Jeb Bush In 1995: Unwed Mothers Should Be Publicly Shamed

[DigitalDrifter]

Free birth control for all liberals and Dimocrats.

 

[martybegan]

Public shaming would be an effective way to regulate the “irresponsible behavior” of unwed mothers, misbehaving teenagers and welfare recipients, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) argued in his 1995 book Profiles in Character.

In a chapter called "The Restoration of Shame,” the likely 2016 presidential candidate made the case that restoring the art of public humiliation could help prevent pregnancies “out of wedlock.”

One of the reasons more young women are giving birth out of wedlock and more young men are walking away from their paternal obligations is that there is no longer a stigma attached to this behavior, no reason to feel shame. Many of these young women and young men look around and see their friends engaged in the same irresponsible conduct. Their parents and neighbors have become ineffective at attaching some sense of ridicule to this behavior. There was a time when neighbors and communities would frown on out of wedlock births and when public condemnation was enough of a stimulus for one to be careful.​

Bush points to Nathaniel Hawthorne's 1850 novel The Scarlet Letter, in which the main character is forced to wear a large red "A" for "adulterer" on her clothes to punish her for having an extramarital affair that produced a child, as an early model for his worldview. "Infamous shotgun weddings and Nathaniel Hawthorne's Scarlet Letter are reminders that public condemnation of irresponsible sexual behavior has strong historical roots,” Bush wrote.

As governor of Florida in 2001, Bush had the opportunity to test his theory on public shaming. He declined to veto a very controversial bill that required single mothers who did not know the identity of the father to publish their sexual histories in a newspaper before they could legally put their babies up for adoption. He later signed a repeal of the so-called "Scarlet Letter" law in 2003 after it was successfully challenged in court.

Bush's ideas about public shaming extended beyond unwed parents. American schools and the welfare system could use a healthy dose of shame as well. “For many, it is more shameful to work than to take public assistance -- that is how backward shame has become!” he wrote, adding that the juvenile criminal justice system also "seems to be lacking in humiliation," he wrote.

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Gee, maybe Jeb would like to bring back Biblical stoning.

It may sound backwards and sexist but the problem of unwed mother's with children growing up in poverty without a father is a huge problem.

I don't t think they should be shamed but it should be discouraged.

Instead we encourage it by subsidizing it and removing any stigma from it.

it's like pouring gasoline on a fire and being shocked that your eyebrows have been singed off.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Would Jeb Bush support a public shaming of women such as his daughter Noelle?

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Lakhota]

Good ole Christian slut shaming.

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[rightwinger]

Shame is a powerful tool for Conservatives...

Unmarried mothers should feel shame
Women getting abortions should feel shame
The poor needing assistance should feel shame

But those who send jobs overseas, gut companies, receive government subsidies should be PROUD of their capitalist windfall

 

[Scorpion]

What's your solution to combatting teen pregnancy?
A friend of my daughter became pregnant at 15.
What did the parents of the children do?
They threw a baby shower with over 100 guests.
What did that teach the teens??
For the record, the parents put the girl on meds that actually stop her periods.
Wonder how healthy that is for a teenager?

 

[Brain357]

Public shaming would be an effective way to regulate the “irresponsible behavior” of unwed mothers, misbehaving teenagers and welfare recipients, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) argued in his 1995 book Profiles in Character.

In a chapter called "The Restoration of Shame,” the likely 2016 presidential candidate made the case that restoring the art of public humiliation could help prevent pregnancies “out of wedlock.”

One of the reasons more young women are giving birth out of wedlock and more young men are walking away from their paternal obligations is that there is no longer a stigma attached to this behavior, no reason to feel shame. Many of these young women and young men look around and see their friends engaged in the same irresponsible conduct. Their parents and neighbors have become ineffective at attaching some sense of ridicule to this behavior. There was a time when neighbors and communities would frown on out of wedlock births and when public condemnation was enough of a stimulus for one to be careful.​

Bush points to Nathaniel Hawthorne's 1850 novel The Scarlet Letter, in which the main character is forced to wear a large red "A" for "adulterer" on her clothes to punish her for having an extramarital affair that produced a child, as an early model for his worldview. "Infamous shotgun weddings and Nathaniel Hawthorne's Scarlet Letter are reminders that public condemnation of irresponsible sexual behavior has strong historical roots,” Bush wrote.

