It's the Ocean not the Atmosphere, dummy!

[ReinyDays]

Does this look like what dominated should look like? Because I'm really curious which body of heat - the atmosphere or the ocean - is the dominant heat source of the planet. Which body of heat do you believe transfers heat to the other one? Now what stupid ass thing were you saying, dummy?

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Science says the Sun ... but I'm fucking off so don't mind me ... what are these numbers per second? ...

ETA: The Sun warms the ocean .. all 1,360 W/m^2 ... the ocean warms the air ... why RHs are high there ...

 

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Density is caused by gravity ... are you seriously suggesting gravity is changing over climatic time periods ... talk about fruit loops ...

"Uneven heating" ... are you suggesting the sun flickers ... or is that the sugar pops talkin' ...

Sorry .. I should be fucking off ... don't want to let basic science interfere with your nonsense ... now do we? ... God forbid water should seek his own level ...

Density is caused by gravity? I'm thinking you should fuck off.

 

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but I'm fucking off so don't mind me

Ok

 

[ReinyDays]

Density is caused by gravity? I'm thinking you should fuck off.

Hot water sinks .. okay ... fucking off here ... can't let science buffoon your politics ...

 

[BULLDOG]

Just when it sounds like you meant the opposite of what you were saying.

You could have said, yes, the ocean does drive climate first, but you didn't. Now fuck off because you really don't know anything you are talking about.

You mad bro?

 

[Crick]

Just when it sounds like you meant the opposite of what you were saying.

You could have said, yes, the ocean does drive climate first, but you didn't. Now fuck off because you really don't know anything you are talking about.

And how the fuck would you know? You hang here day after day after day putting up nothing but one idiotic, demonstrably false idea after another. These ideas are clearly shown to you over and over and over again to be blatantly false; your understanding of basic physics, basic thermodynamics, basic chemistry are shown over and over and over again to be that of a young child. Yet you never give up. I hope you don't think anyone out there is thinking "Wow, he's stupid, but he sure is dedicated", cause they're not. Just the former, none of the latter.

 

[abu afak]

A Giant Smoke Screen/non sequitur from Ding the Ding Dong.

1. WHAT causes/HAS CAUSED the Ocean Currents?
That would be the same mentioned Milankovich Cycles that has Caused the Earth (and oceans) to tilt and get more or less sunlight.
The driver of PREVIOUS Glacial/inter-glacial periods.

2. Alas Previous Warmings (and ALL Ding's walls of Text) are not in debate.

3. AGW is in debate/Evidence as a NEW HUMAN Driven cause with the different mechanics of OUR GHGs leading the Warming not the Sun/Ocean/Milanki cycles.
And Human Warming/AGW is moving Much Faster.

4. IOW a giant POS/Obsolete ANALysis by Dingy.
Ding is always looking for subterfuges for his Crazy beliefs.. incl his other religious ones.

5. Others are not/never lucid enough to immediately see the Premise error, but I destroyed in one post/a few sentences.


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You mad bro?

Not at all. Why would I be? I'm not the one in over his head in this discussion. If you want to believe the atmosphere heats the ocean be my guest.

 

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And how the fuck would you know? You hang here day after day after day putting up nothing but one idiotic, demonstrably false idea after another. These ideas are clearly shown to you over and over and over again to be blatantly false; your understanding of basic physics, basic thermodynamics, basic chemistry are shown over and over and over again to be that of a young child. Yet you never give up. I hope you don't think anyone out there is thinking "Wow, he's stupid, but he sure is dedicated", cause they're not. Just the former, none of the latter.

Because I can read. I'll tell you the same thing I told the other bozo. I'm not the one in over his head in this discussion. If you want to believe the atmosphere heats the ocean be my guest.

 

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Your comprehension on how salinity is changed in ocean waters and what currents that drives need some serious work.

Feel free to explain it. I'd love to watch you slip the noose around your neck.

 

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WHAT causes/HAS CAUSED the Ocean Currents?
That would be the same mentioned Milankovich Cycles that has Caused the Earth (and oceans) to tilt and get more or less sunlight.
The driver of PREVIOUS Glacial/inter-glacial periods.

You think orbital cycles cause ocean currents?



What do you think Crick ? Do you believe orbital cycles cause ocean currents?

 

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2. Alas Previous Warmings (and ALL Ding's walls of Text) are not in debate.

3. AGW is in debate/Evidence as a NEW HUMAN Driven cause with the different mechanics of OUR GHGs leading the Warming not the Sun/Ocean/Milanki cycles.
And Human Warming/AGW is moving Much Faster.

4. IOW a giant POS/Obsolete ANALysis by Dingy.
Ding is always looking for subterfuges for his Crazy beliefs.. incl his other religious ones.

5. Others are not/never lucid enough to immediately see the Premise error, but I destroyed in one post/a few sentences.

It's almost as if you are incapable of writing coherent paragraphs.

 

[Crick]

It's almost as if you are incapable of writing coherent paragraphs.

Funny, that's how my two-year old granddaughter reacts too.

 

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Funny, that's how my two-year old granddaughter reacts too.

If you want to believe Apu is articulate, that's on you.

 

[Crick]

If you want to believe Apu is articulate, that's on you.

I'm talking about issues on the receiving end, Swifty

 

[Crick]

Feel free to explain it. I'd love to watch you slip the noose around your neck.

You would? Well, hold on just a sec while I stash that with all the rest of the denier death wishes. from this forum.

 

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You would? Well, hold on just a sec while I stash that with all the rest of the denier death wishes. from this forum.

You explaining thermohaline currents work will only prove my point. I'm posting papers on it for crying out loud. Do you imagine you will be arguing anything different than what those papers describe?

 

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I'm talking about issues on the receiving end, Swifty

Your talking about defending a moron who thinks orbital forcing causes ocean currents to change.

 

[Crick]

Your talking about defending a moron who thinks orbital forcing causes ocean currents to change.

Something like the rest of mainstream science? Yeah.... And what was your qualification to make that call? What education have you had? What do you do for a living? And you building a fusion power planet in your backyard like elektra?

 

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Something like the rest of mainstream science? Yeah.... And what was your qualification to make that call? What education have you had? What do you do for a living? And you building a fusion power planet in your backyard like elektra?

The rest of mainstream science believes that orbital cycles are responsible for ocean currents? Really?

Why do I need qualifications to post technical papers explaining ocean currents and their impact to climate?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0031018285800201

Deep Atlantic Circulation During the Last Glacial Maximum and Deglaciation​

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1029/PA005i004p00469

Collapse and rapid resumption of Atlantic meridional circulation linked to deglacial climate changes - Nature​

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2010PA002032

Depending on the circulation pattern ocean currents can cause the planet to warm or cool in abrupt fashion.

In other words, changing ocean currents are responsible for warming trends and cooling trends up to and including triggering glacial and interglacial periods.

Climate fluctuations and environmental uncertainty increased after the ice age (bipolar glaciation) began 3 million years ago and it is due to the planet's unique landmass distribution and changing ocean currents which is driven by uneven heating of the oceans.