Zone1 Proof of God by Sir Anthony Flew

[ChemEngineer]

"If nature were indeed the result of chance, then it might happen that by chance, on some particular level, the evolved human mind could be able to make some intellectual headway in discerning the secrets of nature. But what we find - and what makes science possible as a successful, cumulative activity sustained over many centuries - is that nature is strangely amenable to rational inquiry or multiple, integrated levels, and especially on far more abstract levels than natural selection tied merely to survival or sexual selection could provide.

Even stranger, nature seems to be designed tutorially, so that humans are able to "read the book of nature" beginning with very simple concepts that bear unsuspected intellectual fruit, and which therefore allow for further discovery using more sophisticated concepts, and so on as scientists plumb its successive depths. This makes one suspicious not only that nature is intelligently written, but that it was written to be read by human beings with just the kind of capabilities they happen to have. In Pope Benedict's words, there is a profound "correspondence between our spirit and the prevailing rational structure of nature," a correspondence between mind and thing on every level of nature. That this correspondence is given in nature, and not contrived merely by human art, is what makes science a meaningful, successful activity." - Page 84 (2007)

 

[DGS49]

Fear of the Lord is a quality that is sadly lacking in our society. Basically, it means that one accepts the fact that there is a higher power, there is a real Right & Wrong, and we are ultimately responsible for the life we lead.

Leftists actively oppose all three things.

 

[frigidweirdo]

"If nature were indeed the result of chance, then it might happen that by chance, on some particular level, the evolved human mind could be able to make some intellectual headway in discerning the secrets of nature. But what we find - and what makes science possible as a successful, cumulative activity sustained over many centuries - is that nature is strangely amenable to rational inquiry or multiple, integrated levels, and especially on far more abstract levels than natural selection tied merely to survival or sexual selection could provide.

Even stranger, nature seems to be designed tutorially, so that humans are able to "read the book of nature" beginning with very simple concepts that bear unsuspected intellectual fruit, and which therefore allow for further discovery using more sophisticated concepts, and so on as scientists plumb its successive depths. This makes one suspicious not only that nature is intelligently written, but that it was written to be read by human beings with just the kind of capabilities they happen to have. In Pope Benedict's words, there is a profound "correspondence between our spirit and the prevailing rational structure of nature," a correspondence between mind and thing on every level of nature. That this correspondence is given in nature, and not contrived merely by human art, is what makes science a meaningful, successful activity." - Page 84 (2007)

It's like proving that apples exist by showing a picture of Jupiter.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Fear of the Lord is a quality that is sadly lacking in our society. Basically, it means that one accepts the fact that there is a higher power, there is a real Right & Wrong, and we are ultimately responsible for the life we lead.

Leftists actively oppose all three things.

Yeah, fear of a non-existent being is lacking in a society where people can think for themselves. What a surprise.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Yeah, fear of a non-existent being is lacking in a society where people can think for themselves. What a surprise.

They can think for themselves but have you seen a great deal of thinking in society? G-d humbles a man. The become arrogance and evil in the absence of G-d.

 

[frigidweirdo]

They can think for themselves but have you seen a great deal of thinking in society? G-d humbles a man. The become arrogance and evil in the absence of G-d.

A lot of people don't like thinking, and for some, religion is great because they're told how to think by vicar, pastors, priests, imams, and whatever other titles there are for the same job.

 

[SaxonJackson]

When we open the hood of a Corvette, we see a complex engine. We know instinctively that the engine was designed. Each component of the engine plays a vital role in the functionality of the engine, as a whole. Remove the battery -- the engine fails. Remove the alternator -- the engine fails. Remove the oil pan -- the engine fails. Etc.

Far more complex than an engine is the human cell or a functional eyeball or the human body. Yet a certain percentage of human beings believe those miraculous machines just exist as a result of chaos, chance, and dumb luck.

 

[PeterPilot]

A lot of people don't like thinking, and for some, religion is great because they're told how to think by vicar, pastors, priests, imams, and whatever other titles there are for the same job.

Jefferson presumably said: "My opinion is that there would never have been an infidel if there had never been a priest. In every country and every age the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."

 

[ChemEngineer]

When we thank God, when we pray to Him, when we praise Him, we are blessing Him.
Not because He “needs” anything, but because love freely given is the one gift a human can offer that rises to Him as a blessing.

Let me show you why this is not only correct — it’s deeply biblical.

1. In Scripture, humans do bless God
The Psalms say it outright:

“Bless the Lord, O my soul” (Psalm 103)

“I will bless the Lord at all times” (Psalm 34)

Jews have said Baruch Atah Adonai — “Blessed are You, Lord” — for thousands of years.
Christians inherited that same posture.

So the idea that humans bless God is not poetic; it’s foundational.

2. What does it mean to “bless” God?
Not giving Him something He lacks.
Not elevating Him higher than He already is.

It means:

Acknowledging His goodness

Loving Him freely

Obeying His commandments

Offering gratitude

Praising His name

These are the things that delight Him — and anything that delights God is, by definition, a blessing.

3. This is something most people never notice:

Jesus asked John to bless Him through baptism.

John resisted.
Jesus insisted.
And Matthew 3:15 explains why: “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness.”

That moment is God saying:

“Yes, a human can bless Me — and I welcome it.”

I discovered the connection.

4. So when you thank Him, pray to Him, praise Him — yes, you bless Him
Every time you say:

“Thank You, Father”

“Bless You, God”

“I love You”

“Guide me”

“Comfort my loved ones"

You are offering Him something that rises like incense.

You’re blessing Him in the only way a human can:
with love, trust, obedience, and gratitude.