As governor of Florida in 2001, Bush had the opportunity to test his theory on public shaming. He declined to veto a very controversial bill that required single mothers who did not know the identity of the father to publish their sexual histories in a newspaper before they could legally put their babies up for adoption. He later signed a repeal of the so-called "Scarlet Letter" law in 2003 after it was successfully challenged in court.

Bush's ideas about public shaming extended beyond unwed parents. American schools and the welfare system could use a healthy dose of shame as well. “For many, it is more shameful to work than to take public assistance -- that is how backward shame has become!” he wrote, adding that the juvenile criminal justice system also "seems to be lacking in humiliation," he wrote.

More: Jeb Bush In 1995: Unwed Mothers Should Be Publicly Shamed

Gee, maybe Jeb would like to bring back Biblical stoning.

It should be frowned on by society.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Jeb Bush had a somewhat different opinion when it came to the misadventures of his mess of a daughter:

Emails show Jeb Bush told a reporter 'I wish the media would leave my daughter alone' as Noelle dealt with drug arrests

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2947608/Bush-ebook-chapter-details-emails-Florida-eGovernor.html#ixzz3cb33lSOf
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

 

[Scorpion]

Public shaming would be an effective way to regulate the “irresponsible behavior” of unwed mothers, misbehaving teenagers and welfare recipients, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) argued in his 1995 book Profiles in Character.

In a chapter called "The Restoration of Shame,” the likely 2016 presidential candidate made the case that restoring the art of public humiliation could help prevent pregnancies “out of wedlock.”

One of the reasons more young women are giving birth out of wedlock and more young men are walking away from their paternal obligations is that there is no longer a stigma attached to this behavior, no reason to feel shame. Many of these young women and young men look around and see their friends engaged in the same irresponsible conduct. Their parents and neighbors have become ineffective at attaching some sense of ridicule to this behavior. There was a time when neighbors and communities would frown on out of wedlock births and when public condemnation was enough of a stimulus for one to be careful.​

Bush points to Nathaniel Hawthorne's 1850 novel The Scarlet Letter, in which the main character is forced to wear a large red "A" for "adulterer" on her clothes to punish her for having an extramarital affair that produced a child, as an early model for his worldview. "Infamous shotgun weddings and Nathaniel Hawthorne's Scarlet Letter are reminders that public condemnation of irresponsible sexual behavior has strong historical roots,” Bush wrote.

As governor of Florida in 2001, Bush had the opportunity to test his theory on public shaming. He declined to veto a very controversial bill that required single mothers who did not know the identity of the father to publish their sexual histories in a newspaper before they could legally put their babies up for adoption. He later signed a repeal of the so-called "Scarlet Letter" law in 2003 after it was successfully challenged in court.

Bush's ideas about public shaming extended beyond unwed parents. American schools and the welfare system could use a healthy dose of shame as well. “For many, it is more shameful to work than to take public assistance -- that is how backward shame has become!” he wrote, adding that the juvenile criminal justice system also "seems to be lacking in humiliation," he wrote.

More: Jeb Bush In 1995: Unwed Mothers Should Be Publicly Shamed

Gee, maybe Jeb would like to bring back Biblical stoning.

It should be frowned on by society.

It gets rewarded.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I don't recall much conservative support for the idea of publicly shaming Bristol Palin.

 

[Scorpion]

Jeb Bush had a somewhat different opinion when it came to the misadventures of his mess of a daughter:

Emails show Jeb Bush told a reporter 'I wish the media would leave my daughter alone' as Noelle dealt with drug arrests

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2947608/Bush-ebook-chapter-details-emails-Florida-eGovernor.html#ixzz3cb33lSOf
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Was she a juvenile at the time?
Bet Chelsea woulda been left alone.
And drug abuse doesn't kbow political parties or religion.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Sarah Palin said that the bastard child that resulted from her daughter's sinful fornicating

was 'a blessing'.

Now why would you want to shame someone for perpetrating a blessed event?

lol

 

[Brain357]

Sarah Palin said that the bastard child that resulted from her daughter's sinful fornicating

was 'a blessing'.

