Is anybody old enough to remember?

[Indeependent]

More like you giving the Ottoman's house in Kenya to a Kenyan family.

Not really. There was no Ottomans in Kenya. There were no European Jewry in Palestine.

The connection between the Ancient Judeans and the various Europeans who adopted Judaism is tenuous at best.

I know. I'm a worshipper of Odin. I totally deserve to own my own Fjord in Norway!!!!

You're not even a good liar...there were always Jews in Israel dating back to Joshua.

 

[JoeB131]

You're not even a good liar...there were always Jews in Israel dating back to Joshua.

They why are all of Israel's leaders from Europe?

 

[Indeependent]

You're not even a good liar...there were always Jews in Israel dating back to Joshua.

They why are all of Israel's leaders from Europe?

Stop being stupid...you know full well that the Jews in Israel were prevented by the Romans and then the Polish and Russians from engaging in advanced technologies.
The Jews who were sent to Europe were the ones who had the education and technology to kick the shit out of your Arab pals.

I know full well you will ignore anything that doesn't fit your agenda.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not really. There was no Ottomans in Kenya.

There were in the Middle East. And now Israel is there.

I'm a worshipper of Odin. I totally deserve to own my own Fjord in Norway!!!!

Let me know how that works out.

 

[esalla]

Except that's not what happened.

Um, that's exactly what happened. Pre-1945, the British saw Zionism as a cheap way to establish colonists. They should have taken them back like all the other colonists after their empire collapsed. Instead, we got a big old whine of "But look what Hitler did to us!" and the UN gave the Palestine like it was theirs to give away.

It wasn't Not the British, not the UN, not the Ottomans.

Nope...The British wanted to wash their hands of any non-British nation and thus threw the Jews into an area with zero resources.
Of course, the Brits didn't realize that Jews can turn a desert into a garden.
And I'm sure you're hoping the garden gets nuked.

Dude you need help, are you saying that the Jews do not really want to be in Jerusalem

Wake up or go back to sleep but stop babbling

 

[Indeependent]

Except that's not what happened.

Um, that's exactly what happened. Pre-1945, the British saw Zionism as a cheap way to establish colonists. They should have taken them back like all the other colonists after their empire collapsed. Instead, we got a big old whine of "But look what Hitler did to us!" and the UN gave the Palestine like it was theirs to give away.

It wasn't Not the British, not the UN, not the Ottomans.

Nope...The British wanted to wash their hands of any non-British nation and thus threw the Jews into an area with zero resources.
Of course, the Brits didn't realize that Jews can turn a desert into a garden.
And I'm sure you're hoping the garden gets nuked.

Dude you need help, are you saying that the Jews do not really want to be in Jerusalem

Wake up or go back to sleep but stop babbling

What the hell are you talking about?
The Brits did not allow Jews into Israel for a very long time.
If Israel had oil, The Brits would never allow the Jews in.
I admire the way you tried to turn that around.

 

[esalla]

Except that's not what happened.

Um, that's exactly what happened. Pre-1945, the British saw Zionism as a cheap way to establish colonists. They should have taken them back like all the other colonists after their empire collapsed. Instead, we got a big old whine of "But look what Hitler did to us!" and the UN gave the Palestine like it was theirs to give away.

It wasn't Not the British, not the UN, not the Ottomans.

Nope...The British wanted to wash their hands of any non-British nation and thus threw the Jews into an area with zero resources.
Of course, the Brits didn't realize that Jews can turn a desert into a garden.
And I'm sure you're hoping the garden gets nuked.

Dude you need help, are you saying that the Jews do not really want to be in Jerusalem

Wake up or go back to sleep but stop babbling

What the hell are you talking about?
The Brits did not allow Jews into Israel for a very long time.
If Israel had oil, The Brits would never allow the Jews in.
I admire the way you tried to turn that around.

LOL it's all the brits fault, and the Egyptians and the germans and the rest of the arabs.

Look inward, if you dare see ugly that is

 

[Kondor3]

Have you seen - on a map - what remains of Arab-controlled land within the former so-called 'Palestine' ???

There isn't enough contiguous land left for them to blow their noses without bumping into another 2nd or 3rd -generation squatter.

 

[JoeB131]

Stop being stupid...you know full well that the Jews in Israel were prevented by the Romans and then the Polish and Russians from engaging in advanced technologies.
The Jews who were sent to Europe were the ones who had the education and technology to kick the shit out of your Arab pals.

YOu mean after the west armed them and disarmed the Arabs....

The thing is, the Zionist Entity hasn't won a war since 1967 without needing the west to bail them out.

