Zone1 Is there a reason besides desiring voter fraud/cheating to NOT have Voter ID?

[Mr. Friscus]

They are, because the new laws being proposed are proposed with the intent of suppressing voter turnout.

Prove intent, and prove there’s any suppression (there isn’t any)

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Sure. Just show up tell them your name and sign......

I don’t think they think their logic through. It’s more Democrat double standards

 

[rightwinger]

It happened a large number of times during COVID when people showed up to vote and were told they already voted by absentee or by mail.

Many people had not voted absentee before and showed up to be sure. Now, if they showed up and someone had voted for them, you might have something
There was no evidence of voter fraud

 

[flewism]

"Is there a reason besides desiring voter fraud/cheating to NOT have Voter ID?"​

No there is not,

 

[Couchpotato]

Many people had not voted absentee before and showed up to be sure. Now, if they showed up and someone had voted for them, you might have something
There was no evidence of voter fraud

Right. They showed up and then were surprised to find out they had already voted via mail, though they did the voting....

 

[rightwinger]

They walk in with no ID, say they are someone else who is registered and then vote! How f-ing hard is that?

They do?


Then why aren’t there thousands of people screaming when they show up and find someone had voted for them?

Because it doesn’t happen

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They do?


Then why aren’t there thousands of people screaming when they show up and find someone had voted for them?

Because it doesn’t happen

Because it did! You just deny it. The real problem is nothing could be done.

 

[rightwinger]

Because it did! You just deny it. The real problem is nothing could be done.

But you can’t actually show it happened.
Not a single link of widespread voters finding someone had voted for them

You would think with all the claims of voter fraud from the right, the RW media would be all over it with sob stories

 

[ReinyDays]

Blue state. Why do your IDs cost so much? Can't you fix that problem for the poor who just want to vote?

Bridge bonds ... and notice Oregon bridges aren't falling down ...

Do you not check immigration status before registering to vote? An ID would be worthless if they were not registered to vote, so it works.

More important is the driver's license ... the worth here is having safe drivers on the streets ... a profoundly "State" issue ... if the Federal Government wants immigration status checked, they can come here and check immigration status ... it is illegal to use state tax dollars for this purpose ... our first concern is public safety ...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I do not see any negative consequences.

Because you don't mind disenfranchising some voters. You feel it is worth it to do so to address the in person Voter fraud that you believe exists, but which does not actually exist.

So are you starting to see the con, yet?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Prove intent, and prove there’s any suppression (there isn’t any)

Why would I lift a finger to try to convince you of anything?

But, if you care to read on your own, go read up on the accidental confessions and on ALEC.

Please understand. I would sooner chew glass than try to convince a trumper that water is wet. People ask questions, and I answer. I'm under no obligation to.convince you or anyone of anything.

Also, you can get halfway there just by using your brain. As there has never been a single shred of Evidence of any significant in person voter fraud, Clearly the point of the new voter. I. D laws is not to address in person voter fraud.

See? you're halfway there already.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

But you can’t actually show it happened.
Not a single link of widespread voters finding someone had voted for them

You would think with all the claims of voter fraud from the right, the RW media would be all over it with sob stories

That's part of the election lies: Conning their base into supporting solutions for nonproblms.

And now that lower turnout has once again favored a republican, You can be one hundred percent sure that they are going to start pushing these laws hard. And their other nefarious laws that are designed to be able to throw out batches of folks and suppress turnout.

 

[flewism]

Because you don't mind disenfranchising some voters. You feel it is worth it to do so to address the in person Voter fraud that you believe exists, but which does not actually exist.

So are you starting to see the con, yet?

What voters would be disenfranchised?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What voters would be disenfranchised?

Of course, the burden first is on you to answer what significant voter fraud will be stopped. What problem exists that this new restriction on our rights will address.

Like with gun control. I can point at dead children with their heads blown off.

Now, you're turn.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Why would I lift a finger to try to convince you of anything?

But, if you care to read on your own, go read up on the accidental confessions and on ALEC.

Please understand. I would sooner chew glass than try to convince a trumper that water is wet. People ask questions, and I answer. I'm under no obligation to.convince you or anyone of anything.

Also, you can get halfway there just by using your brain. As there has never been a single shred of Evidence of any significant in person voter fraud, Clearly the point of the new voter. I. D laws is not to address in person voter fraud.

See? you're halfway there already.

Writing fiction, how fun!

And since we’re making up slanderous intents about others.. what was your intent when you looked at that kid the last time you were out in public? I’ll just say you were aroused. And hey, I don’t even have to prove it!

 

[Mr. Friscus]

But you can’t actually show it happened.
Not a single link of widespread voters finding someone had voted for them

You would think with all the claims of voter fraud from the right, the RW media would be all over it with sob stories

I love when you shift the goalposts and add “widespread” to your requirements.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Writing fiction, how fun!

And since we’re making up slanderous intents about others.. what was your intent when you looked at that kid the last time you were out in public? I’ll just say you were aroused. And hey, I don’t even have to prove it!

Cute tantrum. I hope the drywall is intact.

Why are all of you such intellectual sissies? You degenerate into quivering little crybabies at the first bump in the road.

 

[flewism]

Of course, the burden first is on you to answer what significant voter fraud will be stopped. What problem exists that this new restriction on our rights will address.

Like with gun control. I can point at dead children with their heads blown off.

Now, you're turn.

I don't have to prove shit to you, I the dead children problem can be solved quickly, armed teachers and guards in schools and bring back asylums for the mentally ill.
You need ID to do anything in this country, hell you need ID to vote in all countries except this one.

Again, What voters would be disenfranchised? Maybe you?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I don't have to prove shit to you, I the dead children problem can be solved quickly, armed teachers and guards in schools and bring back asylums for the mentally ill.

We already have armed guards in schools, including ones where school shootings have already occured. We already lock up insane people that demonstrate they are a danger to society.

Gotta do better than that. Gee, should we also tell peope not to bring guns to school?

And thanks for accidentally making my point. You can't even show a problem that needs solving.

So I guess you have nothing. Thanks again for the assistance.

And you're right, you dont have to.convince me of anything at all. I can just keep opposing these nefarious laws you have been programmed to support.

 

[rightwinger]

I love when you shift the goalposts and add “widespread” to your requirements.

No goalpost has shifted

You are claiming widespread voter fraud that requires voter ID to fix it

Prove it before you demand Voter ID