Zone1 Just a nonconfrontational discussion.

[BULLDOG]

He's not a Democrat. He doesn't have to do anything to stop it. He just can't continue with that trajectory as it is perceived that the Democrats will continue down that path.

Didn't say he did. I understood a poster to say he would prevent the destruction. I asked how.

 

[BULLDOG]

I have posted multiple times I support an abortion LIMIT on fetal age at 12 weeks since that is the age that most fetuses first exhibit a heartbeat which I view as the beginning of a living human being. Beyong 12 weeks there must be special circumstances such is the PHYSICAL not mental health of the Mother, rape or incest.

Thank you. I generally don't keep up with everything everybody says. Sorry I didn't remember your remarks.

 

[BULLDOG]

They want to redefine ALL of God's standards.

Male
Female
Marriage
Etc.

What is trump doing to prevent redefinition?

 

[MarathonMike]

Thank you. I generally don't keep up with everything everybody says. Sorry I didn't remember your remarks.

Fair enough.

 

[BULLDOG]

"The right claimed moral superiority. They even called themselves the Moral majority."

The 'right' never claimed moral superiority.
The 'left' put that label on the 'right' in order to mock them.

The initial premise is incorrect.

Moral Majority - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[BULLDOG]

The whole progressive attack on nuclear families and any traditional sense of values stated by others.

Those are all reasons given to vote against Harris. They aren't a specific policy or claim that trump has made that deserves religious base support.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Why do you think he repented. Has he ever said he repented, or anything like that?

His behavior is pretty subdued. Or perhaps he's just old. Whichever it is. I'm glad of it.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

And what specifically has trump done to prevent the destruction of religion?

One thing he did. He appointed justices to the Supreme Court to restore the constitution regarding abortion.

 

[BULLDOG]

You also asked in the OP, what are Democrats doing wrong? I think your trying to control the subject matter too much. Remeber, its a non- confrontational discussion.

You are correct. I went back and checked my poorly stated sentence and saw I invited discussion of what Democrats are doing wrong. It was an inadvertent mistake, but the printed word can't be denied. I'm sorry.

 

[DukeU]

What is trump doing to prevent redefinition?

Defeating democrats.

 

[BULLDOG]

He's not a Democrat. He doesn't have to do anything to stop it. He just can't continue with that trajectory as it is perceived that the Democrats will continue down that path.

I tried to IM you, but you limit who can do that. I went back an reread my poorly worded OP and realize I also requested information on what democrats are doing wrong. Doesn't matter what I intended. It's the words on the page that count. I was wrong and unfair to chastise you. I offer you my sincere apology. It's embarrassing and I hate being wrong but will always admit it when I'm shown.

 

[westwall]

Belief that Democrats demand the family and religion be destroyed. Something more to add to the list. Thank you

Ummm, it's pretty obvious. Just look at their actions. Obummer tried to force the catholic nun organization to distribute birth control in violation of their beliefs.

During covid you could go to a bar but you couldn't go to church.

The assault on religion is very real. You choose to ignore it because you approve of it.

And you're a Marxist

 

[martybegan]

Those are all reasons given to vote against Harris. They aren't a specific policy or claim that trump has made that deserves religious base support.

He won't mess with them. That's enough for them. Dems support cultural policies that are directly against their interests.

 

[BULLDOG]

His behavior is pretty subdued. Or perhaps he's just old. Whichever it is. I'm glad of it.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/index.html

 

[Yarddog]

https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/index.html

Trump has never sought forgiveness? Well thing is, Evangelicals are not GOD.
Does he need to seek their forgiviness? Are you trying to imply that Trump does not deserve Evangelical votes because he is a very flawed man?

Fact is that doesnt matter if his policies have a better effect on things that they value than the Kamala Presidency. Lets ask you this. There is something like 300K children missing who were brought through our southern border. many of them are being trafficked. This is something that was greatly caused or dramatically increased by the Biden/ Harris border policy of being extremely lax and for the longest time denying there was even a problem. Do you think Kamala has ever asked for forgiveness? DO you think she even admits there was a problem? In a recent Q @ Answer session I remember her being asked what mistakes she has made.. and she just had nothing! she also couldnt answer the question of what she would do differently from Biden.

