Kidnapped Israeli Teenagers - A Palestinian View

[Picaro]

fanger, et al,

Well, based on the information in "open source" media, it would seem that the Israeli authorities know quite a bit about what happened. They evidently have the car (Hyundai i35), they evidently have forensic evidence that the murders were committed in the car, and evidence on the identities of at least two suspects by name.

"The two principal terrorist suspects in the kidnapping are Marwan Kawasmeh and Amer Abu Eisheh, members of Hamas in Hebron, who are wanted" by Shin Bet and the army, a statement said."
SOURCE: Some information for this report was provided by AP, AFP and Reuters: Article by Robert Berger June 30, 2014

The United Nations requested that Israel provide evidence to support their contention, but no evidence has been forthcoming, casting doubt on Israel’s claims, particularly in light of its public ire over the recent unification of Palestinian factions and President Obama’s acceptance of the new Palestinian unity.

THE SEARING HYPOCRISY OF THE WEST | Desertpeace

(OBSERVATION)

Watch: Hamas Official Heaps Praise on 'Heroic' Kidnap Operation

Hamas 'political bureau' official Muhammad Nazal, hails abduction of three Israeli teenagers as a 'milestone in the Palestinian struggle'.​

Netanyahu: Mashal made it clear Hamas was committed to fighting Israel

Prime minister addresses Abbas condemnation of kidnapping for the first time, saying if the PA president really means them, he is obligated to end his pact with Hamas.​

Hamas Calls Special Press Conference, Says Nothing Important

Hamas (Hamas senior official, Salah Bardawil) claims they didn’t kidnap the boys, but they praise whoever did.​

(COMMENT)

I would like to make two points:

• POINT #1: Incitement, encouragement and toleration:
  • Organizing, instigating, facilitating, participating in, financing, encouraging or tolerating terrorist activities intended to be committed against other States or their citizens is a violation of A/RES/60/288.
  • Acts, methods, and practices of terrorism are contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations and that knowingly financing, planning and inciting terrorist acts are also contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations; S/RES/1373 (2001).

• POINT #2: Recent Official Statement by HAMAS Senior Officials
  • HAMAS has openly encouraged and openly further incites the Kidnapping and Murder of non-combatants, citizens of the Occupation Force, in direct violation of International Law:
  • It is a direct violation for protected persons to commit an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, or where the protected person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offenses which have caused the death of one or more persons. (Article 68 Geneva Convention IV)
  • 1. Calls upon all States to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to:
    (a) Prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts;
    (b) Prevent such conduct;
    (c) Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credible and relevant information giving serious reasons for considering that they have been guilty of such conduct; [Para 1a, S/RES/1624 (2005)]​
  • 1. For the purpose of this Statute, "crime against humanity" means any of the following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack:
    
    (a) Murder;
    (i) Enforced disappearance of persons;(Article 7 - Crimes against humanity, Rome Statutes)​

There is no question that there are grounds for action. Further, it cannot be the case that the US, or any other nation, could support a Palestinian Unity Government between the PA/FATAH and HAMAS. You cannot be a support HAMAS (terrorist in character) and still provide support under US Law. [18 U.S.C. § 2339A(b)(1) - Providing material support to terrorists] Article 1(3) of Common Position 2001/931/CFSP sets out the meaning of "terrorist act".

√ "Terrorist acts" mean intentional acts which, given their nature or context, may seriously damage a country or international organisation and which are defined as an offence under national law. These include:

• attacks upon a person's life which may cause death;
• attacks upon the physical integrity of a person;
• kidnapping or hostage taking;​

There needs to be open warrant for any and all HAMAS members. HAMAS has unequivocally advocated the use of terrorism against non-combatant. A violation of several principles, laws, and concepts for the maintenance of security and peace. They are all criminals.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed. They are a violent criminal gang, and they were first elected by 'Palestinians' in Gaza, in what most of the 'international observers' claimed at the time was a 'free and fair' election, so these BS claims of 'collective punishment being unfair' are utter nonsense, and always have been.

