It’s Time to Unplug the Hype Over Electric Vehicles

[Wyatt earp]

Great article....




In 1901, the Los Angeles Times declared “The electric automobile will quickly and easily take precedence over all other” types of motor vehicles


In 1911, The New York Times declared that the EV “has long been recognized as the ideal solution” because it “is cleaner and quieter” and “much more economical.”



Furthermore, low- and middle-income Americans are facing significant electric rate increases for grid upgrades to accommodate EVs. Proof of that can be seen by looking, again, at California. Last month, the California Energy Commission estimated the state will need 1.3 million new public EV chargers by 2030. Likely cost to ratepayers: about $13 billion.

Meanwhile, blackouts are almost certain this summer and electricity prices in the state are, as energy analyst Mark Nelson recently put it, “absolutely exploding.” Last year, electricity prices soared by 7.5% and California regulators expect rates to surge another 40% or so by 2030. These cost increases are happening in a state with the highest poverty rate and largest Latino population in America.

It’s Time to Unplug the Hype Over Electric Vehicles

For more than a century, the promise of electric vehicles (EVs) has been parked just beyond the nearest traffic light. In 1901, the Los Angeles Times declared “The electric automobile will quick

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[Votto]

Whether electric cars become a viable and efficient and affordable mode of transportation is unimportant.

What it important is the control the state has over people to force them into various regulations and taxation regarding it as it will be lauded as "doing something" about global warming.

 

[JGalt]

Great article....




In 1901, the Los Angeles Times declared “The electric automobile will quickly and easily take precedence over all other” types of motor vehicles


In 1911, The New York Times declared that the EV “has long been recognized as the ideal solution” because it “is cleaner and quieter” and “much more economical.”



Furthermore, low- and middle-income Americans are facing significant electric rate increases for grid upgrades to accommodate EVs. Proof of that can be seen by looking, again, at California. Last month, the California Energy Commission estimated the state will need 1.3 million new public EV chargers by 2030. Likely cost to ratepayers: about $13 billion.

Meanwhile, blackouts are almost certain this summer and electricity prices in the state are, as energy analyst Mark Nelson recently put it, “absolutely exploding.” Last year, electricity prices soared by 7.5% and California regulators expect rates to surge another 40% or so by 2030. These cost increases are happening in a state with the highest poverty rate and largest Latino population in America.

It’s Time to Unplug the Hype Over Electric Vehicles

For more than a century, the promise of electric vehicles (EVs) has been parked just beyond the nearest traffic light. In 1901, the Los Angeles Times declared “The electric automobile will quick

www.google.com

EV users should be taxed like the rest of us. They cause wear and tear on the roads, but they don't pay gas taxes.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Great article....




In 1901, the Los Angeles Times declared “The electric automobile will quickly and easily take precedence over all other” types of motor vehicles


In 1911, The New York Times declared that the EV “has long been recognized as the ideal solution” because it “is cleaner and quieter” and “much more economical.”



Furthermore, low- and middle-income Americans are facing significant electric rate increases for grid upgrades to accommodate EVs. Proof of that can be seen by looking, again, at California. Last month, the California Energy Commission estimated the state will need 1.3 million new public EV chargers by 2030. Likely cost to ratepayers: about $13 billion.

Meanwhile, blackouts are almost certain this summer and electricity prices in the state are, as energy analyst Mark Nelson recently put it, “absolutely exploding.” Last year, electricity prices soared by 7.5% and California regulators expect rates to surge another 40% or so by 2030. These cost increases are happening in a state with the highest poverty rate and largest Latino population in America.

It’s Time to Unplug the Hype Over Electric Vehicles

For more than a century, the promise of electric vehicles (EVs) has been parked just beyond the nearest traffic light. In 1901, the Los Angeles Times declared “The electric automobile will quick

www.google.com

I love seeing electric costs shoot up in Shit Hole States.....lol

 

[Wyatt earp]

EV users should be taxed like the rest of us. They cause wear and tear on the roads, but they don't pay gas taxes.

Exactly rich people owning EVs are getting a free ride then bragging about the low cost

 

[rightwinger]

EV users should be taxed like the rest of us. They cause wear and tear on the roads, but they don't pay gas taxes.

EVs should pay a mileage tax to compensate for not paying a gas tax

 

[rightwinger]

Whether electric cars become a viable and efficient and affordable mode of transportation is unimportant.

What it important is the control the state has over people to force them into various regulations and taxation regarding it as it will be lauded as "doing something" about global warming.

You guys said the same thing about light bulbs

 

[Votto]

You guys said the same thing about light bulbs

The same can be said about the vaccine. As Covid worsens, the jab will continue to be the focus

It becomes almost a cult, that is, the "solution" that is sold becomes a cult.

Reasoning and evidence then trail behind.

As humans, we have a need to feel in control, even when that may be impossible.

I would compare it to children being told to hide under their desks at school during the Kennedy era, to prepare them for a nuclear bomb.

Naturally, hiding under the desk does nothing, but psychologically it may be beneficial on some level if we perceive we have some control.

 

[rightwinger]

The same can be said about the vaccine. As Covid worsens, the jab will continue to be the focus

It becomes almost a cult, that is, the "solution" that is sold becomes a cult.

Reasoning and evidence then trail behind.

It is the anti-vaxers who are a cult
Reacting to any misinformation and conspiracy theory that comes their way

 

[JGalt]

Exactly rich people owning EVs are getting a free ride then bragging about the low cost

They're not paying their "fare share."

 

[pknopp]

All the whiney complaints because people are making choices you wouldn't make. Do you go off on the guy who orders his burger without pickles if you like pickles also?

 

[White 6]

Exactly rich people owning EVs are getting a free ride then bragging about the low cost

Really good to be able to externalize costs to society for your personal or business operations, is the common mind frame.

 

[Wyatt earp]

All the whiney complaints because people are making choices you wouldn't make. Do you go off on the guy who orders his burger without pickles if you like pickles also?

Do we subsidize his meal?

 

[pknopp]

Do we subsidize his meal?

We subsidize everything.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You guys said the same thing about light bulbs

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Didn't read or comprehend the OP, typical for you, huh?





In 1901, the Los Angeles Times declared “The electric automobile will quickly and easily take precedence over all other” types of motor vehicles

 

[Wyatt earp]

We subsidize everything.

That's your comeback? Kind of embarrassed for you

 

[pknopp]

That's your comeback? Kind of embarrassed for you

You asked and I answered.

USDA Announces $500 Million for Expanded Meat & Poultry Processing Capacity as Part of Efforts to Increase Competition, Level the Playing Field for Family Farmers and Ranchers, and Build a Better Food System

Yes we subsidize the hamburger. That is what you asked, right?

 

[Mr Natural]

In 20 years, they'll be laughing at us and our gasoline powered cars.

 

[rightwinger]

Didn't read or comprehend the OP, typical for you, huh?





In 1901, the Los Angeles Times declared “The electric automobile will quickly and easily take precedence over all other” types of motor vehicles

I was responding to the post above mine

Making comparisons to battery technology in the early 1900s is just plain stupid

 

[iamwhatiseem]

EVs are inevitable. But not yet.
My son is in the market for a car for his wife, she wanted an EV... but decided it is not feasible. There are simply not enough chargers around plus a good home charger cost up to $4000 installed by a reputable electrician who will encourage you to put in a separate power supply from the house. People installing EV stations through the home power supply can be a fire hazard.