Democrats Vote against not only the Save Act but also strict Photo ID ONLY

[StrongAF_2026]

You could not use your military ID to register to vote ....under the save act military ids are not good enough, driver's photo ID licences are not accepted, REAL ID driver's licences are not accepted either even though it was required to have a birth certificate shown when getting it.....

A US passport costing $160 is accepted, a birth certificate is accepted except for ALL MARRIED WOMEN registering to vote...the birth certificate has their maiden names on them so married or divorced women would also need to get or buy a copy of their marriage licence where their maiden and married names show the change of name too which is a burden on women that is not on men....

The bill is not well thought out and does put unnecessary burden on certain voting groups which makes it unfair and unconstitutional....

And why aren't the voters already registered made to go through these extremes in order to vote....? For all the existing voters REAL ID is acceptable for them but NOT the people newly registering now....

In the Save Act, the citizens already registered to vote will be vetted for citizenship without the burden of proof of birth/citizenship being put on them individually....the SAVE act lets the local govts check a new data system created to confirm their birth rights.... So they do not have to go through the burden it puts on new voters....

If this new data base can be used to verify the existing voter's citizenship, then why oh why oh why can't it be used by the States on newly registering voters? Instead of making them go through this shit?

Republicans do not want more women registering to vote, do not want more students registering to vote, etc etc etc it seems.....?

I disagree with a lot of what you have to say, BUT....putting that to the side.
Go back and reread my original post. Democrats voted 100% against strict photo ID WITHOUT proof of citizenship.
They want to be able to cheat....that's the bottom line.

 

[Alicia J]

Obama extended those tax cuts.

He extended the tax cuts for the middle class....not for the wealthiest Americans.

A smart thing to do when you are trying to kickstart the economy after the Great Recession.

 

[pknopp]

He extended the tax cuts for the middle class....not for the wealthiest Americans.

Which still contributed to his 9 trillion of debt.

A smart thing to do when you are trying to kickstart the economy after the Great Recession.

Retiring the guy that lead that collapse was an incredibly stupid.thing to do though. (Ben Bernanke).

Not Going after the bankers that broke our laws like he promised was an incredibly stupid thing to do.

 

[Alicia J]

Which still contributed to his 9 trillion of debt.

Not Obama's biggest concern after an economic catastrophe. Nor should it be.

Retiring the guy that lead that collapse was an incredibly stupid.thing to do though. (Ben Bernanke).

Huh? Why should Obama keep a guy who failed to safeguard our economy?

Not Going after the bankers that broke our laws like he promised was an incredibly stupid thing to do.

Yes, it was. Which is one reason I don't hold as high of an opinion of Obama as other liberals. Neither he nor Eric Holder did nearly enough to hold the Wall Street crooks accountable.

But what is even more stupid is people on the right calling Obama a "communist". If he truly was a communist, then he would have thrown every single one of those Wall Street banker CEOs in jail after what happened in 2008.

 

[pknopp]

Not Obama's biggest concern after an economic catastrophe. Nor should it be.


Huh? Why should Obama keep a guy who failed to safeguard our economy?

He DID keep him. Yes, why should he have done that? Do you not understand he denominated Bernanke?

Yes, it was. Which is one reason I don't hold as high of an opinion of Obama as other liberals. Neither he nor Eric Holder did nearly enough to hold the Wall Street crooks accountable.

But what is even more stupid is people on the right calling Obama a "communist". If he truly was a communist, then he would have thrown every single one of those Wall Street banker CEOs in jail after what happened in 2008.

I hate when people do this. What others might have done has nothing to do with me.

 

[Alicia J]

He DID keep him. Yes, why should he have done that? Do you not understand he denominated Bernanke?

OK, I misunderstood what you wrote. I don't think presidents can fire a federal reserve chairman. Trump is going through that right now with Powell.

I hate when people do this. What others might have done has nothing to do with me.

Whatever. I just pointed out a true statement about imbeciles on the right.

 

[pknopp]

OK, I misunderstood what you wrote. I don't think presidents can fire a federal reserve chairman. Trump is going through that right now with Powell.

He reappointed him.

Remarks on the Reappointment of Ben S. Bernanke as Chairman of the Federal Reserve in Oak Bluffs, Massachusetts | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu

Whatever. I just pointed out a true statement about imbeciles on the right.

Dont care. You are defending the indefensible also.

 

[Alicia J]

He reappointed him.

Remarks on the Reappointment of Ben S. Bernanke as Chairman of the Federal Reserve in Oak Bluffs, Massachusetts | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu

Dont care. You are defending the indefensible also.

What "indefensible"?

 

[pknopp]

What "indefensible"?

Obama and his complete failure to live up to his promises.

Want me to list them?

Its a long list.

 

[Alicia J]

Obama and his complete failure to live up to his promises.

Want me to list them?

Its a long list.

Not really I don't. It's nothing compared to horrible Bush, who you voted for. And definitely nothing compared to Trump.

 

[pknopp]

Not really I don't. It's nothing compared to horrible Bush, who you voted for. And definitely nothing compared to Trump.

Lash out. Sadly this is how the cults have been trained.

I supported 90% of what Candidate Obama ran on.

I supported 10% of what President Obama actually did.