 

[irosie91]

what means "not a hamas job'"??? Hamas lauded it, Hamas encourages the outright
murder of jews-----including jews living outside of Israel saying it was not a
HAMAS job is like saying------a german soldier who just happens to shoot a jew in
Hungary -------did not act as a Nazi----it was not a NAZI JOB. If the murderers are
found and jailed------HAMAS will repudiate them?-----chances are they will try to get them
released on a hostage ransom

 

[Picaro]

fanger, et al,

Well, based on the information in "open source" media, it would seem that the Israeli authorities know quite a bit about what happened. They evidently have the car (Hyundai i35), they evidently have forensic evidence that the murders were committed in the car, and evidence on the identities of at least two suspects by name.

"The two principal terrorist suspects in the kidnapping are Marwan Kawasmeh and Amer Abu Eisheh, members of Hamas in Hebron, who are wanted" by Shin Bet and the army, a statement said."
SOURCE: Some information for this report was provided by AP, AFP and Reuters: Article by Robert Berger June 30, 2014

THE SEARING HYPOCRISY OF THE WEST | Desertpeace

(OBSERVATION)

Watch: Hamas Official Heaps Praise on 'Heroic' Kidnap Operation

Hamas 'political bureau' official Muhammad Nazal, hails abduction of three Israeli teenagers as a 'milestone in the Palestinian struggle'.​

Netanyahu: Mashal made it clear Hamas was committed to fighting Israel

Prime minister addresses Abbas condemnation of kidnapping for the first time, saying if the PA president really means them, he is obligated to end his pact with Hamas.​

Hamas Calls Special Press Conference, Says Nothing Important

Hamas (Hamas senior official, Salah Bardawil) claims they didn’t kidnap the boys, but they praise whoever did.​

(COMMENT)

I would like to make two points:

• POINT #1: Incitement, encouragement and toleration:
  • Organizing, instigating, facilitating, participating in, financing, encouraging or tolerating terrorist activities intended to be committed against other States or their citizens is a violation of A/RES/60/288.
  • Acts, methods, and practices of terrorism are contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations and that knowingly financing, planning and inciting terrorist acts are also contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations; S/RES/1373 (2001).

• POINT #2: Recent Official Statement by HAMAS Senior Officials
  • HAMAS has openly encouraged and openly further incites the Kidnapping and Murder of non-combatants, citizens of the Occupation Force, in direct violation of International Law:
  • It is a direct violation for protected persons to commit an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, or where the protected person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offenses which have caused the death of one or more persons. (Article 68 Geneva Convention IV)
  • 1. Calls upon all States to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to:
    (a) Prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts;
    (b) Prevent such conduct;
    (c) Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credible and relevant information giving serious reasons for considering that they have been guilty of such conduct; [Para 1a, S/RES/1624 (2005)]​
  • 1. For the purpose of this Statute, "crime against humanity" means any of the following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack:
    
    (a) Murder;
    (i) Enforced disappearance of persons;(Article 7 - Crimes against humanity, Rome Statutes)​

There is no question that there are grounds for action. Further, it cannot be the case that the US, or any other nation, could support a Palestinian Unity Government between the PA/FATAH and HAMAS. You cannot be a support HAMAS (terrorist in character) and still provide support under US Law. [18 U.S.C. § 2339A(b)(1) - Providing material support to terrorists] Article 1(3) of Common Position 2001/931/CFSP sets out the meaning of "terrorist act".

√ "Terrorist acts" mean intentional acts which, given their nature or context, may seriously damage a country or international organisation and which are defined as an offence under national law. These include:

• attacks upon a person's life which may cause death;
• attacks upon the physical integrity of a person;
• kidnapping or hostage taking;​

There needs to be open warrant for any and all HAMAS members. HAMAS has unequivocally advocated the use of terrorism against non-combatant. A violation of several principles, laws, and concepts for the maintenance of security and peace. They are all criminals.

Most Respectfully,
R

This was not a Hamas job.

lollerz. Thanks for the ridiculous comedy posts. Surely you have a YouTube followup?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore; et al,

It doesn't really matter if HAMAS ordered the kidnapping and murder or not.

This was not a Hamas job.

(COMMENT)

My posting focuses on the:

• incitement to commit
• encouraging or tolerating

I consider that HAMAS is guilty of the depraved indifference for the law and the lives.

