Is It Moral for Married Couples to do Oral/Anal?


It still does not bother me. He may be destroying himself but those are his choices.


Mutual consent is not involved when the activity is spousal assault and battery. Such crimes fall under the authority of the police. Naturally an injured or scared individual may come to you for a variety of reasons and want your help. It becomes your business to the extent that you want to help someone. A “street person” walked up to my car while I was waiting for a stoplight. He asked for some change. I declined to help him.

How I treat you naturally becomes your business. Again, though, if my wife and I are engaged in activity that does not involve mutual consent, people (particularly the police) should become involved.



The above post still does not give concrete and specific information.


The above post makes a good point. People can't be completely secluded from the consequences of the activities of others. Still, having oral sex indoors with the shades pulled down is different from living in a rat infested home. Similarly, one can't live in a bubble protected from air pollution created by drivers and smokers. Are we to outlaw automobiles because I ride a bicycle and don't want to breath toxic exhaust? As I often say, issues are relative and a balance is drawn.

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if it does not benefit the well being of society then what use are you?

Okay. Some activity, as I mentioned, likely affects the health of others. The question becomes where to draw the line. I'm a little bit concerned with the comment about things being for the well being of society. Are we to outlaw all things that don't benefit society?

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That is why there are laws preventing drinking & driving. And if you want to get down to brass tacks, bar are responsible for who leaves their establishments intoxicated.

If someone drinks and drives and causes a wreck, permanently injuring someone as a result, I think that there should be a severe penalty. I'd even recommend that he be prevented from ever driving again. I don't like the "pass the buck” mentality. A bar is not to blame for a drunk driving accident. A store that sells porn is not to blame if someone rapes someone after reading a porn magazine. A gun shop is not to blame when one buys a gun and uses it to shoot an innocent person. The blame falls directly on the individual who actually committed the crime.

In summary, my question remains unanswered. In and of itself, oral and anal sex between married couples does not affect society. Other activities might (smoking, driving, etc.) but not oral sex between consenting married couples.

Since my socio-political position is similar to that of a moderate social Libertarian, in answer to your question, I think that it is amoral for married couples to engage in oral or anal sex. For the most part, informed mutually consenting adults should be free to do as they please – and face the consequences (risks and rewards) of their actions.
 
To be accurate, you would have to have stated so in the original question.

Should married couples engage in anal oral sex, would include ALL married couples. If you want to liimit it, then you would have to say, should monogamous couples.....

Do I really need to state the assumption that married couples are monogamous? Maybe it's just me, I think it's reasonable to assume that a marriage is, at least ideally, a monogamous relationship.
 
Is there a prohibition in the Bible against a women sleeping with another women, e.g., like the Bible is against a man being with another man like a woman?

sorry, had to find the verse:

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination
 
Is there a prohibition in the Bible against a women sleeping with another women, e.g., like the Bible is against a man being with another man like a woman?

sorry, had to find the verse:

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination
do you have chapter and verse on that? :laugh:
 
do you have chapter and verse on that? :laugh:

Hmmm, Lev. somewhere, hold on...

18:22


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20Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her.

21And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

23Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.




I just can't find where it says a woman shall not lie with a woman like womankind... Err, you know, something like that.... That was my point
 
Hmmm, Lev. somewhere, hold on...

18:22


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20Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her.

21And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

23Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.




I just can't find where it says a woman shall not lie with a woman like womankind... Err, you know, something like that.... That was my point


Ok, for Catholic version we drop 'mankind' 'womankind' that sounded weird to me, like pc.
 
Do I really need to state the assumption that married couples are monogamous? Maybe it's just me, I think it's reasonable to assume that a marriage is, at least ideally, a monogamous relationship.

Actually, yes I think so. Maybe not in other times, but these days, the rate of infidelity is quite high.
 
Please call me a "prude" of a guy, but this whole topic just doesn't seem right in a public forum. Especially discussing it with folks that we don't really know. I know that we are all basically anonymous behind our P.C.'s, and hopefully fairly well-adjusted adults, but .........

Maybe it's just my generation. We knew about these things, but we didn't openly talk about it in these mixed sex environs......Seems like this discussion belongs between spouses or trusted marriage/sexual counselors.

Especially if we're married folks........

