Johnson Admits That Shutdown Is About ACA Premiums

Maybe the real answer is that life is a lot more expensive to maintain than we ever knew.
It doesn't have to be.

But it will continue to be if we don't hold brazen liars accountable.

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It doesn't have to be.

But it will continue to be if we don't hold brazen liars accountable.

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Well.... Certainly not going to argue with that statement. Good luck finding them though...
 
They took an opportunity to increase shareholder value by slashing benefits knowing you'd blame Obama and not them.

They were forced to move people to high deductible plans because of the penalties on so called "Cadillac" plans.

What is wrong with increasing shareholder value anyway? My 401k relies n share values, as do people's pensions.
 
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Nope. Who is telling you these lies?

Per capita health care costs in UHC countries is far cheaper than here.

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I cant compare foreign countries to the US

My comments apply to America
 
Because premiums have still be rising since then, as they have been for DECADES!

Duh.

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So, we were told that obamadon'tcare was doing just fine with premiums rising as they had been for years, but to go back to that status is catastrophic. That seems a little disingenuous.
 
It's time to scrap the ACA, not subsidize it. It's an irredeemable failure.
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Per capita health care costs in UHC countries is far cheaper than here.

And far worse, unless you believe the very anti-American WHO ratings. The WHO guys would be the first to come to the US for life saving healthcare if given the opportunity.
 
They were forced to move people to high deductible plans because of the penalties on so called "Cadillac" plans.

What is wrong with increasing shareholder value anyway? My 401k relies n share values, as do people's pensions.
High cost insurance plans were never taxed. The tax didn't go into effect until 2020 and were repealed in 2019.

Talking about increasing shareholder value is a bigger conversation. The main point here is that they were able to give their employees (you) less and blame someone else.
 
High cost insurance plans were never taxed. The tax didn't go into effect until 2020 and were repealed in 2019.

Talking about increasing shareholder value is a bigger conversation. The main point here is that they were able to give their employees (you) less and blame someone else.

They were regulated into high deductible plans because of the fear of the tax. That Obamacare relied on it seems to imply it's inherent flaws.

Avoiding the economic conversation like the good little Marxist you are.
 

So the lies that it’s about anything else can stop

Letting the subsidies expire would cause a DOUBLING of premiums
The real issue everyone should be talking about is the failure of 0bamacare. As you recall, we were promised a savings of $2400 a year. Now, $4 trillion later, the premiums have to be subsidized to keep it afloat. As usual, the leftwing lied about this boondoggle. We should be talking about disbanding it, instead.
 
They were forced to move people to high deductible plans because of the penalties on so called "Cadillac" plans.

What is wrong with increasing shareholder value anyway? My 401k relies n share values, as do people's pensions.
Many Congress people are invested in the HC stocks.....should be illegal.
 
They were regulated into high deductible plans because of the fear of the tax. That Obamacare relied on it seems to imply it's inherent flaws.

Avoiding the economic conversation like the good little Marxist you are.
The tax that didn't kick in for 10 years?

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

They cut the costs of their plans because that's good for shareholders.
 
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The government. Lots cheaper than subsidizing all these overpriced insurance plans, and having lower-income people show up at the ER for a sore throat or a little boo-boo.
 
The government. Lots cheaper than subsidizing all these overpriced insurance plans, and having lower-income people show up at the ER for a sore throat or a little boo-boo.
What makes you think it would be cheaper?
 
The tax that didn't kick in for 10 years?

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

They cut the costs of their plans because that's good for shareholders.

That was always hanging over people working on the plans.

Plus, all the other regulations that made the plans too expensive.

Yes because the purpose of government is to make things too expensive to be performed, right?
 
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