Zone1 Is there a reason besides desiring voter fraud/cheating to NOT have Voter ID?

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No goalpost has shifted

You are claiming widespread voter fraud that requires voter ID to fix it

Prove it before you demand Voter ID

That's not how their brains work.

In their minds, they just have to repeat it enough times to find enough like minded people to agree and vote for it. They don't have much use for evidence or reason.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Because you don't mind disenfranchising some voters. You feel it is worth it to do so to address the in person Voter fraud that you believe exists, but which does not actually exist.

So are you starting to see the con, yet?

Nope. It’s checks and balances. You have zero proof it disenfranchises anyone

 

[flewism]

We already have armed guards in schools, including ones where school shootings have already occured. We already lock up insane people that demonstrate they are a danger to society.

Gotta do better than that. Gee, should we also tell peope not to bring guns to school?

And thanks for accidentally making my point. You can't even show a problem that needs solving.

So I guess you have nothing. Thanks again for the assistance.

And you're right, you dont have to.convince me of anything at all. I can just keep opposing these nefarious laws you have been programmed to support.

Have you ever worked an election? What happens to the ballots that a person signs an affidavit without ID?

School shooting, or mass shootings against soft targets.

Third time What voters would be disenfranchised?

 

[Mac-7]

Why wouldn’t I show up to vote like I always do?

You are just playing rope-a-dope on this question

We both know how democrat election cheating works

 

[Mac-7]

That depends pretty much on the signature.

My wife can fake my signature but only after 42 years of practice. My daughter cannot fake mine, but I can hers because her's sucks so badly.

At many democrat run polling places the fake voter could sign Mickey Mouse and the democrat poll worker would hand him a ballot

Having republican poll watchers helps but all they can do is complain to the democrat poll judge

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nope. It’s checks and balances. You have zero proof it disenfranchises anyone

You wouldn't care if I did. Because you don't care if it disenfranchises voters.

To prove it:

What would that evidence look like, in your estimation?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Have you ever worked an election? What happens to the ballots that a person signs an affidavit without ID?

School shooting, or mass shootings against soft targets.

Third time What voters would be disenfranchised?

Nope, sorry. The burden is first on the person tryng to restrict my rights. I don't have to make any argument against it at all, until you argue why it is necessary.

Which you cannot do, because there is no significant in person fraud.

So we will instead be treated to whatever that was ^^

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You wouldn't care if I did. Because you don't care if it disenfranchises voters.

To prove it:

What would that evidence look like, in your estimation?

Data

Don’t tell me what I would or would not care about

 

[rightwinger]

You are just playing rope-a-dope on this question

We both know how democrat election cheating works

We do?

Why don’t you give some specifics!

 

[Mac-7]

We do?

Why don’t you give some specifics!

I already have

They parse the voting rolls on election day and deploy fake voters

 

[westwall]

I can’t think of any logical reason why any US voter would oppose a requirement of validating their ID to vote.

Are any USMB leftists/Democrats able to do so? Your party always fights it, and many of your states don’t require it. It’s a leftist position (and a radical one, way out there in left field. Pretty much All other countries require it.)

Nope

 

[yidnar]

Yes, protecting the right to vote.

We have a long history of voter suppression with schemes such as Poll Taxes and Literacy Tests.

The people least likely to have up to date ID are more likely to be poor or marginalized communities.

I guess poor and marginalized people weren't allowed to attend the dem convention ..

Democrats Oppose Voter ID While Requiring ID for Convention

Brianna Lyman of the Federalist notes one point of Democratic Party hypocrisy. The Biden-Harris administration has called voter photo identification laws “burdensome” and “unnecessary.” The administration has let hundreds of thousands of unvetted illegal immigrants pour across the border with no...

www.johnlocke.org

 

[rightwinger]

I already have

They parse the voting rolls on election day and deploy fake voters

Who are “they”?

How do you know who has sent in an absentee ballot that hasn’t been registered yet or who shows up to vote after work just before polls close?

You live in a fantasy world.
You don’t know who has not voted till after the polls close

 

[Mac-7]

How do you know who has sent in an absentee ballot that hasn’t been registered yet or who shows up to vote after work just before polls close?

Because the local government is infested with partisan democrats

They have access to all the information democrats need to pack ballot boxes with mail-in votes or send impostors to vote on election day

 

[ReinyDays]

Nope. It’s checks and balances. You have zero proof it disenfranchises anyone

$41 for an ID here in Oregon ... and we give these out to illegal immigrants ... $195 for a US Passport not including certified copy of birth certificate or the photograph ...

The Poor can't use Food Stamps for this purpose ...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

$41 for an ID here in Oregon ... and we give these out to illegal immigrants ... $195 for a US Passport not including certified copy of birth certificate or the photograph ...

The Poor can't use Food Stamps for this purpose ...

Oregon is a deep blue state. Perhaps Oregon should elect different officials?

 

[ReinyDays]

Oregon is a deep blue state. Perhaps Oregon should elect different officials?

Or suppress the vote ... We the People of the State of Oregon voted in the affirmative to double all DMV fees to fund government bonds to rebuild all our old failing bridges ... before they fall ... c.f. I-35W ...

Like California, our agricultural sector relies on migrant labor, why would different elected officials create better drivers among this labor pool? ...

Only four counties in Oregon are Blue ... 19 counties are profoundly Red ... and 13 counties have succeeded and joined Idaho ... just that over half the voters live in Portland ... downstream of Hanford ... [giggle] ...

Our elections must be fair ... as you said, we're Blue ... and we elect Democrats to State Offices ... blue precincts vote blue, red precincts vote red ... straight across the board every election ...

The rampant pedophilia is getting to be a problem ... traffic jams of state-owned limousines at Salem's Middle Schools ... it's annoying ...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Or suppress the vote ... We the People of the State of Oregon voted in the affirmative to double all DMV fees to fund government bonds to rebuild all our old failing bridges ... before they fall ... c.f. I-35W ...

Like California, our agricultural sector relies on migrant labor, why would different elected officials create better drivers among this labor pool? ...

Only four counties in Oregon are Blue ... 19 counties are profoundly Red ... and 13 counties have succeeded and joined Idaho ... just that over half the voters live in Portland ... downstream of Hanford ... [giggle] ...

Our elections must be fair ... as you said, we're Blue ... and we elect Democrats to State Offices ... blue precincts vote blue, red precincts vote red ... straight across the board every election ...

The rampant pedophilia is getting to be a problem ... traffic jams of state-owned limousines at Salem's Middle Schools ... it's annoying ...

You’re a vote by mail state. Portland is an embarrassment. Keep living in your “utopia”

 

[JoeB131]

You would make a great republican career politician

The dems would cheat you out of everything you have

You didn't answer the question. If all this voter fraud is going on, where are all the people claiming someone else cast their vote?

 

[JoeB131]

Having to roll out of bed in order to vote is "harder", as is filling out the registration forms, or mailing it or doing anything for that matter. Having an ID is a bar so low you could only stub your toe on it if you were dragging your feet. What if in the bill to require voter ID you are issued said photo ID free of charge when you register to vote? Then the only "inconvenience" is remembering to stick the fucking thing in your pocket when you go to vote. Would you still be opposed to it?

Yes, I would, because simply... YOU PEOPLE CANNOT BE TRUSTED!!!!