Libertarian?

backed up by Dblack, post #70, so you're out of line.

"More of European socialist libertarian, fwiw."
Just like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. They MUST have democratically controlled elections to choose their representatives, right? And the 'workers' party represents the workers....

And it would not matter anyway, he directly refutes the contention that the OP demands he makes.
 
Just like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. They MUST have democratically controlled elections to choose their representatives, right? And the 'workers' party represents the workers....

And it would not matter anyway, he directly refutes the contention that the OP demands he makes.
I assume he knows all that and is just playing the demagogue. But maybe not. Maybe he's as stupid as he seems.
 
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You understand nothing.....Best STFU and look the fool, than open your yap and remove all doubt, sock-o.
Don't get so flustered.

I merely note that I trust women to make sound personal decisions for themselves in consultation with any loved ones and spiritual and medical advisers they trust over bureaucrats and politicians intruding and imposing their impersonal demands upon them.

If you prefer the statist approach, that is your right.
 
Don't get so flustered.

I merely note that I trust women to make sound personal decisions for themselves in consultation with any loved ones and spiritual and medical advisers they trust over bureaucrats and politicians intruding and imposing their impersonal demands upon them.

If you prefer the statist approach, that is your right.
I'm not flustered and you still know fucking nothing.....You don't need to keep blabbering on to prove it, sock-o.
 
Just like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. They MUST have democratically controlled elections to choose their representatives, right? And the 'workers' party represents the workers....

And it would not matter anyway, he directly refutes the contention that the OP demands he makes.
I have no clue how Korea keeps their republic, we aren't a democratic country is that is what you wish to imply, but we are a federal republic and a representative democracy. Does that exist in NK? I do understand that you want xiden to be authoritarian as Kim Jun I get it.
 
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While I'm a pragmatist, I recognize the Libertarian philosophy:

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There is no abortion law in Canada where statists have failed to impose politicians and bureaucrats concerning the right of citizens to make such personal decisions.​
 
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Is that true, dblack?

Do you believe that libertarian ideals are closely related to Marxist ideals? Are you a Chomskite?

I mean, I get the concept of a stateless society, and "communism" as defined by Marx tends to meet that end, but all that requires extreme violations of individual liberty that NO person claiming to be a libertarian could ever justify.

Right?
 
There are those who claim that Marxist totalitarianism is a form of Libertarianism, some here on USMB. I guess the twisted logic is that Marxism frees people from freedom and creates an Orwellian "Slavery is Freedom" dichotomy.

The root of this nonsense comes from radical Marxist Noam Chomsky. Chomsky is a linguist who rose to prominence by building a cult following to his brand of Stalinism, which some, including Lew Rockwell decided was "libertarian." Rockwell gave Chomsky a platform among legitimate libertarian thought.

Yesterday, Chomsky once again showed his contempt for liberty and individualism with this statement;

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“People who refuse to accept vaccines, I think the right response for them is not to force them to, but rather to insist that they be isolated. If people decide, ‘I am willing to be a danger to the community by refusing to vaccinate,’ they should say then, ‘Well, I also have the decency to isolate myself. I don’t want a vaccine, but I don’t have the right to run around harming people.’ That should be a convention,” said Chomsky.

“Enforcing is a different question. It should be understood, and we should try to get it to be understood. If it really reaches the point where they are severely endangering people, then of course you have to do something about it,”}


Most so called libertarians on this forum are the biggest statist authoritatian boot lickers on here. You know who I'm talking about.
 
That would be "immoral"...."Amoral" means that you don't hold any judgement on anyone's non-aggressive behavior.

Demoncrats are among the most moralizing people around, and use their perverted notions of "morality" to force others to bend the knee to their endless demands.
I disagree.

They don't really care about what they claim to care about. If they cared about blacks would they dress up like an ape which is extremely racist and throw eggs at a black man like Larry Elder who is running for office?

If they cared about women would they do nothing about Harvey Weinstein for decades knowing what he was all about, or do nothing about Biden after he assaulted a woman?

If they cared about the climate would they live a jet set life, drive SUV's, live in about 10 different mansions scattered around the world cuz they can to heat and cool them? And would they continue to hate on nuclear energy that is carbon free, in fact, the only source of energy that is viable regarding the nations energy needs that is not carbon based?

If they cared about immigrants would they encourage them to make a perilous journey to the border and let them live under a bridge when they got there, if they got there?

If they cared about Covid, would they not wear masks off camera that we see day after day, or would they opt out of taking the vaccine like some in Congress do?

No, they don't care about anything other than power and using whatever pawns they need to, like blacks and women, and global warming, etc., to get that power.

In fact, use any term you like to describe them. Hell, make up terms to describe them.
 
No libertarian supports Govt mandated shots or any sort of gun control.
There is a good distinction that’s already been made on this board by another poster. A person can self-identify as anything they want in today’s world with at least 300,000 people backing it. So there is sometimes a stark difference between what people say they are and the definition. In the case of defining, libertarian has several definitions because of political differences. Example: right-leaning and left-leaning liberations have polar opinions with respect to citizen drug use. It gets a little strange (imo) when you learn you are mostly right-leaning, however, you support decriminalizing marijuana but still classified as a right leaning libertarian. IOW, fine details are still eluded by any effort to group label. Individuals will remain individuals at least for the next 20 years.
 
There is a good distinction that’s already been made on this board by another poster. A person can self-identify as anything they want in today’s world with at least 300,000 people backing it. So there is sometimes a stark difference between what people say they are and the definition. In the case of defining, libertarian has several definitions because of political differences. Example: right-leaning and left-leaning liberations have polar opinions with respect to citizen drug use. It gets a little strange (imo) when you learn you are mostly right-leaning, however, you support decriminalizing marijuana but still classified as a right leaning libertarian. IOW, fine details are still eluded by any effort to group label. Individuals will remain individuals at least for the next 20 years.
Many libertarians fell for the lesser-of-two-evils conceit and now support Trump. They know they've abandoned their previous principles, and it gnaws at them, so they attack anyone who reminds them of that fact.
 
Don't get so flustered.

I merely note that I trust women to make sound personal decisions for themselves in consultation with any loved ones and spiritual and medical advisers they trust over bureaucrats and politicians intruding and imposing their impersonal demands upon them.

If you prefer the statist approach, that is your right.
Do you really believe that? They are allowing their daughters to get raped in bathrooms by their other children they allow to be transgendered.
 

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