Johnson Admits That Shutdown Is About ACA Premiums

[martybegan]

If the Republicans had a superior plan to ObamaCare, where is it, rubes? Where is it?

You were lied to. It is far past time you wake up to this fact.

You've been hoaxed, and the very people who lied to your cuck faces are telling you everything is the fault of the Democrats.

My god, how much more submissive and gullible are you going to be?!? How much longer?

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You keep calling for a market solution but then run back to universal care as inevitable.

Your ivory tower solution is just that.

To me first fix the illegal situation, which puts strains on the system. Then we can figure out other solutions.

 

[g5000]

He's also seen over the past 9 years what you could get with that and who you would have to deal with to get that.

You guys claim he never learns, and yet years later he is learning.

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Trump has learned nothing new. He knew going in what fools and submissive, credulous rubes you are, and he has exploited you to the max.

Trump is hands-down the stupidest president we have ever had. His one advantage is he is a sociopath who feels no guilt at stealing and grifting from the gullible and weak.

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[struth]

As for "government healthcare" Donald Trump has a long history of calling for universal health care He even put it in his book The America We Deserve:

We must have universal healthcare...I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses...

Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork..



The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans. There are fewer medical lawsuits, less loss of labor to sickness, and lower costs to companies paying for the medical care of their employees. If the program were in place in Massachusetts in 1999 it would have reduced administrative costs by $2.5 million. We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing.



"As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland." - Donald J. Trump, 2015.


Donald Trump on Larry King the first time he ran for President:

I'm quite liberal, and getting much more liberal, on health care and other things. What's the purpose of a country if you're not gonna have defense and health care? If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. So I'm very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal healthcare.

People are entitled to change their views as time goes by.

For example, he was way wrong about Canada....obviously, 30 week wait times just to see a doctor.....the economy in ruins.

Just horrible what's happening there.

 

[Mac-7]

Gee, maybe you should not have fallen for Trump's "repeal and replace Obamacare on Day One" hoax, eh?

Maybe you should be holdling him accountable for that, yeah?

The cost of health insurance and health care has been skyrocketing for DECADES. And the Republican solution was NOTHING, and is still NOTHING. Why are you saying NOTHING?

Remember each year how you assholes posted umpteen topics about increases in health insurance costs while Obama was president?

How come you raging hypocrites made no noise when Trump was president and costs were still skyrocketing and his giant hoax because obvious?

So you can just STFU, dipshit.

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Healthcare costs go up the more government subsidizes it

Providers have no incentive to lower costs when they know government is paying

 

[martybegan]

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Trump has learned nothing new. He knew going in what fools and submissive, credulous rubes you are, and he has exploited you to the max.

Trump is hands-down the stupidest president we have ever had. His one advantage is he is a sociopath who feels no guilt at stealing and grifting from the gullible and weak.

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Sad, pathetic TDS husk of a man.

I pity you.

 

[whitehall]

The question is whether Schumer will admit that "ACA premiums" are really about taxpayer funded health care for persons who are in the U.S. illegally? Everybody knows it so why not up front about the issue?

 

[martybegan]

People are entitled to change their views as time goes by.

For example, he was way wrong about Canada....obviously, 30 week wait times just to see a doctor.....the economy in ruins.

Just horrible what's happening there.

And that was in 2015.

He's got better information now on how fucked up it is.

 

[g5000]

You keep calling for a market solution but then run back to universal care as inevitable.

That's right. This is becaue the Trump party is not interested in a free market solution. They are making too much money from the insurance companies bribing them to keep our system rigged to their advantage.

That is why UHC is inevitable. Because as more and more millions get priced out to the market, and thrown onto government subsidies, the American people will revolt and demand a solution.

As more and more people end up on subsidies, that is already becoming slow-motion UHC.

Since the Trump party doesn't have a solution, and never has, then the Democrats decades-long goal will finally be achieved.

Because of idiots like you.

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Your ivory tower solution is just that.

To me first fix the illegal situation, which puts strains on the system. Then we can figure out other solutions.

My god, it's always the Mexicans and the poor with you morons!

Your propagandists are unbelievable. Literally.

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[g5000]

And that was in 2015.

He's got better information now on how fucked up it is.

Nope.

In fact, I have said many times I would not be the slightest bit suprised if Trump put UHC on the table in his last two years.

And two milliseconds later, you'd be cheering him on.