They have been so wanton, they have been so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, and so blameworthy as to warrant the same criminal liability as that which the law imposes upon the HAMAS members who actually committed the kidnappings and muders.

Depraved indifference focuses on the risk created by the conduct of HAMAS (their advocacy and political support) in its open praise and solidarity for such activity; not the deaths actually resulting.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

fanger, et al,

Well, based on the information in "open source" media, it would seem that the Israeli authorities know quite a bit about what happened. They evidently have the car (Hyundai i35), they evidently have forensic evidence that the murders were committed in the car, and evidence on the identities of at least two suspects by name.

"The two principal terrorist suspects in the kidnapping are Marwan Kawasmeh and Amer Abu Eisheh, members of Hamas in Hebron, who are wanted" by Shin Bet and the army, a statement said."
SOURCE: Some information for this report was provided by AP, AFP and Reuters: Article by Robert Berger June 30, 2014

THE SEARING HYPOCRISY OF THE WEST | Desertpeace

(OBSERVATION)

Watch: Hamas Official Heaps Praise on 'Heroic' Kidnap Operation

Hamas 'political bureau' official Muhammad Nazal, hails abduction of three Israeli teenagers as a 'milestone in the Palestinian struggle'.​

Netanyahu: Mashal made it clear Hamas was committed to fighting Israel

Prime minister addresses Abbas condemnation of kidnapping for the first time, saying if the PA president really means them, he is obligated to end his pact with Hamas.​

Hamas Calls Special Press Conference, Says Nothing Important

Hamas (Hamas senior official, Salah Bardawil) claims they didn’t kidnap the boys, but they praise whoever did.​

(COMMENT)

I would like to make two points:

• POINT #1: Incitement, encouragement and toleration:
  • Organizing, instigating, facilitating, participating in, financing, encouraging or tolerating terrorist activities intended to be committed against other States or their citizens is a violation of A/RES/60/288.
  • Acts, methods, and practices of terrorism are contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations and that knowingly financing, planning and inciting terrorist acts are also contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations; S/RES/1373 (2001).

• POINT #2: Recent Official Statement by HAMAS Senior Officials
  • HAMAS has openly encouraged and openly further incites the Kidnapping and Murder of non-combatants, citizens of the Occupation Force, in direct violation of International Law:
  • It is a direct violation for protected persons to commit an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, or where the protected person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offenses which have caused the death of one or more persons. (Article 68 Geneva Convention IV)
  • 1. Calls upon all States to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to:
    (a) Prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts;
    (b) Prevent such conduct;
    (c) Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credible and relevant information giving serious reasons for considering that they have been guilty of such conduct; [Para 1a, S/RES/1624 (2005)]​
  • 1. For the purpose of this Statute, "crime against humanity" means any of the following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack:
    
    (a) Murder;
    (i) Enforced disappearance of persons;(Article 7 - Crimes against humanity, Rome Statutes)​

There is no question that there are grounds for action. Further, it cannot be the case that the US, or any other nation, could support a Palestinian Unity Government between the PA/FATAH and HAMAS. You cannot be a support HAMAS (terrorist in character) and still provide support under US Law. [18 U.S.C. § 2339A(b)(1) - Providing material support to terrorists] Article 1(3) of Common Position 2001/931/CFSP sets out the meaning of "terrorist act".

√ "Terrorist acts" mean intentional acts which, given their nature or context, may seriously damage a country or international organisation and which are defined as an offence under national law. These include:

• attacks upon a person's life which may cause death;
• attacks upon the physical integrity of a person;
• kidnapping or hostage taking;​

There needs to be open warrant for any and all HAMAS members. HAMAS has unequivocally advocated the use of terrorism against non-combatant. A violation of several principles, laws, and concepts for the maintenance of security and peace. They are all criminals.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed. They are a violent criminal gang, and they were first elected by 'Palestinians' in Gaza, in what most of the 'international observers' claimed at the time was a 'free and fair' election, so these BS claims of 'collective punishment being unfair' are utter nonsense, and always have been.

Not true. They were the elected majority in the Palestinian Authority. That was in the West Bank and Gaza.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore; et al,

It doesn't really matter if HAMAS ordered the kidnapping and murder or not.

This was not a Hamas job.

