Is the culture war new?

[rupol2000]

Well, I guess if things had stay conservative, we'd all be subsistence farmers with only a few lords lording over us.

No, this kind of conservatism is a leftist property. The left wants, farm-community, not individual land-keeping. It was back in the Paleolithic.

 

[eagle1462010]

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You will OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY. The World Economic Forum is meeting with world leaders in Glasco right now. They keep both sides at each others throats..........lie to everyone with only one goal.......all the power and control over everyone........and will take a dump on even those who supported them when it comes.

Just history repeating over and over again.

 

[frigidweirdo]

That's socialism and/or communism.

Do your research.

I'm massively confused. You think feudal times was Communism or Socialism?

Care to tell me what you think Communism and Socialism are? Because I know what they are.

 

[frigidweirdo]

No, this kind of conservatism is a leftist property. The left wants, farm-community, not individual land-keeping. It was back in the Paleolithic.

What?

 

[rupol2000]

What?

In the Bronze Age and Early Iron Age, the old European culture of the north of Europe, line-corded ceramics, retained matriarchy and communality. People lived together, in long houses with pigs, and worked collectively. This was the first leftist regime. The Baltic cultures preserved this order until the arrival of the Avars.(6-7 centuries AD)

 

[frigidweirdo]

In the Bronze Age and Early Iron Age, the old European culture of the north of Europe, line-corded ceramics, retained matriarchy and communality. People lived together, in long houses with pigs, and worked collectively. This was the first leftist regime. The Baltic cultures preserved this order until the arrival of the Avars.(6-7 centuries AD)

Collectively, but with a hierarchical structure. People didn't have a place to go, they were born into their tribe and unless you died, were captured or married out, it's where you stayed. No real choice.

People worked together, but no doubt those who didn't want to work were killed pretty quickly. Not Socialism, not Communism in any sense because it was just survival. Humans are social creatures, we naturally form societies of some kind, and we're people of power and those who wanted or could take power, would have power over the others.

Communism is a thought out process. It's not just a "hey, we need to survive", which is a difference.

These societies would have been very conservative, very much stuck in their ways. Change happened slowly, over generations or centuries.

 

[rupol2000]

barrack of old europe

Collectively, but with a hierarchical structure. People didn't have a place to go, they were born into their tribe and unless you died, were captured or married out, it's where you stayed. No real choice.

The simplest hierarchy was obvious there: matrons with drones and slaves. It is no different from the communist hierarchy. This is not a tribal system. There were no tribes, apparently the slaves were simply captured, then multiplied and did not know about any kindredness.
The tribal system is patriarchy, it is based on the family(oriental nomadic type of society)

 

[frigidweirdo]

barrack of old europe

The simplest hierarchy was obvious there: matrons with drones and slaves. It is no different from the communist hierarchy. This is not a tribal system. There were no tribes, apparently the slaves were simply captured, then multiplied and did not know about any kindredness.
The tribal system is patriarchy, it is based on the family(oriental nomadic type of society)

Well, Communism achieved has no hierarchy.

 

[rupol2000]

Well, Communism achieved has no hierarchy.

Therefore, equality is declared there.

 

[surada]

People define the "culture war" as orthodoxy versus the progressives. Orthodox people want things to stay as they are or they even want to roll back things. Progressives want change.

So BLM is progressive; they want cops to stop being so aggressive with black people. The Texas' stance on abortion is orthodox. Texas is rolling back abortion laws from the first trimester to just the first two weeks.

So that's what people say the culture war is: progressives versus the orthodox.

Do you think this is a new thing?

Back in the 1920s people were upset because female "flapper" dancers exposed the calves of their legs. They thought radio was making people stupid because people had stopped reading. Cars were mobile dens of inequity where couples would drive to a secluded place and make out.

Progressives in the 1920s wanted things like unemployment insurance and social security. And to do away with Jim Crow laws in the South.

And then we have this:

“Children; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. They no longer rise when elders enter the room, they contradict their parents and tyrannize their teachers. Children are now tyrants.”

-- Socrates, circa 470BC

So is the culture war new or something that's been going on since forever?

The backlash against science and modernity in 1915 gave rise to Christian fundamentalism.

 

[surada]

No, this kind of conservatism is a leftist property. The left wants, farm-community, not individual land-keeping. It was back in the Paleolithic.

Nativism and fundamentalism in the 1920s (article) | Khan Academy

In the 1920s, a backlash against immigrants and modernism led to the original culture wars.

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Transformation and backlash in the 1920s. While prosperous, middle-class Americans found much to celebrate about a new era of leisure and consumption, many Americans—often those in rural areas—disagreed on the meaning of a “good life” and …

 

[frigidweirdo]

Therefore, equality is declared there.

Yes, equality with Communism.

Iron Age tribes or anything like would not have been equal at all

 

[rupol2000]

Yes, equality with Communism.

Iron Age tribes or anything like would not have been equal at all

There was no bronze or iron in this region, they only partially borrowed it from the La Tene culture. They lived in the Neolithic economics. They did not even have a wheel, they used images of the wheel as an object of religious worship at a certain time.

 

[rupol2000]

They did not even have a wheel, they used images of the wheel as an object of religious worship at a certain time.

By the way, it is very likely that the so-called "solar symbol" in the form of swastikas and wheels, which was used by the Nazis and is used by modern neo-Nazis, has precisely this origin. Apparently the ancient Germanobalts saw Aryan chariots from afar, and they thought they were gods. In general, they had chthonic cults associated with reptiles.
In any case, no swastikas are mentioned in the Aryan sources and, as far as I know, have not been found on the ancient Aryan rock paintings. In India, only Jains had this symbol. It is clear that it has nothing to do with the Aryans.

In general, the culture of imitation was widespread there. Many makets of iron products, such as bone models of pins, have been found in the Baltic cultures.

 

[rupol2000]

They used mainly stone axes as weapons.

 

[rupol2000]

In fact, there is a lot of confusion about what is traditional and what is not. Both cultures, European matriarchy / priesthood / left liberalism / communism on the one hand and patriarchy / romance / chivalry / right-wing freedom are historical cultures and they only changed among themselves as one side or another conquered.

For example christianity is leftish and is new culture, but it used as "tradition"

 

[surada]

There was no bronze or iron in this region, they only partially borrowed it from the La Tene culture. They lived in the Neolithic economics. They did not even have a wheel, they used images of the wheel as an object of religious worship at a certain time.

Bronze? They made bronze with copper.. It may have been the first evidence of globalism.

 

[rupol2000]

Bronze? They made bronze with copper.. It may have been the first evidence of globalism.

Who are they? I'm talking about the culture of linear ceramics, which inherited the communist structure of Old Europe.
The Hallstatt and La Tene cultures were oriental. They came from the Asian steppe, and were themselves a part of it. It was in Hallstatt that the first iron in Europe was found, but this does not apply to the Proto-Germans and Proto-Balts

Already in the third millennium BC, in the southeast there was a Balkan-Carpathian metallurgical province, in the area of the East Hallshtat culture, but the appearance of metal in northern Europe in some places occurred only in the middle of our era.

 

[rupol2000]

This clearly coincides with the Great Eurasian Steppe, which covers the Danube region

 

[rupol2000]

Until the First World War in the Danube region, in Austro-Hungary, true patriarchal traditions were preserved. There were no matrons there, all the men from the aristocracy dressed in military uniforms, no one dressed in the fagot Franco-German style, did not wear stockings, and so on.