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[struth]

That's right. This is becaue the Trump party is not interested in a free market solution. They are making too much money from the insurance companies bribing them to keep our system rigged to their advantage.

That is why UHC is inevitable. Because as more and more millions get priced out to the market, and thrown onto government subsidies, the American people will revolt and demand a solution.

As more and more people end up on subsidies, that is already becoming slow-motion UHC.

Since the Trump party doesn't have a solution, and never has, then the Democrats decades-long goal will finally be achieved.

Because of idiots like you.

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My god, it's always the Mexicans and the poor with you morons!

Your propagandists are unbelievable. Literally.

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Weird, cause it's the Dems that have shut the govt down because the GOP won't extend the subs to big insurance set to expire in December.

 

[martybegan]

That's right. This is becaue the Trump party is not interested in a free market solution. They are making too much money from the insurance companies bribing them to keep our system rigged to their advantage.

That is why UHC is inevitable. Because as more and more millions get priced out to the market, and thrown onto government subsidies, the American people will revolt and demand a solution.

As more and more people end up on subsidies, that is already becoming slow-motion UHC.

Since the Trump party doesn't have a solution, and never has, then the Democrats decades-long goal will finally be achieved.

Because of idiots like you.

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My god, it's always the Mexicans and the poor with you morons!

Your propagandists are unbelievable. Literally.

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They aren't all Mexicans, you bigot.

Lessen the stress on the system, lessen the costs, and lessen government at the same time.

But a "Conservative" like you can't deal with that.

Pathetic.

 

[justoffal]

The Dems should let the premiums double, and it would be on Trump's head.

The actuaries have already examined the potential loss of voter support....they know who their affecting and who they're not affecting.

 

[g5000]

Healthcare costs go up the more government subsidizes it

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Nope. Who is telling you these lies?

Per capita health care costs in UHC countries is far cheaper than here.

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[g5000]

How does health spending in the U.S. compare to other countries? - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker

This chart collection examines how U.S. health spending compares to health spending in other similarly large, wealthy OECD countries using the OECD Health Statistics database.

www.healthsystemtracker.org

We're number one! We're number one! We're number one!

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[justoffal]

That's right. This is becaue the Trump party is not interested in a free market solution. They are making too much money from the insurance companies bribing them to keep our system rigged to their advantage.

That is why UHC is inevitable. Because as more and more millions get priced out to the market, and thrown onto government subsidies, the American people will revolt and demand a solution.

As more and more people end up on subsidies, that is already becoming slow-motion UHC.

Since the Trump party doesn't have a solution, and never has, then the Democrats decades-long goal will finally be achieved.

Because of idiots like you.

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My god, it's always the Mexicans and the poor with you morons!

Your propagandists are unbelievable. Literally.

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The problem is not the insurance companies....
It's the providers....

The Nurses Unions alone are responsible for a large segment of the recent price hikes.
The litigation monkeys have driven up the price of malpractice insurance to the point where 50% of the typical Doctor's bill is to pay the usurious premium. These are the same lobbies that pour money into the DNC coffers....

Figure it out....

 

[WEATHER53]

Dems want non citizens to have their healthcare paid for by citizens
Thinkers do not

 

[g5000]

The problem is not the insurance companies....
It's the providers....

The Nurses Unions alone are responsible for a large segment of the recent price hikes.
The litigation monkeys have driven up the price of malpractice insurance to the point where 50% of the typical Doctor's bill is to pay the usurious premium. These are the same lobbies that pour money into the DNC coffers....

Figure it out....

Oh, the tort argument again.

The medical liability system, including "defensive medicine", is responsible for less than 3 percent of health care costs.

Figure it out...

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[Marener]

The employers reacted to the laws as passed that made them make the changes. Sorry, but we all know who to blame, Dem cucks like you.

They took an opportunity to increase shareholder value by slashing benefits knowing you'd blame Obama and not them.

 

[Marener]

Or the opposite happens, the Democrats acquiesce, and they are exposed for being alarmists nuts who play on the emotions of their weak minded constituency. Believe it or not, COVID era subsidies are not required for people to make their payments, many just don’t want to give up the extra stuff they could buy instead of paying for more of their already heavily subsidized health insurance.

If Trump had actually reduced prices like he promised, the higher premiums wouldn't be such a big deal.

 

[Nostra]

Because premiums have still be rising since then, as they have been for DECADES!

Duh.

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Barry Hussein promised they would all go down $2500/year g5000