(COMMENT)

My posting focuses on the:

• incitement to commit
• encouraging or tolerating

I consider that HAMAS is guilty of the depraved indifference for the law and the lives.

They have been so wanton, they have been so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, and so blameworthy as to warrant the same criminal liability as that which the law imposes upon the HAMAS members who actually committed the kidnappings and muders.

Depraved indifference focuses on the risk created by the conduct of HAMAS (their advocacy and political support) in its open praise and solidarity for such activity; not the deaths actually resulting.

Most Respectfully,
R

You need to get off that Israeli propaganda.

That stuff will rot your brain.

 

[Indeependent]

RoccoR,
Don't you know that presenting timely information and historical facts make you a doody head?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore; et al,

I think you had better check!

P F Tinmore; et al,

It doesn't really matter if HAMAS ordered the kidnapping and murder or not.

This was not a Hamas job.

(COMMENT)

My posting focuses on the:

• incitement to commit
• encouraging or tolerating

I consider that HAMAS is guilty of the depraved indifference for the law and the lives.

They have been so wanton, they have been so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, and so blameworthy as to warrant the same criminal liability as that which the law imposes upon the HAMAS members who actually committed the kidnappings and muders.

Depraved indifference focuses on the risk created by the conduct of HAMAS (their advocacy and political support) in its open praise and solidarity for such activity; not the deaths actually resulting.

Most Respectfully,
R

You need to get off that Israeli propaganda.

That stuff will rot your brain.

(COMMENT)

I don't think you will find any such ascertains made in any propaganda (Israeli or otherwise).

Do you deny any of the prima facie evidence (all the essential facts in its case for "depraved indifference") presented in Posting #79?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Roudy]

fanger, et al,

Well, based on the information in "open source" media, it would seem that the Israeli authorities know quite a bit about what happened. They evidently have the car (Hyundai i35), they evidently have forensic evidence that the murders were committed in the car, and evidence on the identities of at least two suspects by name.

"The two principal terrorist suspects in the kidnapping are Marwan Kawasmeh and Amer Abu Eisheh, members of Hamas in Hebron, who are wanted" by Shin Bet and the army, a statement said."
SOURCE: Some information for this report was provided by AP, AFP and Reuters: Article by Robert Berger June 30, 2014

The United Nations requested that Israel provide evidence to support their contention, but no evidence has been forthcoming, casting doubt on Israel’s claims, particularly in light of its public ire over the recent unification of Palestinian factions and President Obama’s acceptance of the new Palestinian unity.

THE SEARING HYPOCRISY OF THE WEST | Desertpeace

(OBSERVATION)

Watch: Hamas Official Heaps Praise on 'Heroic' Kidnap Operation

Hamas 'political bureau' official Muhammad Nazal, hails abduction of three Israeli teenagers as a 'milestone in the Palestinian struggle'.​

Netanyahu: Mashal made it clear Hamas was committed to fighting Israel

Prime minister addresses Abbas condemnation of kidnapping for the first time, saying if the PA president really means them, he is obligated to end his pact with Hamas.​

Hamas Calls Special Press Conference, Says Nothing Important

Hamas (Hamas senior official, Salah Bardawil) claims they didn’t kidnap the boys, but they praise whoever did.​

(COMMENT)

I would like to make two points:

• POINT #1: Incitement, encouragement and toleration:
  
  • Organizing, instigating, facilitating, participating in, financing, encouraging or tolerating terrorist activities intended to be committed against other States or their citizens is a violation of A/RES/60/288.
    
  • Acts, methods, and practices of terrorism are contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations and that knowingly financing, planning and inciting terrorist acts are also contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations; S/RES/1373 (2001).

