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[hobelim]

And there's your admission that you are in a corner you that cannot get out of. Don't think it escaped notice that you did not address what I quoted from Scripture. Tell us, why would the Jews gather to mourn Lazarus doing a Pharisaical procedure and say that he was actually sick when he wasn't? You didn't deal with that.

No one gathered to morn Lazarus except if like mourning a loved one that was "beguiled" by trumpism. Effectively dead. Dead to the truth, dead to themselves, and dead to others.

His brain defiled and contaminated, eyes gouged out by demons, like you fathful schnooks.

 

[hobelim]

The OT was men seeking God. Lot's of Jewish embellishment. The NT was God seeking men. No embellishment at all.

Thats just superstitious nonsense. You understand neither scripture nor the power of God.

You are a very stupid man.

 

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Thats just superstitious nonsense. You understand neither scripture nor the power of God.

You are a very stupid man.

Can you name anything in the OT that was a supernatural act?

 

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No one gathered to morn Lazarus except if it was mourning a loved one that was beguiled by trumpism. Effectively dead. Dead to the truth, dead to themselves, and dead to others.

Just like you two numbskulls.

The NT makes a concerted effort to show Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead was an historical event.

The New Testament makes a deliberate, concerted effort in the Gospel of John to present the raising of Lazarus as a verifiable historical event. This is achieved through specific narrative and historical devices, rather than being framed as a vague myth or spiritual allegory. [1, 2]

The intentional effort to ground this miracle in history can be seen in several ways:

• Geographic Specificity: The text anchors the event in exact, testable geography. Bethany is located precisely "about two miles" from Jerusalem, making it a public location where early Christians and skeptics could easily verify the story. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
• The "Four-Day" Detail: In John 11, Jesus delays his arrival until Lazarus has been dead for four days. In first-century Jewish belief, it was thought that the soul departed the body entirely after three days of decay, preventing any claims of a misunderstood coma. By emphasizing the four-day delay, the text stresses that this was a permanent, irreversible death. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
• Public Witness and Hostile Reaction: The text claims the miracle was witnessed by both followers and detractors. It states that the chief priests and Pharisees convened a formal council (the Sanhedrin) directly in response to the historical reality of the event, plotting to kill both Jesus and Lazarus because the resurrection was so publicly undeniable. [1, 2]
• Concrete Aftermath: The narrative asserts that the reality of a physically resurrected Lazarus caused a swell of crowds and belief during Jesus’ final entry into Jerusalem. The author also includes mundane, sensory details (e.g., Lazarus coming out tied in grave clothes, Jesus commanding people to "untie him") to emphasize the physical reality of the man.

 

[hobelim]

The NT makes a concerted effort to show Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead was an historical event.

The Tale of a Puppet makes a concerted effort to show that Pinocchio became a real boy.

Can I get a hee haw? An oink oink? A moo moo? A quack quack? An ooh ooh ahh ahh?

 

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The Tale of a Puppet makes a concerted effort to show that Pinocchio became a real boy.

Can I get a hee haw? An oink oink? A moo moo? A quack quack? An ooh ooh ahh ahh?

The tale of Pinocchio is a fictional Italian fairy tale about a wooden puppet seeking to become a real boy, the Gospels are historical and theological accounts of the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The OT is filled with Jewish embellishments. The NT is not.

 

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The Tale of a Puppet makes a concerted effort to show that Pinocchio became a real boy.

Can I get a hee haw? An oink oink? A moo moo? A quack quack? An ooh ooh ahh ahh?

Can you name anything in the OT that was a supernatural act? Or is it all just Jewish embellishment?

The OT is men seeking God. The NT is God seeking men.

 

[hobelim]

Can you name anything in the OT that was a supernatural act?

Absolutely!

 

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Absolutely!

Then do it.

 

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Absolutely!

I bet you can't name one single thing in the OT that you believe was a supernatural act of God.

 

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^^^^ding winning that bet.

 

[hadit]

No one gathered to morn Lazarus except if like mourning a loved one that was "beguiled" by trumpism. Effectively dead. Dead to the truth, dead to themselves, and dead to others.

His brain defiled and contaminated, eyes gouged out by demons, like you fathful schnooks.

Where is your evidence that the Jews of the day were mourning Lazarus losing his faith in Jesus? My evidence is the plain text of the Scripture. Thus far, you have only made assertions with no evidence whatsoever. It is no more convincing than me re-interpreting Shakespeare to really be Star Wars.

 

[hadit]

The Tale of a Puppet makes a concerted effort to show that Pinocchio became a real boy.

Can I get a hee haw? An oink oink? A moo moo? A quack quack? An ooh ooh ahh ahh?

And this is what you do when you find yourself in a corner that you can't exit. You get unbalanced.

 

[BreezeWood]

I bet you can't name one single thing in the OT that you believe was a supernatural act of God.

are you kidding -

* clue - who you are talking to is not god ...

just ask your local burning bush if they are god too or just spontaneously self igniting.

 

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are you kidding -

* clue - who you are talking to is not god ...

just ask your local burning bush if they are god too or just spontaneously self igniting.

I'm not kidding. Not only is hobelim not God, hobelim isn't good either.

I doubt you believe anything supernatural happened in the OT either. So what I am saying should make you happy.

 

[BreezeWood]

I'm not kidding. Not only is hobelim not God, hobelim isn't good either.

I doubt you believe anything supernatural happened in the OT either. So what I am saying should make you happy.

you really seem to have lost your mind - nothing new for a texas desert dweller, happens there on a daily basis.

 

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you really seem to have lost your mind - nothing new for a texas desert dweller, happens there on a daily basis.

How so? At this point you have neither confirmed or denied it.

 

[hobelim]

Can you name anything in the OT that was a supernatural act?

Sure.

When an aggressive crowd of violent men surrounded Lot's house demanding he hand over his angelic guests, Lot went outside to plead with them, closing the door behind him. Refusing to back down, the mob attempted to break the door down. The angels inside quickly reached out, pulled Lot back into the house, and locked the door. They then supernaturally struck the entire crowd outside—both young and old—with blindness. Despite losing their sight, the men of Sodom were so consumed by their rage and perversion that they kept groping around to find the door until they wore themselves out.

So there it is. The crowd was struck with blindness (which has nothing to do with vision). Just like you died in the very first day you first started blubbering on your knees to a Roman trinity decades ago (which has nothing whatever to do with biological death) which in both cases is clear evidence of the supernatural. You understand neither scripture nor the power of God.

Even as you blindly grope around in a perverted rage searching in vain for the locked door.


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[hobelim]

And this is what you do when you find yourself in a corner that you can't exit. You get unbalanced.

Unbalanced?

Pssst! I was poking fun at you and ding. Even with eyeballs you were blind to that too! lol

 

[hobelim]

I'm not kidding. Not only is hobelim not God, hobelim isn't good either.

Yeah I know! Who wouldn't love a trinity that became a baby boy who became a human sacrifice and died just for your sins so you can remain oblivious for life and sin with impunity while you get fleeced and shafted by demons for every day of your life rotting in Gehenna.