 

[Indeependent]

Stop being stupid...you know full well that the Jews in Israel were prevented by the Romans and then the Polish and Russians from engaging in advanced technologies.
The Jews who were sent to Europe were the ones who had the education and technology to kick the shit out of your Arab pals.

YOu mean after the west armed them and disarmed the Arabs....

The thing is, the Zionist Entity hasn't won a war since 1967 without needing the west to bail them out.

Thanks for admitting the West is smart enough to side with civilized people who don’t behead people for fun.

You can thank President Lyndon B Johnson for stopping Israel from taking over their 5 neighbors after the 6 Day War.
The US owes Israel big time.

As I’ve posted before, your history sucks.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Have you seen - on a map - what remains of Arab-controlled land within the former so-called 'Palestine' ???

There isn't enough contiguous land left for them to blow their noses without bumping into another 2nd or 3rd -generation squatter.

Yeah, they really messed up, didn't they.

 

[rylah]

So let me understand - instead of answering a simple question by Dogmaphobe,
the thread went straight offtopic to the typical "fake Jews" none sense...

Here's the question - if Dogmaphobe didn't actually say he denies anyone's rights to live in the land, correct me if I'm wrong, why evade the question and the need to overcompensate so much if he wasn't correct?

If simply answering "yes" doesn't negate rights,
why the need to go to such extremes?

If mere recognition of facts automatically assumed a total defeat,
what does it say about the underlying assumption of the Arab narrative?

 

[JoeB131]

Thanks for admitting the West is smart enough to side with civilized people who don’t behead people for fun.

You can thank President Lyndon B Johnson for stopping Israel from taking over their 5 neighbors after the 6 Day War.
The US owes Israel big time.

Wow, you guys are delusional. You Zionists can't keep a Lid on 6 million Palestinians, you'd have been really screwed if you had to babysit tens of millions of Egyptians and Syrians.

 

[rylah]

Thanks for admitting the West is smart enough to side with civilized people who don’t behead people for fun.

You can thank President Lyndon B Johnson for stopping Israel from taking over their 5 neighbors after the 6 Day War.
The US owes Israel big time.

Wow, you guys are delusional. You Zionists can't keep a Lid on 6 million Palestinians, you'd have been really screwed if you had to babysit tens of millions of Egyptians and Syrians.

Why the need to resort to this typical whataboutism none sense,
instead of actually addressing the question of the thread?

 

[Indeependent]

Thanks for admitting the West is smart enough to side with civilized people who don’t behead people for fun.

You can thank President Lyndon B Johnson for stopping Israel from taking over their 5 neighbors after the 6 Day War.
The US owes Israel big time.

Wow, you guys are delusional. You Zionists can't keep a Lid on 6 million Palestinians, you'd have been really screwed if you had to babysit tens of millions of Egyptians and Syrians.

You prefer Jews keep a lid on Arabs the way the Arabs kept a lid on the Jews by stealing our assets and expelling is?
I agree!

 

[Indeependent]

Thanks for admitting the West is smart enough to side with civilized people who don’t behead people for fun.

You can thank President Lyndon B Johnson for stopping Israel from taking over their 5 neighbors after the 6 Day War.
The US owes Israel big time.

Wow, you guys are delusional. You Zionists can't keep a Lid on 6 million Palestinians, you'd have been really screwed if you had to babysit tens of millions of Egyptians and Syrians.

Why the need to resort to this typical whataboutism none sense,
instead of actually addressing the question of the thread?

You want JoeB to post in-context?
Are you on drugs?

 

[JoeB131]

Why the need to resort to this typical whataboutism none sense,
instead of actually addressing the question of the thread?

I don't know, Independent was babbling about how the Arabs should be happy the Zionists didn't conquer them all.

Reality- the Zionists haven't won a war with America bailing them out since 1967.

 

[JoeB131]

You prefer Jews keep a lid on Arabs the way the Arabs kept a lid on the Jews by stealing our assets and expelling is?
I agree!

Actually, what I want is my country to stop putting Zionist fantasies above American interests.

 

[Indeependent]

You prefer Jews keep a lid on Arabs the way the Arabs kept a lid on the Jews by stealing our assets and expelling is?
I agree!

Actually, what I want is my country to stop putting Zionist fantasies above American interests.

Elaborate...

 

[Indeependent]

Why the need to resort to this typical whataboutism none sense,
instead of actually addressing the question of the thread?

I don't know, Independent was babbling about how the Arabs should be happy the Zionists didn't conquer them all.

Reality- the Zionists haven't won a war with America bailing them out since 1967.

Once again, history revisionist, tell that to Lyndon B Johnson.