MAGA crowd. Do these people have enough knowledge or ability to evaluate/assess who should be president, that we can have confidence in their pick?

[Luckyone]

When you are down so low to the point, that you are claiming you know how others think and feel?


You have lost your ever loving mind TBH

It is not in my mind, it is there in black and white stated by national polls. The fact that you do not see it and accusing of losing my mind, puts you in the category of a Trump blind-by-choice cult member

 

[Luckyone]

So, if you believe that, what is your plan to win elections from now on?

The Democrats have to change and do exactly what Trump did, which was to manipulate the minds of the voters

 

[Independent thinker]

The Democrats have to change and do exactly what Trump did, which was to manipulate the minds of the voters

LOL. Democrats have been trying that and it didn't work They tried manipulating the minds of Americans that the economy was good, even as Americans couldn't afford to live anymore. And, they tried manipulating the minds of voters that orange man bad, is a threat to democracy, will install himself dictator on day one and eliminate elections and the voters didn't believe that either.

In fact, a CNN poll after the election showed that out of the voters who voted solely to save democracy, 58% of those voters voted for Trump. They had also been trying to manipulate the minds of voters into thinking that Biden was up to the job which, after the debate, voters realized that the left and their media had been manipulating their minds to believe Biden was OK.

 

[Luckyone]

LOL. Democrats have been trying that and it didn't work They tried manipulating the minds of Americans that the economy was good, even as Americans couldn't afford to live anymore. And, they tried manipulating the minds of voters that orange man bad, is a threat to democracy, will install himself dictator on day one and eliminate elections and the voters didn't believe that either. In fact, a CNN poll after the election showed that out of the voters who voted solely to save democracy, 58% of those voters voted for Trump.

You said it, it did not work. They were not as good as Trump. Then again, Trump has been a successful con artists for 50 years and the Democrats try to deliver data, statistics and facts and those do not work these days.

 

[Independent thinker]

You said it, it did not work. They were not as good as Trump. Then again, Trump has been a successful con artists for 50 years and the Democrats try to deliver data, statistics and facts and those do not work these days.

LOL. Well then, I'll put you down as a never Trump Republican then who will vote for Republicans from 2028 on.

 

[Nostra]

I must be on that fabled Ignore list. Prolly 'cause I didn't kiss his ass.

I know I am. Happened right after I exposed his lying ass for the first time.

 

[Luckyone]

LOL. Well then, I'll put you down as a never Trump Republican then who will vote for Republicans from 2028 on.

I am a never Trumper for one simple reason. My personal guidelines in my life are based on morals, ethics, principles and humanity and Trump has never had any of those 4 and never will have.

Whether he is successful with the economy, inflation, immigration, vengeance, bringing down big government, etc., does have some importance but never as important as those 4 basics of what I believe life is all about.

Being a believer in there being a higher power (God, as many people call it that), the economy, inflation, big government, etc., has never been on its list. It has always been about the 4 guidelines I follow. I believe my soul will live on after I die and the soul is judged by those 4 and not by the pocketbook.

If you are not a believer, I can understand how those may not be of importance to you. On my end, I could NEVER be a supporter of Trump because he lacks what I believe life is all about.

 

[Independent thinker]

I am a never Trumper for one simple reason. My personal guidelines in my life are based on morals, ethics, principles and humanity and Trump has never had any of those 4 and never will have.

Whether he is successful with the economy, inflation, immigration, vengeance, bringing down big government, etc., does have some importance but never as important as those 4 basics of what I believe life is all about.

Being a believer in there being a higher power (God, as many people call it that), the economy, inflation, big government, etc., has never been on its list. It has always been about the 4 guidelines I follow. I believe my soul will live on after I die and the soul is judged by those 4 and not by the pocketbook.

If you are not a believer, I can understand how those may not be of importance to you. On my end, I could NEVER be a supporter of Trump because he lacks what I believe life is all about.

You could have shortened that up just to say you are a Republican and will vote Republican from 2028 on. You don't need 500 words to say that.

 

[OKTexas]

Statistics Lie? that is exactly the problem with Trumpers. They do not look at facts but they believe blindly what a liar (Trump) tells them.

