Zone1 Just a nonconfrontational discussion.

[BULLDOG]

It's now in the hands ofveach states voters. The vast majority of voters are vehemently against a total ban. They just want some restrictions. Extremists want it full blown their way on each side. Can't happen. Compromise is key.

I'm not arguing about where or how abortion laws are enforced, or whether they are good or bad. I merely noted that might be one reason why his supporters voted for him.

 

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I'm not arguing about where or how abortion laws are enforced, or whether they are good or bad. I merely noted that might be one reason why his supporters voted for him.

What did the exit polls say?

 

[Robert W]

If you’ve read my posts, my opinion of trump should be quite obvious. However, the voters have spoken. My opinion is in the minority. A large part of trump’s support is from Christians/ evangelicals.

It is not about religion. Even with Clinton it was not about religion. With Clinton he escaped impeachment. But he was not good for America. And America does not want him back as proven when his wife was also defeated.

 

[Robert W]

I'm not arguing about where or how abortion laws are enforced, or whether they are good or bad. I merely noted that might be one reason why his supporters voted for him.

Trump is not willing to ban abortions. So abortions is not why he won.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It is not about religion. Even with Clinton it was not about religion. With Clinton he escaped impeachment. But he was not good for America. And America does not want him back as proven when his wife was also defeated.

How soon we forget. Clinton, if eligible, would have easily been re-elected to a third term.

 

[Robert W]

How soon we forget. Clinton, if eligible, would have easily been re-elected to a third term.

His wife was like him and she was beaten by Trump. How soon you do forget.

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump is not willing to ban abortions. So abortions is not why he won.

I'm not sure all of his supporters think he wouldn't ban abortions. Either way, Roe V Wade was their target, and trump did cause that to be ended.

 

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I'm not sure all of his supporters think he wouldn't ban abortions. Either way, Roe V Wade was their target, and trump did cause that to be ended.

According to the exit polls abortion was way down the list of voter concerns for either party. Democrats were betting that it would be a big driver in voting and they lost that bet. They miscalculated what was important to the voters.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Not so long ago, Bill Clinton’s affair with an aid had the Christian community in an uproar

He was having a CURRENT affair IN THE WHITE HOUSE. This didn't happen in the PAST. He was a CURRENT adulterer. He still is.

He tried to cover his sins by launching an attack and murdering 86 men women and children. Then there's was Randy Weaver, his murdered wife, son and dog.

Clinton was a monster who never paid for his crimes

 

[BULLDOG]

He was having a CURRENT affair IN THE WHITE HOUSE. This didn't happen in the PAST. He was a CURRENT adulterer. He still is.

He tried to cover his sins by launching an attack and murdering 86 men women and children. Then there's was Randy Weaver, his murdered wife, son and dog.

Clinton was a monster who never paid for his crimes

I will comfortably discuss the immorality of Clinton's affair, but the rest of that crap is just crazy conspiracy theories.

 

[Seymour Flops]

 

[whutTHEYsay]

p100 72. MAGA means going back to St Basil’s religious laws regarding safe legal abortion being denied as a fundamental female human right.

If there were no illiberal Catholics like Saint Ding in America; had they all left prior to he middle of the last century, there would be zero opposition to a woman’s right to choose and all the needless political turmoil that less than half the Catholics in America perpetuate against modern women, nfbw 241231 Vrwbsw01104​

Democrats are doing something wrong.

That depends on saying the white MAGA evangelicals and half of all Trump supporting Catholics just did something right.

The truth being from a rational theist and individual liberty-loving law abiding working class citizen is that MAGA Christian religionists are not doing anything right or good as a political movement and organization by sanctifying the religious cult leader side of Don Trump.

Dems from a positive ssecular American civil religion analysis are doing what’s RIGHT for American working middle class and working poor. Its just that Dems in this last election got voter womped by Ralph Reed’s outreach operation to mobilize eleven million Bible guided evangelical culture war churched voters who did not vote in previous elections in Pa Wi and Mi.

if Ralph Reid got 300,000 church going evangelicals who never voted before to register and vote in those three key swing states Ralph Reid is the demonic soul who put a convicted felon, sex pervert, and Putin admiring degenerate in the White House again. Ralph There’s and his voter flock DID SOMETHING HORRENDOUSLY WRONG TO AMERICA.

Dems need mostly to realize that billionaires are using the power of white Jesus Christ and Holy Bible believing culture war voters within the Republican Party’s white dominated national infrastructure to bend America into becoming their oligarchy or autocracy under stong white male leadership.

Had a couple hundred thousand votes switched in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsins a more decent and competent mixed race woman would be headed toward an inauguration of the first woman president in a couple weeks.

Democrats are doing everything right but just fell short by a couple hundred thousand votes jon three swing states .

 

[whutTHEYsay]

100 72. wstwll

what facts or truth in post nfbw 250103 Sjandz00172. Saint westwall do you disagree with ?????

 

[westwall]

100 72. wstwll

what facts or truth in post nfbw 250103 Sjandz00172. Saint westwall do you disagree with ?????

Your claim that the democrats are doing the right thing.

That is laughable.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

100 75. There are two distinct major church going pools that all politicians fish in for voters. One is predominantly white and Christian; the other is multi-racial and multicultural,

i. westwall xlvi to 18. : I'm not religious so don't ask me. wstwll 240918 Swdorl00046

ii. NotfooledbyW clxxiii to eemojee172 : What facts or truth in post jandz00172 Saint Westwall do you disagree with? nfbw 250103 Vjandz00173

iii. westwall clxxiv to 173 : Your claim that the democrats are doing the right thing. That is laughable. nfbw 250103 Sjandz00174

iv. NotfooledbyW clxxv to 174. . I’m not religious ether Sainwestwall. So from one unreligious American to another I have a question……..

Do you appreciate all the white MAGA evangelical Church going Christians and half of all Trump supporting MAGA Catholics who always loyally vote in the Republican Party coalition as much as I appreciate all the black evangelical church going Christians and half of Biden/Harris supporting Catholics who always loyally vote in the Democrats Party coalition? #nfbw 250103 Vjandz00175