 

[Orangecat]

Obviously, Democrats are doing something wrong. Here is your chance to say what that is.

They’ve allowed themselves to be ruled by hatred instead of logic.

 

[buttercup]

It’s not my intention to argue why I don’t think trump is moral enough to deserve support. I just want to understand why so many religious people think he is. What has he done for the religious community to deserve such overwhelming support? I could start a confrontational name calling thread another time. This isn't the place for that. Keep it civil

I'm late to this thread, but I'll bite. haha. I think there are a few reasons. There might be many Christians who really do like him a lot, and truly think he's going to save the US. But I think there are also many Christians who simply felt like they had no choice, because - as always - people feel they have to vote for whoever ends up being the candidate, simply to keep out the bigger evil (the other side) from winning. I've said this many times before, but I don't play that game. But I don't want to explain all the reasons why and get off track here.

But also, the bible says that in the latter days, there's going to be a lot of deception. I believe that the closer we get to the end of this age, the more deception there's going to be. I think this would apply to the Christians in that first category I mentioned at the beginning of this post. I don't want to ruffle feathers here and offend anyone... but I part ways with most of my fellow Christians on this site as someone who is not a Trump supporter and never was. I explained some of my reasons in this post on another thread a little while ago, if you want to read it.

Another reason might be that many people (Christians and non-Christians alike) are just so busy these days, they have don't have the time to dig deeper when it comes to politics, and do more in-depth research that could end up changing their mind about certain politicians. So when someone comes along who is likeable, says the right things, and portrays themself as someone who genuinely cares about the US, that candidate sure is a better choice in people's minds than someone is for things like abortion, transgenderism and other things that Christians don't agree with... So, if that voter didn't have the time to dig deeper, they'll vote for who they feel is the better choice. I think the whole thing is a scam, I think it's by design that every four years we have to choose between two candidates who (in my view) are both bad choices. But when people feel like they have no choice, they do what they feel they have to do. Again, I don't agree with that, but I don't want to keep rambling here and make this post too long, so I'll leave it at that.

 

[SweetSue92]

If you’ve read my posts, my opinion of trump should be quite obvious. However, the voters have spoken. My opinion is in the minority. A large part of trump’s support is from Christians/ evangelicals.

I don’t understand that but I would like to. Obviously, Democrats are doing something wrong. Here is your chance to say what that is. Not so long ago, Bill Clinton’s affair with an aid had the Christian community in an uproar. It was often said that our leaders had to have high moral standards, and Clinton’s affair was just not acceptable. The right claimed moral superiority. They even called themselves the Moral majority. However, trump’s multiple dalliances and ethical standards don’t seem to be a problem. It’s not my intention to argue why I don’t think trump is moral enough to deserve support. I just want to understand why so many religious people think he is. What has he done for the religious community to deserve such overwhelming support? I could start a confrontational name calling thread another time. This isn't the place for that. Keep it civil

Hiring a guy who has cheated on his wife in the past and talks crudely about women is one thing.

Hiring a guy who has sex IN HIS OFFICE

WITH AN INTERN

MUCH YOUNGER THAN HIM

Is something entirely different.

Anyone not infected with TDS understands this difference. The former starts all kinds of rumors. The latter gets you fired, and possibly sued.

Last. Since Jesus Christ is not on the ballot, we have to settle for sinners, don't we? Interesting that the Puritans are now Democrats. Which honestly--is your entire problem. Good luck with that.

 

[Harry Dresden]

We all know he hand-picked Supreme Court Justices who would guarantee to end Roe v Wade. I can see how that is a big checkmark in his column. What else?

so harris wouldnt have picked Supreme Court Justices who were closer to her agenda?....

 

[westwall]

so harris wouldnt have picked Supreme Court Justices who were closer to her agenda?....

Remember when obummer said " elections have consequences", these silly people always seem to forget that.