Zone1 Just a nonconfrontational discussion.

[1srelluc]

Elaborate? What specific policies or promises has he made to garner religious focused support?

Can't say, ask the religious folks.

 

[BULLDOG]

so harris wouldnt have picked Supreme Court Justices who were closer to her agenda?....

Of course every president will pick Supreme Court Justices that fit their agenda. In this case, the choice can be seen as supportive of the Christian community, and in return, a reason for them to support trump. That's the purpose of the thread, to find all the reasons Christians support trump so strongly.

 

[Votto]

If you’ve read my posts, my opinion of trump should be quite obvious. However, the voters have spoken. My opinion is in the minority. A large part of trump’s support is from Christians/ evangelicals.

I don’t understand that but I would like to. Obviously, Democrats are doing something wrong. Here is your chance to say what that is. Not so long ago, Bill Clinton’s affair with an aid had the Christian community in an uproar. It was often said that our leaders had to have high moral standards, and Clinton’s affair was just not acceptable. The right claimed moral superiority. They even called themselves the Moral majority. However, trump’s multiple dalliances and ethical standards don’t seem to be a problem. It’s not my intention to argue why I don’t think trump is moral enough to deserve support. I just want to understand why so many religious people think he is. What has he done for the religious community to deserve such overwhelming support? I could start a confrontational name calling thread another time. This isn't the place for that. Keep it civil

If you have to be told, odds are the truth will not register.

 

[there4eyeM]

The two party dictatorship determines that the nation choose one or the other of the candidates it imposes. Thus, each cycle essentially revolves around which gets the more votes against. We will see things more clearly once the electorate grows up and demands more diversity, more nuance.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/index.html

Hasn't sought forgiveness! From who? Satanic democrats? It's over. Arguing about Trump's religion and spirituality is over. Democrats are now the hot air party.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I will pipe in and say that most Christians vote Republican.
Most non-christians vote Democrat.
However, I got a feeling that there's a lot more non-christians in this country than Christians. Seems like there's a lot more people in walmarts, football stadiums, and their own homes on Sundays than in churches.
And as for immorality, it exists on both sides.
So I will kindly debunk your synopsis that Trump won due to the evangelical vote.
I believe Trump won for 3 reasons:
1. The economy.
2. The border crisis.
3. The Democrats ran the wrong candidate.
The Biden/Harris administration was simply incompetent and disconnected. Both sides knew this. The American people knew it. It started with the mismanaged pullout of Afghanistan, and never really recovered.
IMO, if the Democrats had chosen a candidate that was not directly connected with Biden/Harris, they would had a much stronger showing vs Trump.
Cheers.

I agree with you. The GOP voted its feelings on those issues, and feelings are so hard to poll.

Dems must tamp down the progrs as well.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That's not why he won though. He won because of crossover votes from Democrats. Which is exactly how he won in 2016. Trump is in the office because of Democrats.

He won because many Dem Biden voters refusing to vote for Harris but refusting to vote for Trump, as well.

 

[ding]

I never called anyone a hypocrite. I just don't understand the dichotomy and ask for an explanation.

You insinuated it in the OP.

Bill Clinton’s affair with an aid had the Christian community in an uproar. It was often said that our leaders had to have high moral standards, and Clinton’s affair was just not acceptable. The right claimed moral superiority. They even called themselves the Moral majority. However, trump’s multiple dalliances and ethical standards don’t seem to be a problem.

 

[ding]

Evangelicals were a large part of his support. You are certainly allowed to have another opinion. I'm asking why he deserved his religious based support.

But it was crossover Democrats that made the difference in the outcome. So I suspect it was the same issues that made Democrats cross over and vote for Trump. Maybe read what was said in the exit poles.

 

[ding]

Didn't say he did. I understood a poster to say he would prevent the destruction. I asked how.

The question I answered of yours was what specifically has trump done to prevent the destruction of religion.

He doesn't have to do anything to stop the destruction of religion to satisfy them. He only needs to not do what the Democrats have done.

 

[ding]

What specifically is trump doing to prevent the redefinition of the nuclear family?

Again... he only needs to not do what the Democrats were doing.

 

[ding]

He won because many Dem Biden voters refusing to vote for Harris but refusting to vote for Trump, as well.

So less Democratic turnout?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

If you’ve read my posts, my opinion of trump should be quite obvious. However, the voters have spoken. My opinion is in the minority. A large part of trump’s support is from Christians/ evangelicals.

I don’t understand that but I would like to. Obviously, Democrats are doing something wrong. Here is your chance to say what that is. Not so long ago, Bill Clinton’s affair with an aid had the Christian community in an uproar. It was often said that our leaders had to have high moral standards, and Clinton’s affair was just not acceptable. The right claimed moral superiority. They even called themselves the Moral majority. However, trump’s multiple dalliances and ethical standards don’t seem to be a problem. It’s not my intention to argue why I don’t think trump is moral enough to deserve support. I just want to understand why so many religious people think he is. What has he done for the religious community to deserve such overwhelming support? I could start a confrontational name calling thread another time. This isn't the place for that. Keep it civil

I liked Clinton. Didn’t care what he did in the bedroom. My first election was 2000 and I voted for Gore. The issue is if Clinton ran today he would run as a Republican. The Democratic Party moved too far left and the extreme of that party runs it. Listen to a podcast with Ana Kasparian and Jillian Michaels. It’s described well there.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Considering those Christians who voted for Trump.

 

[ding]

It looks like the old adage that laughing leads to crying has come true.

 

[BULLDOG]

You insinuated it in the OP.

I stated facts. Sorry if you feel insulted by that.

 

[ding]

I stated facts. Sorry if you feel insulted by that.

So you are agreeing with me that you were accusing them of being hypocrites?

Because earlier you said you didn't. Maybe pick a lane.

 

[BULLDOG]

So you are agreeing with me that you were accusing them of being hypocrites?

Because earlier you said you didn't. Maybe pick a lane.

Not my fault if the facts expose hypocritical behavior.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Considering those Christians who voted for Trump.

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Jesus never advocated that government do a blessed thing for the poor.

Nor did he advocate open borders. He said WTTE "leave government to government and God to God."

 

[Seymour Flops]

Joe Biden was accused of rape with equal credibility - objectively speaking - as the way Trump was accused of rape.

The difference is that there was no orchastrated lawfare against Joe Biden.

Also, the records of her original complaint were stashed with friends of Joes'.