Zone1 In what ways is antisemitism “cloaked” as being against “just” Israel?

[ShahdagMountains]

 

[Churchill]

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That's because the perpetual monarchies (with whom Israel wants to normalize relations) that run nations like Saudi Arabia have criminalized Christianity and Judaism and because European Jews started coloninzing Palestine 100 years ago where millions of Arabs already lived.

You should read some books, get a better understanding of all this history before you post such childish drivel.

You're welcome.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

That's because the perpetual monarchies (with whom Israel wants to normalize relations) that run nations like Saudi Arabia have criminalized Christianity and Judaism and because European Jews started coloninzing Palestine 100 years ago where millions of Arabs already lived.

You should read some books, get a better understanding of all this history before you post such childish drivel.

You're welcome.

You use the term "colonize" as a dishonest framing device. There was no colonization. Jewish people have lived on the land in uninterrupted fashion for over 3000 years.

What kind of word do you think Jerusalem is,anyway?

 

[ShahdagMountains]

That's because the perpetual monarchies (with whom Israel wants to normalize relations) that run nations like Saudi Arabia have criminalized Christianity and Judaism and because European Jews started coloninzing Palestine 100 years ago where millions of Arabs already lived.

You should read some books, get a better understanding of all this history before you post such childish drivel.

You're welcome.

If you don’t like my posts, don’t read them.

Simple.

 

[Robert W]

You and your constant one sided blaming of Democrats for everything - booooring and false as well.

Russia allowed for Jews to escape okay, and who was willing to take them??

Arkady Factorovich, a man I talked to a lot when he lived came to the USA for instance explained to me how he as a Jew in the Soviet Army managed to end up in Fremont, CA and worked as a architect. He never told me all the countries he could have gone to, but he was in California when I knew him. This was not very long either when the Soviets let the Jews escape from the Soviet Union.

Tea Party Rally Against IRS Practices

Members of Congress joined with tea party activists in an "Audit the IRS" rally at the West Front of the Capitol, to protest alleged abuses by the Internal Revenue Service. The opening speeches for the rally are on program 313449-101 and the opening ceremonies are on program 313449-102.

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I spent 42 years being loyal to Democrats. I was one who did not really understand at that time the party I was a member of. Finally, Democrats crossed a line that I was not pleased with, so I quit that party.

 

[Churchill]

If you don’t like my posts, don’t read them.

Simple.

How can I decide whether I like a post or not until I read it? You make posts in a public dicussion forum that are (to be polite) questionable then expect those who disagree with you, to reply, that's what the forum is for.

Rather that throw a tantrum you could argue your case but you never do, is that because you don't really have the capacity to argue a case?

If you want to post without being challenged then start a blog.

 

[Churchill]

You use the term "colonize" as a dishonest framing device. There was no colonization. Jewish people have lived on the land in uninterrupted fashion for over 3000 years.

You don't understand many of the terms used in these discussions and I don't have time to educate you.

What kind of word do you think Jerusalem is,anyway?

Erm, a word beginning with "J" ?

 

[Robert W]

Looks like Israel is thriving growing stronger and Muslims are now against Iran. Trump has changed the balance of power in the Middle East in support of moderate Arabs and Israel.

We notice, don't we, that Jew haters always use Zionism to try to mask their hate for the Jews.

 

[Churchill]

We notice, don't we, that Jew haters always use Zionism to try to mask their hate for the Jews.

Zionism is a form of antisemtism, it does great harm to apolitical Jews.

Iranian Synagogue 'Completely Destroyed,' Reportedly By US-Israeli Airstrike | Common Dreams

The representative for Iran's Jewish community in Parliament said Israel "showed no mercy... during the Jewish holidays and attacked one of our ancient and holy synagogues."

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[ShahdagMountains]

Zionism is a form of antisemtism, it does great harm to apolitical Jews.

Iranian Synagogue 'Completely Destroyed,' Reportedly By US-Israeli Airstrike | Common Dreams

The representative for Iran's Jewish community in Parliament said Israel "showed no mercy... during the Jewish holidays and attacked one of our ancient and holy synagogues."

www.commondreams.org

You don’t even know the meaning of the word.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

There is no insulting in the CDZ. Discuss the topic like adults ( a tall order, I know) or move on to another topic.

 

[Hafar1014]

So Saudi Arabia is "moderate" in your world? A country that has outlawed Christian Churches and Jewish Synagogues with serious punishment for those who express their religious views?

But Iran meanwhile is "extreme" despite having 99 synagogues (the Zionists destroyed one yesterday) and 600 Churches and one of the largest Jewish communities in the Middle East?

You're delusional, you've bought into the idea that your salvation depends on your loyal support to Zionism, no matter how evil its acts, despite the fact that Zionism is a form of antisemitism.

