
These states and D.C. provide state-funded health benefits, but typically only to children, pregnant people, or seniors:
  • Connecticut: Offers coverage to children under 15, with a proposal to expand coverage to those under 26 and over 65.
  • Illinois: Provides public health coverage for seniors aged 65 and older. A program for adults aged 42–64 is being phased out.
  • Maine: Offers Medicaid-like coverage to undocumented children and pregnant individuals.
  • Massachusetts: Provides Medicaid-like coverage to undocumented children.
  • New Jersey: Covers children under the age of 19.
  • New York: Offers public health coverage to seniors aged 65 and older.
  • Rhode Island: Provides Medicaid-like coverage to undocumented children.


 
It may well be in the electoral interests of Democrats to concede, and allow millions of Americans to be deprived of healthcare coverage by Trump and his Congressional toadies.
Absolutely. Slam dunk for the midterms, right? Let Chuckie Schumer know you want him to fold.
 
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Not everyone can handle the truth, but everyone should be given the opportunity.

Despite Trump's lies, the Democratic position does not include a demand for healthcare for immigrants without legal status.

... It does include a demand for Medicaid funding that was severely cut in Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill” passed earlier this year, as well as continuing subsidies for the Affordable Care Act.

Democratic leadership is seeking Republican compromise on healthcare policy in their spending bill, asking for increased spending to continue Obamacare subsidies and to reverse the deep Medicaid cuts implemented in the domestic tax cut bill.
Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for Obamacare benefits and Medicaid...
Allowing ACA subsidies to expire at the end of the year could have immense ramifications, kicking millions of people off of their healthcare, skyrocketing out-of-pocket insurance premiums, and premiums across the health insurance market are to increase drastically.
The Democratic position has enjoyed popular support in the face of Trump's slashing coverage:

Obamacare And Medicaid Popularity Hit All-Time High As GOP Preps Cuts
June 17, 2025

https://www.usmessageboard.com/javascript:void(0)

It may well be in the electoral interests of Democrats to concede, and allow millions of Americans to be deprived of healthcare coverage by Trump and his Congressional toadies.
Actually, Schmd, the democrats left the back door to medicaid open for them.
PM me and I'll give you the detail in how they do it.
Kaulifornia is one example :smoke:
 

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