• POINT #2: Recent Official Statement by HAMAS Senior Officials
  • HAMAS has openly encouraged and openly further incites the Kidnapping and Murder of non-combatants, citizens of the Occupation Force, in direct violation of International Law:
  • It is a direct violation for protected persons to commit an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, or where the protected person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offenses which have caused the death of one or more persons. (Article 68 Geneva Convention IV)
  • 1. Calls upon all States to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to:
    
    (a) Prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts;
    (b) Prevent such conduct;
    (c) Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credible and relevant information giving serious reasons for considering that they have been guilty of such conduct; [Para 1a, S/RES/1624 (2005)]​
  • 1. For the purpose of this Statute, "crime against humanity" means any of the following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack:
    
    
    (a) Murder;
    (i) Enforced disappearance of persons;(Article 7 - Crimes against humanity, Rome Statutes)​

There is no question that there are grounds for action. Further, it cannot be the case that the US, or any other nation, could support a Palestinian Unity Government between the PA/FATAH and HAMAS. You cannot be a support HAMAS (terrorist in character) and still provide support under US Law. [18 U.S.C. § 2339A(b)(1) - Providing material support to terrorists] Article 1(3) of Common Position 2001/931/CFSP sets out the meaning of "terrorist act".

√ "Terrorist acts" mean intentional acts which, given their nature or context, may seriously damage a country or international organisation and which are defined as an offence under national law. These include:

• attacks upon a person's life which may cause death;
• attacks upon the physical integrity of a person;
• kidnapping or hostage taking;​

There needs to be open warrant for any and all HAMAS members. HAMAS has unequivocally advocated the use of terrorism against non-combatant. A violation of several principles, laws, and concepts for the maintenance of security and peace. They are all criminals.

Most Respectfully,
R

Gee you mean that animals associated with the Hamas terrorist organization carried this barbaric act out? I am totally shocked, shocked I tell you.

Now watch the animals moan and groan when Israel drops the hammer on them.

 

[Roudy]

P F Tinmore; et al,

It doesn't really matter if HAMAS ordered the kidnapping and murder or not.

This was not a Hamas job.

(COMMENT)

My posting focuses on the:

• incitement to commit
• encouraging or tolerating

I consider that HAMAS is guilty of the depraved indifference for the law and the lives.

They have been so wanton, they have been so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, and so blameworthy as to warrant the same criminal liability as that which the law imposes upon the HAMAS members who actually committed the kidnappings and muders.

Depraved indifference focuses on the risk created by the conduct of HAMAS (their advocacy and political support) in its open praise and solidarity for such activity; not the deaths actually resulting.

Most Respectfully,
R

You need to get off that Israeli propaganda.

That stuff will rot your brain.

How about you stop spreading Hamas terrorist propaganda all over this board, Mr. Terrorist Spokesperson.

**** Hamas, not one of those savages should be left alive. Israel should put these rabid animals out of their misery once and for all.

 

[Picaro]

Indeed. They are a violent criminal gang, and they were first elected by 'Palestinians' in Gaza, in what most of the 'international observers' claimed at the time was a 'free and fair' election, so these BS claims of 'collective punishment being unfair' are utter nonsense, and always have been.

Not true. They were the elected majority in the Palestinian Authority. That was in the West Bank and Gaza.

lol are you going to try for 'clever' here? ... Do you think people can't read what I said and how your response to my post is inane nonsense? If you're just going to talk to yourself there is no need to quote others posts, you know ...

And, since you don't recognize the existence of 'Palestinians', why claim they have an 'Authority'?

 

[Mojo2]

"Giving back Land" infers that it was taken, was the Land given back to Jordan?
Israel was established in 1948, "You should learn history"

Can you pass the Israel test?

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore; et al,

I think you had better check!

P F Tinmore; et al,

It doesn't really matter if HAMAS ordered the kidnapping and murder or not.


(COMMENT)

My posting focuses on the:

• incitement to commit
• encouraging or tolerating

I consider that HAMAS is guilty of the depraved indifference for the law and the lives.

They have been so wanton, they have been so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, and so blameworthy as to warrant the same criminal liability as that which the law imposes upon the HAMAS members who actually committed the kidnappings and muders.

Depraved indifference focuses on the risk created by the conduct of HAMAS (their advocacy and political support) in its open praise and solidarity for such activity; not the deaths actually resulting.

Most Respectfully,
R

You need to get off that Israeli propaganda.

That stuff will rot your brain.

(COMMENT)

I don't think you will find any such ascertains made in any propaganda (Israeli or otherwise).

Do you deny any of the prima facie evidence (all the essential facts in its case for "depraved indifference") presented in Posting #79?

