Zone1 If Jesus Was A Jew

[irosie91]

It's like you are trying to be wrong. Amazing skills. Keep guessing.

He's doing a good job

 

[kjw47]

Thats what you were told but that is not the truth. 99% of the people on earth reject your bullshit.

Thats good news dude!

All who have read the whole bible see this fact= 99% mislead throughout. Jesus compares these last days to Noahs day( 99.9%) mislead then)Luke 17:26)-- I speak truth not bs. This is how 99% are seeing=2Cor 4:4

 

[irosie91]

in 1508 Ponce Deleon arrived in Puerto Rico with 1500 Jewish people fleeing the inquisition and they settled in the mountains and became known as Jibaros, pronounced Hebaros/Hebrews.

then the conquistadores brought the Inquisition to the Americas---In
the Americas--that filth impacted mostly on the native americans---the
jews got away from most of it by "looking white"

 

[SweetSue92]

Everyone who recognizes their wrongdoing and atones for their sins. Gd is very forgiving.

I know that's the Jewish outlook, I'm asking MW

 

[SweetSue92]

Jesus taught, Repentance for the forgiveness of sins.

Yes, for WHOM?

How does one get this repentence?

 

[irosie91]

Jesus taught, Repentance for the forgiveness of sins.

Jesus taught the Jewish--and more specifically, the PHARISEE POV---
because Jesus was a Pharisee

 

[zaangalewa]

then the conquistadores brought the Inquisition to the Americas ...

What's totally bullshit. The clerics of the Holy Church continuously attacked the conquistadores for their brutal behavior in front of the king of Spain while they themselves tried to change the social status of the "pagan animals" (conquistadores) to "chilren of god" = human beings.

The crimes of the USA are by the way in another way in this context. You murdered most Red Indians centuries later in the "modern" (spoken 'murderous') 19th century. Main instrument to do so: rapid fire rifles. After world war 1+2 you started to glorify this bullshit and today you suffer a very weird form of weapon fetishism: More guns than inhabitants.

 

[irosie91]

What's totally bullshit. The clerics of the Holy Church conrinously attacked the conquistadores for their brutal behaviotr in front of the king of Spain while they themselves tried to change the social status of the "pagan animals" (conquistadores) to "chilren opf god" = human beings.

The crimes of the USA are by the way in another way in this context. You murdered most Red Indians centuries later in the "modern" 19th century.

Which "king of Spain" was that?----you are confused "the pagan animals" in the eyes of the Catholic Church were the native americans---not the
conquistadores. What do you imagine that DA POPE was apologizing for in
Canada? (over the dead bodies of lots of confiscated native american children) Yes----lots of "red indians" dies due to USA abuse----different issue----sorta----a left over from the Inquisition ethos. Do you know who
invented the concept of the OCTROON?

 

[zaangalewa]

... According to a ruling, issued by the Vatican - to attribute the respective gender allocation of the holy spirit via the respective language and it's grammar - stressing that God is to be addressed as a male.
Only Hebrews and Aramaic dialects results to God's spirit being feminine. ...

And Hildegard von Bingen when she said "God is not only our father - god is also our mother." (Translation into a more modern way: "God is not only our creator - he also cares for us now"). If you do not know: The highest rank in the Holy Church is to be a teacher of the Church. Hildegard von Bingen (1098-1179 AD) is such a teacher of the Church.

 

[irosie91]

And Hildegard von Bingen when she said "God is not only our father - god is also our mother." (Translation into a more modern way: "God is not only our creator - he also cares for us now"). If you do not know: The highest rank in the Holy Church is to be a teacher of the Church. Hildegard von Bingen (1098-1179 AD) is such a teacher of the Church.

oh---how nice---she wasn't burned at the stake----WATTTA SLIP-UP

 

[zaangalewa]

Which "king of Spain" was that? ...

Take a serios history book. Believe only half of this what is written there and start to study history by trying to find out what's really true.

 

[zaangalewa]

oh---how nice---she wasn't burned at the stake----WATTTA SLIP-UP

She had been an authority who was able to criticize everyone including all bishops and even including the emperor. Your new future president Donald Trump would burn her on a stake. Donald Trump is by the way such an idiot that he speaks even nonsense and bullshit about the history which had happened during his own lifetime.

 

[irosie91]

Take a serios history book. Believe only half of this what is written there and start to study history by trying to find out what's really true.

oh---you don't know-----you didn't even supply a date---just KING OF SPAIN----did you know that KING FERDINAND had a reputation for being
SO STUPID---that the artist who made the death figure to place on top of
his coffin placed the head of the bronze figure on a bronze pillow---but the
pillow showed no indentation where the head rested thereupon----indicating that the HEAD WAS EMPTY ? Is the Vatican still considering the CANONIZATION of good queen Isabella?