What a sad spectacle you are.

No its simpler I dont support religious fanatics who are violent to have nuclear weapons. I guess thats too complex for you

 

[Churchill]

So tell is why you support violent crazy religious fanatics using a nuclear weapon

I don't support the state of Israel, I already told you that.

 

[Hafar1014]

I don't support the state of Israel, I already told you that.

They dont need your support but by default you support Iran who kills its ownb people hides behind its iown children as shields and has an offensive nuclear policiy. Even Russia doesnt think like that

 

[Churchill]

They dont need your support but by default you support Iran who kills its ownb people hides behind its iown children as shields and has an offensive nuclear policiy. Even Russia doesnt think like that

Why do you support the zionist regime? why do you even care about it?

I think I know, its because you've been deceived into belieiving your salvation depends upon it. Like so many fake Christians you have used your selfish desire to be saved to justify supporting pure evil.

Had you read your Bible and prayed rather than abrogating responsibility and swallowing the bullshit espoused by the far right fake Christians, you might understand but you chose to believe a delusion.

Here that delusuon was even prophisized in 2 Thessalonians:

You get pleasure from unrighteousness, just as it was predicted, the irony.

The State of Israel is not what you think it is, the Zionist regime does not represent what you think it does, countless Jews have been saying this for decades, but you despise truth and love lies because of selfishness.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Bullshit. The US already took in half the Jews on the planet. Your idiocy is boundless. There are hundreds of countries in the world, none of which made any offers to take them in, but you clown snivel as if only the US is obligated to about all of the world's unwanted masses. They wouldn't have gone to Israel if the asshole Poles and Ukrainians had let them return home instead of murdering them when they left the camps and tried to return. Two years after the war was over, and still in camps? Yeah they were tired of it by then. The Arabs certainly weren't selfless hippies, just feral savage bandits, and pro-Nazi to boot. **** you and your fake scumbag stories.

Much of Jordan’s population is Palestinian and Syrian refugees. Jordan has done a lot more to help out with refugees than Israel.

During World War II, millions of Muslims fought for the Allied forces. About 200,000 Muslims fought for the axis power.

A lot of your responses are “your dumb”. “fake” or you try to respond with something other than personal attacks but it’s filled with misinformation. I mean, look at here specifically you’re misinformation about Arabs and Nazis.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Hm. Doesn't appear that ''clean debate'' is the intent in scope here, given quite a bit of the usual combative, antagonistic and inflammatory accusations invoked in synergy and directed toward other forum usership by the historical purveyors, observably, of that routine in these supposed ''clean debate'' / Zone 1 threads.

I'm reminded of the recently invoked ''misuse of clean debate'' charge in the feedbsck section, since starting these threads in the 'clean debate'' zone and then proceeding to take them in an antithetical direction with such blatantly non-conforming dialogue demonstrates intellectually dishonest intent. And that's not even considering the violations themselves. My goodness. The humorous irony of it all is humorous..

I tell ya. Some people...

Reported.

Do better, please.

Not everyone wants to wallow in mud. Otherwise there's no logic in even maintaining a ''clean debate'' section of the board.

Thanks!


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It’s truly bottom of the barrel miserable behavior.

Criticize a foreign government and you get called

“Joo hater”
“Nazi”
“Muslim”

Control and intimidation of those who do not share your hatred of Jews.

Wild^ this poster falsely accuses people of being “Muslim liars” while accusing others of hate… Incredible just incredible. You can’t make this stuff up.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Much of Jordan’s population is Palestinian and Syrian refugees. Jordan has done a lot more to help out with refugees than Israel.

During World War II, millions of Muslims fought for the Allied forces. About 200,000 Muslims fought for the axis power.

A lot of your responses are “your dumb”. “fake” or filled with misinformation. I mean, look at here specifically you’re misinformation about Arabs and Nazis.

Not only was Raj al Husseini working directly for the Nazis but was a blood relative of the Egyptian terrorist who changed his name to Yasser Arafat.

Oh, and although English may be your second language, it would behoove you to learn the difference between "your" and "you're".

 

[Dogmaphobe]

It’s truly bottom of the barrel miserable behavior.

Criticize a foreign government and you get called

“Joo hater”
“Nazi”
“Muslim”

Wild^ this poster falsely accuses people of being “Muslim liars” while accusing others of hate… Incredible just incredible. You can’t make this stuff up.

While it is certainly flattering that Natural Citizen has chosen me for all his tattling needs, the issue is not one of mere criticism of a government but the singular preoccupation with demonizing a small minority.

 

[Robert W]

Indeed I might too vote for a Jew in this country and probably have, maybe even not knowing so. That has nothing to do with how I feel about Israel and its government.

I believe part of what Israel will do is to rebuild Gaza. Meaning that the Arabs will live in brand new apartments and homes.