Most Respectfully,
R

Sure, you have posted a lot of stuff. But other than say so and political opinions you have not shown where any this stuff applies to the Palestinians.

 

[Hossfly]

P F Tinmore; et al,

I think you had better check!

You need to get off that Israeli propaganda.

That stuff will rot your brain.

(COMMENT)

I don't think you will find any such ascertains made in any propaganda (Israeli or otherwise).

Do you deny any of the prima facie evidence (all the essential facts in its case for "depraved indifference") presented in Posting #79?

Most Respectfully,
R

Sure, you have posted a lot of stuff. But other than say so and political opinions you have not shown where any this stuff applies to the Palestinians.

Tinmore, a lot of people are praying for you to get some sense.

 

[Billo_Really]

Did you or did you not reply to a post asking for evidence of your claim that Israel was using gas to kill the Palestinians with just like the Nazis.

Did you or did you not reply with a video of the IDF using non lethal tear gas to disperse a crowd and state "here you are" in your answering post.

The only point I have made is they you are a LYING POS JEW HATING NAZI ANTI SEMITIC TERRORIST SUPPORTING SCUMBAG

GOT IT !

My point was the Israeli's use gas to, not they use gas like the Nazis.

That's just what you and Toasty keep trying to spin it in to.

 

[RoccoR]

Phoenall, et al,

Don't let him get to you.

Did you or did you not reply to a post asking for evidence of your claim that Israel was using gas to kill the Palestinians with just like the Nazis.

Did you or did you not reply with a video of the IDF using non lethal tear gas to disperse a crowd and state "here you are" in your answering post.

The only point I have made is they you are a LYING POS JEW HATING NAZI ANTI SEMITIC TERRORIST SUPPORTING SCUMBAG

GOT IT !

My point was the Israeli's use gas to, not they use gas like the Nazis.

That's just what you and Toasty keep trying to spin it in to.

(COMMENT)

Our friend is trying to play games with the word "gas." He probably doesn't understand that the dozen or so riot control agents, including CN and CS, are non-lethal crystalline chemical sprays; and not really a "gas" at all.

They are usually released in the form of a liquid spray (aerosol), or as a particulate either in smoke or as a vapor. It can be released in near colorless mist, but is more commonly seen in the white crystalline solid form. Sometimes, depending on the humidity, it can initially appear as blue-white cloud at point of release. Slang name for CS and CN is "Tear gas" --- but is actually powder riding some similar medium; not a gas.

It is not illegal to use as a riot control agent.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Billo_Really]

Phoenall, et al,

Don't let him get to you.

Our friend is trying to play games with the word "gas." He probably doesn't understand that the dozen or so riot control agents, including CN and CS, are non-lethal crystalline chemical sprays; and not really a "gas" at all.

They are usually released in the form of a liquid spray (aerosol), or as a particulate either in smoke or as a vapor. It can be released in near colorless mist, but is more commonly seen in the white crystalline solid form. Sometimes, depending on the humidity, it can initially appear as blue-white cloud at point of release. Slang name for CS and CN is "Tear gas" --- but is actually powder riding some similar medium; not a gas.

It is not illegal to use as a riot control agent.

Most Respectfully,
R

Don't let me get to him? Listen dude, I don't play games.

What do you call the tear gas that looks like "smoke"?

Is it legal to shoot a canister at an international journalist while they are trying to give a report on TV?




Are you actually trying to defend this shit?


One more thing, it is not legal to shoot tear gas at peaceful protestors.

 

[MHunterB]

Not only is it a powder, but it's heat-activated. When the husband came home from an 'NBC' session - I made sure I washed his BDU's in cold water, and did NOT put them in the dryer just in case anything remained. Usually, I just washed 'em twice......

 

[Billo_Really]

Not only is it a powder, but it's heat-activated. When the husband came home from an 'NBC' session - I made sure I washed his BDU's in cold water, and did NOT put them in the dryer just in case anything remained. Usually, I just washed 'em twice......

So you're saying it's okay to shoot them at anyone you feel like?

 

[MHunterB]

How do we know those people were 'journalists'? I saw nothing to identify them as such - no station logo, nothing like that.

And how do we know WHY the soldiers were telling them to leave the area? Do we have the soldiers on the video explaining what's going on?