I'll do it first............."Eightball! Your a prude!":whip:
 
Please call me a "prude" of a guy, but this whole topic just doesn't seem right in a public forum. Especially discussing it with folks that we don't really know. I know that we are all basically anonymous behind our P.C.'s, and hopefully fairly well-adjusted adults, but .........

Maybe it's just my generation. We knew about these things, but we didn't openly talk about it in these mixed sex environs......Seems like this discussion belongs between spouses or trusted marriage/sexual counselors.

Especially if we're married folks........

I'll do it first............."Eightball! Your a prude!":whip:
You're being forced to read this with a gun to your head too? Phew. Glad I'm not alone.
 
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You're being forced to read this with a gun to your head too? Phew. Glad I'm not alone.

Actually your right........I don't have to read any of the post.......and actually I haven't.......but I did read some. Just got uncomfortable.

I just wonder if I were to go back 2,000 years ago, and sit by a nice fire by the Sea of Gallilee with J.C. Himself. Would I really want to ask Him his opinion on this subject? Me? No. I just couldn't. Do you think His disciples asked Him things along these lines? I don't know, but somehow in my gut, I doubt it.
 
Actually your right........I don't have to read any of the post.......and actually I haven't.......but I did read some. Just got uncomfortable.

I just wonder if I were to go back 2,000 years ago, and sit by a nice fire by the Sea of Gallilee with J.C. Himself. Would I really want to ask Him his opinion on this subject? Me? No. I just couldn't. Do you think His disciples asked Him things along these lines? I don't know, but somehow in my gut, I doubt it.
The one question I'd love to ask would be His opinion on static vs. dynamic, that is, if things must always be viewed through the same glass, or if cultural and moral changes are to be expected and embraced, responsibly, of course.

Then I'd challenge Him to a Go-Cart race, just because it'd be completely juvenile fun.
 
Actually your right........I don't have to read any of the post.......and actually I haven't.......but I did read some. Just got uncomfortable.

I just wonder if I were to go back 2,000 years ago, and sit by a nice fire by the Sea of Gallilee with J.C. Himself. Would I really want to ask Him his opinion on this subject? Me? No. I just couldn't. Do you think His disciples asked Him things along these lines? I don't know, but somehow in my gut, I doubt it.
I doubt if this would be the first question out of my mouth and maybe the subject would never be brought up, but who would/should you discuss this with? How about the Man that was in on your creation & redemption?
I understand it making you uncomfortable, but these are things that are faced in life. Who better understands?
Abnormalities, distorted acts, lust should be discussed in an adult manner in case they need to be repented. It's not like we're all sitting here breathing hard & slobbering over the words written.
 
People shouldn't even have to ASK the question. To me, common sense dictates the answer. If a husband and wife are fine with it, physically and spiritually, there's no problem. simple as that.
 
People shouldn't even have to ASK the question. To me, common sense dictates the answer. If a husband and wife are fine with it, physically and spiritually, there's no problem. simple as that.
That's not entirely true, which has been part of the topic of this thread.

There are ways that seem right to a man, but........
 
Thats why you decide TOGETHER, Joz!
Which brings me back to the same ol' statement.

Just because a couple thinks it's okay, doesn't make it so.

I think people are misunderstanding me. I'm not saying it is right or wrong. If you want your wife to strap on a fake penis & ram you in the butt, I don't really care.

What I am saying is that certain beliefs/behaviors, right or wrong, reflect in how you conduct your life; your opinions, your decisions, your votes, how you rear your children, etc.
And just because you think that belief/behavior is right, because you have made that decision with your partner, doesn't make that behavior right in the sight of the law, society or God.

A decent, civilized society has a vested interest in your conduct.
 
Which brings me back to the same ol' statement.

Just because a couple thinks it's okay, doesn't make it so.

Ya, but that just brings us back to the same ol' statement.

Just because you don't think it's okay doesn't make it so either.


I do think, from reading the posts, that most people have said that although anal is yucky it isn't immoral, as long as both people choose to do it and no one is pressured.
 
Ya, but that just brings us back to the same ol' statement.

Just because you don't think it's okay doesn't make it so either.
Which is what I said several pages ago.

And that is why I asked the question, What do you use as a measure of conduct? What governs your decisions, your beliefs, the way you live your life?
Do you use the whole Bible, only part? The Evolution theory? The Constitution? Do you go on what momma taught you? How about Dr. Phil....or Dr. Ruth? Or do you just believe in live & let live? How do you decide what is right & wrong?
 

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