Congress should be fired!

[kyzr]

The Senate may well be 51 or 52 GOP in 2025, which the Party needs, considering the House will be blue by 15 or 20, and the GoP President will be a convicted felon.

How do you figure that the House will be democrat again? It will be close either way with 25 toss-up seats. The GOP should have a +4 advantage, not much, so we'll see how it goes in November.

https://www.270towin.com/2024-house-election/consensus-2024-house-forecast

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Watch!

 

[kyzr]

Watch!

We will be. Like hawks.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Hey, they also wanna give him absolute immunity. He could literally do anything!

He can't add 2 and 2, so your hyperbolic claim is laughable.

His handlers could do anything, which of course is scary.

Now, let's say Trump is in there and we do this.

WHAT THEN ?

 

[HikerGuy83]

The operate on two year contracts. The problem is that people keep electing the same old idiots.

Polls constantly show that people don't like congress (approvals in the teens), but that they seem to really like THEIR congresscritter.

 

[struth]

No, elected representatives are not hired. The represent us.

That's what they are hired to do. That's like saying a cook isn't hired, they cook...what a dumb thing to say....but par for the course for your post

 

[j-mac]

The Senate may well be 51 or 52 GOP in 2025, which the Party needs, considering the House will be blue by 15 or 20, and the GoP President will be a convicted felon.

So, you admit that the GOP will win the WH in Nov. And that they will take the Senate in Nov....I say the GOP increases the house majority as well...But, anyway, it's progress....Glad to see you are slowly waking up...

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That's what they are hired to do. That's like saying a cook isn't hired, they cook...what a dumb thing to say....but par for the course for your post

So mixed, you are. Yoda, aisle three, you fix.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Of course they are hired....they are hired by the people, and paid by the people...and can be fired by the people.

Get a refund on that lobotomy.

fact: Politicians get elected, not hired.

"Notwithstanding the above statutes, elected officials are specifically excluded from the definition of employee in many instances. For example, the federal ADEA definition of "employee" specifically excludes elected officials. (29 USC § 630(f).) Elected officials are also not considered employees under the Brown Act."

https://www.mtsac.edu/president/board-reports/LCW%20Are%20Governing%20Board%20Members%20Employees.pdf

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Haha of course it’s firing.

https://www.mtsac.edu/president/board-reports/LCW%20Are%20Governing%20Board%20Members%20Employees.pdf

 

[there4eyeM]

He can't add 2 and 2, so your hyperbolic claim is laughable.

His handlers could do anything, which of course is scary.

Now, let's say Trump is in there and we do this.

WHAT THEN ?

Somehow, this post reminded me of "W".
This should not be taken in any manner of excusing the current POTUS of the least thing.

 

[Lastamender]

Employees get fired.

They are not employees.

Yes they are, they work for the people. Stupid putz. And everyone of them that voted not to investigate the 2020 election should be out and banned from ever running again.

 

[struth]

Get a refund on that lobotomy.

fact: Politicians get elected, not hired.

"Notwithstanding the above statutes, elected officials are specifically excluded from the definition of employee in many instances. For example, the federal ADEA definition of "employee" specifically excludes elected officials. (29 USC § 630(f).) Elected officials are also not considered employees under the Brown Act."

https://www.mtsac.edu/president/board-reports/LCW%20Are%20Governing%20Board%20Members%20Employees.pdf

Haha yes they excluded themselves from many laws about federal employees

But if you don’t consider your elected officials employees hired to do a job for you…well…that explains your demafacist beliefs

Most freedom loving americans expect their elected officials to do a job for them, and when they fail to deliver fire then or at least attempt to at their review at the ballot box

 

[LeroyDumonde]

No, elected representatives are not hired. The represent us.

Actually they represent their biggest campaign donors and future employers.

 

[Crepitus]

He can't add 2 and 2, so your hyperbolic claim is laughable.

His handlers could do anything, which of course is scary.

Now, let's say Trump is in there and we do this.

WHAT THEN ?

If you give Biden absolute immunity tRump will not be a free man or on any state's ballots.

 

[HikerGuy83]

If you give Biden absolute immunity tRump will not be a free man or on any state's ballots.

Which is why it won't happen.

You didn't address the hypothetical I posited, but that is your MO.

Have a day.

 

[beautress]

Haha of course it’s firing.

If an elected Congressman or Senator commits a serious crime or has earned the hatred of his or her state's people, they can only remove the offending Congressman or Senator from his office with impeachment that costs a King's ransom and can take over a year, and those in the governing body who lead impeachment procedures are frequently never elected to high office again. After all, a majority of voters put that Congressman or Senator in office, who also has a respected family background. I've never seen nor heard of an impeachment that went really really well due to its politically divisive nature.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Let’s delve into the intricacies of impeachment for federal officials, including members of Congress:

1. Impeachment Eligibility:
   • According to the United States Constitution, any civil federal officer may be impeached for “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” This includes not only the President and Vice President but also other officials within the government 12.
   • So, representatives, cabinet members, and even Supreme Court justices fall under this umbrella and can be subject to impeachment proceedings.
2. Historical Practice:
   • While the Constitution explicitly identifies the President and Vice President as impeachable officials, the scope of who qualifies as a civil officer beyond these positions is not precisely delineated.
   • Federal judges have consistently been considered officers subject to impeachment and removal, as most proceedings have applied to those positions.
   • Congress has also impeached the head of a cabinet-level Executive department, indicating a congressional understanding that high-level Executive officers may be subject to impeachment.
   • However, it remains unclear how far down the ranks of the federal bureaucracy this principle extends 1.
3. Former Officials and Impeachment:
   • The question of whether former officials remain subject to trial by the Senate after leaving office has arisen.
   • While historical evidence supports the idea that former officials can be convicted and punished by the Senate for actions taken while in office, the constitutional text does not directly address this issue.
   • Some argue that the impeachment process applies only to officials who are holding office during the proceedings, while others believe it extends to former officials as well 1.
4. Expulsion vs. Impeachment:
   • Technically, members of Congress do not go through impeachment proceedings like the President.
   • Instead, they can be expelled from office through a more simplified process.
   • Expulsion is distinct from impeachment but serves as a means of disciplining members of Congress 3.

In summary, while impeachment is more commonly associated with the Executive Branch, the Constitution allows for the impeachment of various federal officials, including members of Congress, under specific circumstances 14. However, in practice, impeachment of senators and representatives is rare and ambiguous 5.

 

[BluesLegend]

Congress is corrupt, bought and paid for. They cut shad deals in back rooms that screw over Americans.

 

[struth]

If an elected Congressman or Senator commits a serious crime or has earned the hatred of his or her state's people, they can only remove the offending Congressman or Senator from his office with impeachment that costs a King's ransom and can take over a year, and those in the governing body who lead impeachment procedures are frequently never elected to high office again. After all, a majority of voters put that Congressman or Senator in office, who also has a respected family background. I've never seen nor heard of an impeachment that went really really well due to its politically divisive nature.

No they can’t impeach them. The people can vote them out of office.

Impeachment is a process legislatures use to remove judges or executive branch officials.

Congress or state legislatures can expel members, but for the people, they can fire them at the ballot box via elections