Of course you have no one on iggy, given that your purpose here is to debase opposition and not to debate. Why would you ever put anyone on iggy?

You are not here to learn and gain knowledge, you are here to fight and demean.

Yet I've ran many, like you, off threads by exposing their lies, go figure.

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[Luckyone]

You could have shortened that up just to say you are a Republican and will vote Republican from 2028 on. You don't need 500 words to say that.

I am an independent and if Trump (or the Far extreme Right) is not up for election, I will decide based n the person and not the party. I was a Republican for 35 years and I have no problem voting Republican. As it is, I vote for the person and not the party. I am not a party man

 

[jc456]

LOL. Democrats have been trying that and it didn't work They tried manipulating the minds of Americans that the economy was good, even as Americans couldn't afford to live anymore. And, they tried manipulating the minds of voters that orange man bad, is a threat to democracy, will install himself dictator on day one and eliminate elections and the voters didn't believe that either.

In fact, a CNN poll after the election showed that out of the voters who voted solely to save democracy, 58% of those voters voted for Trump. They had also been trying to manipulate the minds of voters into thinking that Biden was up to the job which, after the debate, voters realized that the left and their media had been manipulating their minds to believe Biden was OK.

he really isn't a sharp knife at fking all

 

[JustAGuy1]

Tragedy and Hope 101: The Illusion of Justice, Freedom, and Democracy​ Joseph Plummer Brushfire Publishing., 2014 - History - 224 pages The information contained in this book contradicts nearly everything you've been led to believe about democracy and "representative government." Based on the groundbreaking research of respected historian Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope 101 reveals an unimaginably devious political system, skillfully manipulated by a handful of elite, which is undermining freedom and democracy as we know it. The goal of those who control the system, in Quigley's own words, is to dominate "all habitable portions of the world." Using deception, theft, and violence, they have achieved more toward this goal than any rulers in human history. However, the Information Age is quickly derailing their plans. The immorality of their system, and those who serve it, has become nearly impossible to hide. Awareness and resistance are growing...Tragedy is yielding to hope. I do not disagree that this is a fact as it is seen everywhere in the world and has been seen throughout the history of the world. I also agree that the "Information age" is starting to derail their plans. Nonetheless, where I believe you and I disagree is that Trump is using exactly this "information age" mentality to manipulate himself to being what has always been the elite and powerful being in charge. Since the 1990', Trump has used the media (either by agreeing with them or more so disagreeing with them) to generate a big following that has put him in charge.............where he can do what he wants with no one to stop him (which is the definition of an Elite in Power and being a dictator). He has obtained a cult type following that is blind to data, statistics and facts. He has accomplished that with his approach of being popular or extremely controversial in the media. He has said on many occasions that even bad reviews are good publicity. He has used publicity to gain his power.

I am not a Rumpist. I distrust ALL Gov. I encourage YOU to read it. It is eye opening.

 

[Luckyone]

I am not a Rumpist. I distrust ALL Gov. I encourage YOU to read it. It is eye opening.

FYI. My entire life has been about studying human nature. I understand how everything works and all the negatives that humans bring to the table.

Nothing in life is perfectly good or perfectly bad.

I distrust everyone but I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. As they show their true colors I lower my expectations to the same level. Nonetheless, that also means that I try not to make overall and total judgements like "I distrust ALL Gov." I try to see exactly and specifically what level exists and deal with that level (not more and not less)

 

[jc456]

FYI. My entire life has been about studying human nature. I understand how everything works and all the negatives that humans bring to the table.

Nothing in life is perfectly good or perfectly bad.

I distrust everyone but I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. As they show their true colors I lower my expectations to the same level. Nonetheless, that also means that I try not to make overall and total judgements like "I distrust ALL Gov." I try to see exactly and specifically what level exists and deal with that level (not more and not less)

Your ego becomes you

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The MAGA crowd gave us a clear manifesto of what needs to be done in the U.S., having chosen Trump for our next president.

The question comes up that is being asked is "do these MAGA people have enough brains, knowledge, evaluating/assessing capabilities that would make us feel comfortable that they chose wisely?

