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ONE Church meaning ALL BELIEVERS. There were no Catholics, no Protestants, no denominations but people meeting in homes to break bread and study what manuscripts were available to them. No huge structures called churches. No cathedrals. Just what Paul and Peter described as a priesthood of all believers. It was catholic but with a small 'c', i.e. universal or including all who believe. That is my interpretation of the manuscripts and I allow others their own interpretations.ditto here. But Jesus did establish ONE Church. If you study the Early Church Fathers, you find
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I meant me! And why I couldn't answer why bad things happen to really good people. I know God can handle anything...but....well, I would like to know what you consider "senseless."
I don't understand why more people don't delve more deeply into Bible Study.Are you talking about people who get ticked at God because he doesn't do this or that and then they call themselves atheists and/or stop going to Church because of it?
Prayer is so powerful; I wonder why more people don't see that.Well, if that's what you're saying, I totally agree. I have been angry as *&^%$ at God and I know I will "go there" again before it's over, but I never stopped believing in Him or seeking Him. What some people don't seem to realize is that it is indeed possible to actually KNOW that He exists and is there for us in prayer. So I am at that place and I pity those who are not.... not sure how I can help them get to where I am, but whatever----
You can't. Each person must make their own walk.not sure how I can help them get to where I am, but whatever----
Good would have no reference point without the bad.And why I couldn't answer why bad things happen to really good people.
They were Catholic. There is only ONE body of believers despite Satan's disruptions throughout history. You either believe as Christ taught or you are a heretic. Anyone who disagrees w/ Christ's Church on some given dogma (doctrine) is wrong and there is no way of getting around that. We can accept other "churches" but when they violate TRUTH, we cannot accept that violation.ONE Church meaning ALL BELIEVERS. There were no Catholics, no Protestants, no denominations but people meeting in homes to break bread and study
I credit having spent much time in the Real Presence for my knowing Jesus. I also know him through scripture and prayer but if a good priest yrs ago had not informed me of the benefits of spending time in Christ's actual, tangible Presence, found inside the Church, I would not know that there is---well, a Jesus Christ who actually interacts with us (silently, usually). I mean, yeh, I probably would, because Christ and the Father existing are very logical (though not to all, obviously).I meant me! And why I couldn't answer why bad things happen to really good people. I know God can handle anything...but....
I don't understand why more people don't delve more deeply into Bible Study.
Prayer is so powerful; I wonder why more people don't see that.
Yes, God has revealed this to me. I often worry about people getting to Heaven and avoiding the other nasty place. However, you can lead a horse to water.... and that's about all you can do. Oh, and you can pray. Prayer is awesome and can do things that other actions cannot.You can't. Each person must make their own walk.
Where many Christians don't agree is what Jesus and/or the Bible taught.They were Catholic. There is only ONE body of believers despite Satan's disruptions throughout history. You either believe as Christ taught or you are a heretic. Anyone who disagrees w/ Christ's Church on some given dogma (doctrine) is wrong and there is no way of getting around that. We can accept other "churches" but when they violate TRUTH, we cannot accept that violation.
and bad would have no reference point w/o the goodGood would have no reference point without the bad.
so you are focused on HUMANS and their "truth" ---subjective as it often is?So whose truth is not to be violated? I think we have to be very careful not to assume that we have the truth and another does not.
I don't recall the Bible mentioning eating dirt. The ONLY written resource to know what Jesus' taught is the New Testament other than a few short mentions by historians of that time.so you are focused on HUMANS and their "truth" ---subjective as it often is?
I am not talking about human truth. I am talking about the TRUTH Christ taught. Example (please excuse my off-the-top-of-my-head analogy):
If some "christian" said he or she believes in, say, eating dirt, but the Catholic Church says that you can get sick doing that and it is a sin to abuse your body (which it does teach that it's a sin to abuse your body).
Only one is the correct way. To accept both means that you think people should be allowed to destroy themselves. Well, to some extent, they should be allowed to, but if you don't tell the person that eating dirt will put some weird creatures in the person's stomach (worms, etc), that means you do not care about that person. Jesus wants us to care.
I don't recall the Bible mentioning eating dirt. The ONLY written resource to know what Jesus' taught is the New Testament other than a few short mentions by historians of that time.
When you talk about what Jesus' taught you are talking about what human understand or think Jesus taught. So don't try to give me any self righteous lectures about that. All interpretation of scripture is via human interpretation and humans are fallible beings and therefore won't always agree. That is all.
And since you seem to want to make this about me instead of interpretation of Jesus and/or what he taught it is my choice to wish you a pleasant day and move on.Well, I happen to believe I have found Christ's TRUTH. In fact, I don't just believe, I know. So call me an idiot if you want. And also, I did ask you to excuse my off the top of my head analogy of eating dirt. Maybe it's because i had a sibling who did that until told not to. But in any case, I guess I should have known you wouldn't excuse it.
Well, it is your choice if you don't want to seek absolute, objective TRUTH about Jesus.
and it is my choice to do so.
My, aren't we touchy?And since you seem to want to make this about me instead of interpretation of Jesus and/or what he taught it is my choice to wish you a pleasant day and move on.
Yes, but good is extant. Evil is not.and bad would have no reference point w/o the good
No. But choosing peace over drama and distance over disrespect is the smart choice. Again have a wonderful day.My, aren't we touchy?
must have struck a nerve
Right. Everything has to be what YOU decide it is.No. But choosing peace over drama and distance over disrespect is the smart choice. Again have a wonderful day.
meaning?Yes, but good is extant. Evil is not.
are you judging me, accusing me of being disrespectful?No. But choosing peace over drama and distance over disrespect is the smart choice. Again have a wonderful day.
Meaning evil is the absence of good like cold is the absence of heat and darkness is the absence of light. Evil, light, cold, etc. are the negation of the extant attribute.meaning?
Both look damn extant to me in this world
Oh, maybe you mean that evil will not always be with us?
