LA City Council bans N-word at public meetings, triggering legal threats

[bambu.]

See how easy that is, no profanity or offensive language and you still made your point. That's not too much to ask in a public forum, is it?

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"Profanity is the language of the uncouth" - my no1 radio host (now retired).
Who wants to be known as 'uncouth'?

 

[bambu.]

I agree with their ban. You can have freedom of speech, but people have a right to not hear that kind of language in meetings.


You ban it for the same reason you wouldn't want people calling the women c-u-n-t-s and whores during the meeting.

Same vein

Amen.

 

[ThisIsMe]

So then you agree that people do in fact have a right to say those things whether you like it or not. That's all you had to say.

I mean, you can say whatever you want, but if its in a place where someone forbids it, they throw you out.

Sure, i agree to that.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Yes, I responded to you on an open forum. Imagine that. Isn't free speech great like that?

I really don't care what you expect. I don't live my life according to your own personal standards. And yes, I can say whatever I want in someone's home. And they have the right to tell me to leave. But that doesn't change the fact that I can stil say whatever I want.

Are you upset?

 

[OKTexas]

Same reason that I want to use the word "sandwich"

If you want to disagree without being disagreeable, that's you. But if I choose to be disagreeable about it, I don't see why anybody should have the power to stop me.



They can want whatever they want, but they cannot force people to be polite.



Then you need to prove that using the N-word equates disorderly conduct.

Hint: Just because someone uses language you don't like, it doesn't mean they are being disorderly. The way I see it, you simply don't like it when people use racial slurs, so you use a flimsy excuse (aka by calling it disorderly conduct) to shut them up or kick them out. This is a tactic very frequently seen with the Left.





You can ask, but you cannot demand. And if I still want to swear? There shouldn't be any damn thing you can do about it.

Of course they can, Free Speech is not an unlimited right. They can arrest assholes for disturbing the peace, or just throw the bums out of the meeting

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[TemplarKormac]

Of course they can, Free Speech is not an unlimited right. They can arrest assholes for disturbing the peace, or just throw the bums out of the meeting

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Of course, free speech isn't free. You're free to say what you want, but you must pay the toll of whatever consequences come of letting those words slip from your tongue...

 

[MayorQuimby]

Of course they can, Free Speech is not an unlimited right. They can arrest assholes for disturbing the peace, or just throw the bums out of the meeting

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Then you would need to prove that somehow using a word you find offensive is the same as disturbing the peace, sir.

 

[Bootstraps]

Are you upset?

You've come to that conclusion how?

 

[Bootstraps]

I mean, you can say whatever you want, but if its in a place where someone forbids it, they throw you out.

Sure, i agree to that.

Agreed. And if it's a public place, then you just have to deal with whatever is being said because again, no one has a right to not be offended.

 

[MayorQuimby]

I mean, you can say whatever you want, but if its in a place where someone forbids it, they throw you out.

Sure, i agree to that.

If that place is a public place, nobody should have any business forbidding any language.

Of course, free speech isn't free. You're free to say what you want, but you must pay the toll of whatever consequences come of letting those words slip from your tongue...

Why should there be "consequences" for speeches that aren't illegal?

 

[MayorQuimby]

"Profanity is the language of the uncouth" - my no1 radio host (now retired).
Who wants to be known as 'uncouth'?

I don't know; but what I do know, is that it should be a choice.

 

[Independent thinker]

Once again democrats prove they hate free speech. BTW - blacks use that word all the time so obviously it does NOT offend them!

MSN

Blacks are the largest group of people using the N-word. Therefore, this ban is racist against blacks and social injustice.

 

[marvin martian]

Is Nazi a racist slur?

No, because there are Nazis of all colors. Like you.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Why should there be "consequences" for speeches that aren't illegal?

You miss the point.

Every action has a consequence; not all consequences are governed by law. I can insult some guy's mother, but I'm likely to get punched in the mouth for it afterwards.

 

[MayorQuimby]

You miss the point.

Every action has a consequence; not all consequences are governed by law. I can insult some guy's mother, but I'm likely to get punched in the mouth for it afterwards.

And this consequence, aka punching faces, is literally illegal. I am not sure what kind of point you are trying to make. So, I shouldn't exercise my freedom of speech, because some violent criminal might commit a crime against me?

 

[TemplarKormac]

And this consequence, aka punching faces, is literally illegal. I am not sure what kind of point you are trying to make. So, I shouldn't exercise my freedom of speech, because some violent criminal might commit a crime against me?

No, because some loving son wouldn't let you get away with insulting his mother. Most of us call that "defending honor."

Please try to avoid being deliberately obtuse.

 

[MayorQuimby]

No, because some loving son wouldn't let you get away with insulting his mother. Most of us call that "defending honor."

Please try to avoid being deliberately obtuse.

I don't care how much you want to defend your mother's honor. When you punch someone's face, that is a crime.

Maybe you should try to curb your violent criminal tendencies.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I don't care how much you want to defend your mother's honor. When you punch someone's face, that is a crime.

And there are some people who don't care, because they know the jail time is worth it.

It's called the law of unintended consequences. Your speech can lead to direct consequences. Some consequences are legal, and some others aren't. But both have the potential to hurt you.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Maybe you should try to curb your violent criminal tendencies.

Perhaps you should be more imaginative.

Good day.

 

[MayorQuimby]

And there are some people who don't care, because they know the jail time is worth it.

It's called the law of unintended consequences. Your speech can lead to direct consequences. Some consequences are legal, and some others aren't. But both have the potential to hurt you.

Thanks for the advice but is there anything useful in there? No, didn't think so, either.


Like I said, I don't care if I get punched in the face for free speech, because that is a wrong act, it is a crime. Just because people might have to suffer the consequence of a crime against them, it does not mean that freedom of speech should have limits or that it is now OK to curtail it through bullshit laws.

Perhaps you should be more imaginative.

Perhaps you should stop trying to justify the curtailing of free speech.