Here is one example showing some of the MAGA crowd



Having put that video up, it can be said by some that the video does not truly represent the MAGA crowd or only represents a small "cherry picked" portion of the MAGA people.

In doing some additional research, I did find an article that goes in a totally different direction but it does paint a much more informative picture of one of the things that is truly happening, and not only to the Trump supporters but to the Trump detractors. That is the idea that Trump is NOT A PERSON!

"not a person"? c'mon, Trump is a person and there is no doubt about it, right?

Well the article goes into the people's perception that Trump is God (Trumper's view) or that Trump is the Devil (anti-trumpers view). This is certainly crazy and against knowledge and beliefs (there is no God and no Satan) that are centered in reality...........but then again, it certainly fits in perfectly into what most people have been saying about Trump............he is God............he is Satan!

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Here is the article that talks about this:

Trumpism. In the minds of his most ardent supporters, the ex-president is both more and less than a person​

Americans today see two contradictory futures looming in the middle distance: In one scenario, Donald Trump is convicted of serious crimes and sent to prison. In the second, he returns to the presidency in 2025. How is it possible that a twice-impeached former president facing 91 criminal counts can now be elected to return to the Oval Office? Why do his supporters not recoil when Trump promises to unleash an authoritarian regime as president and to assume the role of dictator on Day One? What explains his enduring appeal?

It is worth noting that Murray’s (Harvard Psychologist) characterization of Satan bears an uncanny resemblance to the psychological portrait of Trump painted by many psychologists today. A malignant narcissism rages at the core of Satan’s personality. Cast out of heaven for his overmastering pride, Satan wants to be God, resents the fact that he is not God and insists that his supreme worth entitles him to privileges that nobody else should enjoy while undergirding his reign as sovereign of the mortal world below.

On the other side, Trump has often compared himself to a superhero. He has famously described himself as a “stable genius” who has never made a mistake. He is not lying when he makes these outrageous claims, for Trump truly believes them to be true, just as he believes he won the 2020 election. Trump is like a golden god in his mind and in the minds of many of his supporters: a superhero, able to do things that no other human can do; a warrior who fights furiously to win every battle, completely immersed in the moment. His very identity is the supremely heroic role he plays on TV and in real life. The role is charismatic and mesmerizing

After reading this article and having experienced everything said (great and horrible) about Trump, this ("not a person") view, seems to be reality we are actually experiencing.

Having said all of the above, what does this say about us (All Americans) that believe in the unbelievable?

One tangible thing that is very worrisome (when all is considered) is that talking about all Americans believing the unbelievable is bad enough, but when you consider that Trump himself (the elected president) believes he is God (or at least believes he was "chosen by God") comes into the equation, this is really scary scenario.

What do you think about this God or Satan idea that is being seen now?

Progressives and religion go together like steak and bubblegum

 

[daveman]

Progressives and religion go together like steak and bubblegum

Progressives' religion is Government.

 

[sartre play]

It is long past time for democrats to take to the streets with what weapons they can get and put an end to MAGA and republicans once and for all.

NO!

 

[sartre play]

Your post has to be one of the most biased, racist, and degrading posts ever.

Let me first say that those you are degrading does not mean they have no brains to assess and evaluate who can be the best leader. On the other side of the coin, being White and being straight, does not mean that your brain work.

Having said that, I just answered another post that in some ways addresses your post as well.

Here is that answer:

Some people help the nation more and some less but we cannot choose who goes and who stays as that is a human nature thing. It is what human nature gave you. A nation is like a football team, you need a quarterback, you need offensive players, you need defensive players, you need water boys, you need medics and you need crowds to pay for the tickets to see the games. Among that entire group of people, some are great, some are good, some are mediocre, some are bad and some are people that are not worth much at all.

Nonetheless, without all of that, there is no game. Many of the people among the fans are garbage people but they paid for the tickets (such as people pay their taxes) no matter the gender, the religion, the sexual preference, etc.. If you were to take all of those out of the game, there be no success.

No no no, our country is not a game, & should not be played like football.

 

[jc456]

NO!

George Floyd riots say otherwise.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No no no, our country is not a game, & should not be played like football.

Our country is at war. Democrats are the enemy.