Now why would you want to shame someone for perpetrating a blessed event?

lol

You can't expect politicians to do as they say. But it still should be frowned on.

 

[Flopper]

Public shaming would be an effective way to regulate the “irresponsible behavior” of unwed mothers, misbehaving teenagers and welfare recipients, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) argued in his 1995 book Profiles in Character.

In a chapter called "The Restoration of Shame,” the likely 2016 presidential candidate made the case that restoring the art of public humiliation could help prevent pregnancies “out of wedlock.”

One of the reasons more young women are giving birth out of wedlock and more young men are walking away from their paternal obligations is that there is no longer a stigma attached to this behavior, no reason to feel shame. Many of these young women and young men look around and see their friends engaged in the same irresponsible conduct. Their parents and neighbors have become ineffective at attaching some sense of ridicule to this behavior. There was a time when neighbors and communities would frown on out of wedlock births and when public condemnation was enough of a stimulus for one to be careful.​

Bush points to Nathaniel Hawthorne's 1850 novel The Scarlet Letter, in which the main character is forced to wear a large red "A" for "adulterer" on her clothes to punish her for having an extramarital affair that produced a child, as an early model for his worldview. "Infamous shotgun weddings and Nathaniel Hawthorne's Scarlet Letter are reminders that public condemnation of irresponsible sexual behavior has strong historical roots,” Bush wrote.

As governor of Florida in 2001, Bush had the opportunity to test his theory on public shaming. He declined to veto a very controversial bill that required single mothers who did not know the identity of the father to publish their sexual histories in a newspaper before they could legally put their babies up for adoption. He later signed a repeal of the so-called "Scarlet Letter" law in 2003 after it was successfully challenged in court.

Bush's ideas about public shaming extended beyond unwed parents. American schools and the welfare system could use a healthy dose of shame as well. “For many, it is more shameful to work than to take public assistance -- that is how backward shame has become!” he wrote, adding that the juvenile criminal justice system also "seems to be lacking in humiliation," he wrote.

More: Jeb Bush In 1995: Unwed Mothers Should Be Publicly Shamed

Gee, maybe Jeb would like to bring back Biblical stoning.

Scarlet Letter legislation should be popular with Evangelicals.

 

[ogibillm]

I don't think anyone should be "shamed." sometimes people have to make the most out of a bad situation, and there's no reason to shame them for that.

still, i cringe when i hear people wearing being a single parent as a badge of honor.

what's jeb's quote should tell us, more than anything, was that he was looking to ride the "moral-majority" and "family values" tide at the time.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't think anyone should be "shamed." sometimes people have to make the most out of a bad situation, and there's no reason to shame them for that.

still, i cringe when i hear people wearing being a single parent as a badge of honor.

what's jeb's quote should tell us, more than anything, was that he was looking to ride the "moral-majority" and "family values" tide at the time.

Why shouldn't being a single parent be a badge of honor?
You stuck by your parental responsibilities....the other person didn't
You have twice the responsibilities of a married couple

 

[Brain357]

I don't think anyone should be "shamed." sometimes people have to make the most out of a bad situation, and there's no reason to shame them for that.

still, i cringe when i hear people wearing being a single parent as a badge of honor.

what's jeb's quote should tell us, more than anything, was that he was looking to ride the "moral-majority" and "family values" tide at the time.

Why shouldn't being a single parent be a badge of honor?
You stuck by your parental responsibilities....the other person didn't
You have twice the responsibilities of a married couple

I think a child should have both parents. You really drop the ball for the kid by getting pregnant without being in a stable relationship.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't think anyone should be "shamed." sometimes people have to make the most out of a bad situation, and there's no reason to shame them for that.

still, i cringe when i hear people wearing being a single parent as a badge of honor.

what's jeb's quote should tell us, more than anything, was that he was looking to ride the "moral-majority" and "family values" tide at the time.

Why shouldn't being a single parent be a badge of honor?
You stuck by your parental responsibilities....the other person didn't
You have twice the responsibilities of a married couple

I think a child should have both parents. You really drop the ball for the kid by getting pregnant without being in a stable relationship.

You have no control over what the other parent does or how he behaves after you get pregnant

That is no reason for you to be shamed