Hence my earlier.........

Ooooommmmmmm.

 

[longly]

Bill Text - SB-145 Sex offenders: registration.

The legislation is a little bit different than described. But it is still moronic.

It deals with the law that requires sex offenders to register. I support the registration requirement for sex offenders.
This bill modifies the list:


Same source as linked above.

The question is “why?” Why would a guy 9 years older than a 13 or 14 year old not be required to register for getting or giving head to such a minor.

California is fucked up. That law was proposed in 2020.

Also, check this out:

California Senate Bill 145: What Changed for Sex Offenders

SB-145 gave California judges discretion over sex offender registration for more offenses, though criminal penalties stayed the same.

legalclarity.org

Perhaps I’m misinformed, but my understanding was that the law merely grants judges discretion over registration. That said, it seems entirely possible that some judges could apply this unevenly, favoring certain groups over others.

 

[Care4all]

I disagree with a lot of what you have to say, BUT....putting that to the side.
Go back and reread my original post. Democrats voted 100% against strict photo ID WITHOUT proof of citizenship.
They want to be able to cheat....that's the bottom line.

Actually it is your republicans creating this bill that want to cheat, by making it harder for CITIZENS to vote, especially the citizens they know lean voting towards democrats. (Women, students, absentee ballot voters etc).....these are all citizens! Not your imaginary illegal that you've been brainwashed to believe is voting, which is utter bull crap.

You have been BRAINWASHED to believe hordes of non citizens vote, with ZERO EVIDENCE that they do, as an excuse to make all of these hurdles for CITIZENS, who have done NOTHING WRONG, purposely to reduce citizen groups you think will vote more for your opponents.... from voting.

Y'all fool no one, we know who you are and we know your tricks.....

 

[BackAgain]

Perhaps I’m misinformed, but my understanding was that the law merely grants judges discretion over registration. That said, it seems entirely possible that some judges could apply this unevenly, favoring certain groups over others.

I believe the working part of the law is the judge’s discretion, case by case. But this law removes a barrier to employing such discretion.

All for the benefit of a 23 year old creep doing the acts to a 14 years old child. Why would such a guy deserve any such discretion?

 

[StrongAF_2026]

Actually it is your republicans creating this bill that want to cheat, by making it harder for CITIZENS to vote, especially the citizens they know lean voting towards democrats. (Women, students, absentee ballot voters etc).....these are all citizens! Not your imaginary illegal that you've been brainwashed to believe is voting, which is utter bull crap.

You have been BRAINWASHED to believe hordes of non citizens vote, with ZERO EVIDENCE that they do, as an excuse to make all of these hurdles for CITIZENS, who have done NOTHING WRONG, purposely to reduce citizen groups you think will vote more for your opponents.... from voting.

Y'all fool no one, we know who you are and we know your tricks.....

Wrong. You did not read my first post.
This was an amendment for photo ID ONLY that the Democrats voted against. So they can cheat.

https://www.congress.gov/amendment/119th-congress/senate-amendment/4732/text

And there is plenty of proof...here are over 1000 cases ...and there are thousands more too...
https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/108824/documents/HHRG-116-JU00-20190129-SD020.pdf

You are brainwashed. Wake up.

 

[pknopp]

Wrong. You did not read my first post.
This was an amendment for photo ID ONLY that the Democrats voted against. So they can cheat.

https://www.congress.gov/amendment/119th-congress/senate-amendment/4732/text

And there is plenty of proof...here are over 1000 cases ...and there are thousands more too...
https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/108824/documents/HHRG-116-JU00-20190129-SD020.pdf

You are brainwashed. Wake up.

Your examples date back for like 50 years.

So in all those years and billions of votes, they found an incredible small number of cases.

 

[StrongAF_2026]

Your examples date back for like 50 years.

So in all those years and billions of votes, they found an incredible small number of cases.

Your examples date back for like 50 years.

So in all those years and billions of votes, they found an incredible small number of cases.

Some are older but plenty from the 2000's on. This is ONE document, one example. There are dozens more. But it wont matter, you will just keep saying "yeah but its not enough"...ANY cheating is too much. Some state elections are swung by 100's of votes.

Why do you think Democrats brought 20 million illegals here in the last 5 years ? Because they love unvetted people polluting our schools and Emergency rooms ?

 

[pknopp]

Some are older but plenty from the 2000's on. This is ONE document, one example. There are dozens more. But it wont matter, you will just keep saying "yeah but its not enough"...ANY cheating is too much. Some state elections are swung by 100's of votes.

Why do you think Democrats brought 20 million illegals here in the last 5 years ? Because they love unvetted people polluting our schools and Emergency rooms ?

At least you quit pretending they are voting.

 

[StrongAF_2026]

At least you quit pretending they are voting.

There are 100's of cases in that document of them voting WTF are you talking about ?
This is what people mean when they tell you that you have TDS...even when evidence is beating you in the face you resist and sit there and go "uhhhh...Epstein.....uhhhhh...Con man...uhhhhh...cant be true...MUST RESIST".
Maybe one day you will wake up.

 

[Nostra]

Obama extended those tax cuts.

That makes him racist.

Why did Barry give millionaires and billionaires yuuuuuuge handouts while the poor black folks starve in the streets?