 

[irosie91]

She had been an authority who was abelot cotocize everyone including the emperor. You new future president Donald Trump would burn ehr ion a stake. Donaödl Trump ios by the way siucvh annmsditoe that he speak even nonsense and bullshit about the history which had happened during his own lifetime.

to which version of history do you refer?

 

[zaangalewa]

Information:

Gyburc speaks to the highest nobles of the Holy Empire:

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Bevor der Fürstenrat wieder auseinandergeht, bittet Giburg darum, ein paar abschließende Worte an die Versammelten richten zu dürfen.

„Wer Anstand und ein Herz hat, der höre mich an!“, beginnt sie ernst. „Das große Sterben auf beiden Seiten hat mir den Hass der Christen und der Heiden eingetragen. Wenn es meine Schuld ist, soll Gott mich richten! Die römischen Fürsten möchte ich dazu ermahnen, das Ansehen des Christentums zu mehren. Aber hört auch auf die Lehre einer ungelehrten Frau: Schont alle Geschöpfe Gottes! Der erste Mensch, den Gott erschuf, war ein Heide. Auch Noah in der Arche war ein Heide und er rettete ihn doch. Nehmt die heiligen drei Könige, auch sie waren Heiden. Trotzdem hat Gott noch an der Mutterbrust von ihnen die ersten Gaben angenommen. Nicht alle Heiden sind verdammt! Wir wissen, dass alle Kinder von Eva an als Heiden auf die Welt kommen, auch wenn sie ein getaufter Schoß umschlossen hat – ihre Leibesfrucht ist noch ungetauft, also heidnisch. Die Juden haben eine besondere Art der Taufe, die vollziehen sie mit einem Schnitt. Wir waren doch alle einmal Heiden!“

Die Männer in der Kapelle lauschen angespannt, einige schauen betreten auf den Boden. Doch unerschrocken fährt Giburg mit ihrer Rede fort: „Was euch auch die Heiden angetan haben, bedenkt, dass Gott selbst bereit war, seinen Mördern zu vergeben. Wenn er euch jetzt im Kampf siegen lässt, dann habt wie er Erbarmen! Ich diene nicht dem Heidengott Tervagant, sondern Gottes helfender, kunstreicher Hand. Ihre Kraft hat mich von Mohammed weg zur Taufe gebracht. Das hat mir den Hass meiner Verwandten und den Hass der Christen zugezogen, weil beide meinen, ich hätte es der Wolllust wegen gemacht, und so den Krieg verursacht. Die Wahrheit ist: Ich habe selber Liebe und großen Reichtum dort zurück gelassen, schöne Kinder von einem Mann, von dem ich nicht behaupten kann, dass er jemals Unrecht tat, seit ich die Krone von ihm empfing. Tibalt von Arabien trägt keine Schuld, die trage ganz alleine ich! Es ging mir um die Gunst des Allmächtigen und auch um den Markgrafen, der soviel Ruhm erworben hat. Glaubt mir, mit dem Tod eurer Verwandten starb mein Glück.“
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Before the Council of Princes disperses again, Giburg asks to be allowed to say a few final words to those assembled.

“Whoever has decency and a heart, listen to me!” she begins seriously. “The great dying on both sides has earned me the hatred of the Christians and the pagans. If it is my fault, let God judge me! I would like to exhort the Roman princes to increase the reputation of Christianity. But also listen to the teaching of an unlearned woman: spare all God's creatures! The first man God created was a heathen. Noah in the ark was also a heathen and yet he saved him. Take the Magi, they were also pagans. Nevertheless, God accepted the first gifts from them while they were still in the womb. Not all Gentiles are condemned! We know that all children are born as pagans from Eve onwards, even if they are enclosed in a baptized womb - their wombs are still unbaptized, i.e. pagan. The Jews have a special kind of baptism, which they perform with a cut. We were all pagans once!”

The men in the chapel listen tensely, some look down at the floor. But undaunted, Giburg continues her speech: “Whatever the pagans have done to you, remember that God himself was ready to forgive his murderers. If he lets you win in battle now, then have mercy like him! I do not serve the pagan god Tervagant, but God's helping, skillful hand. Its power has brought me away from Mohammed to baptism. This has earned me the hatred of my relatives and the hatred of the Christians, because both think that I did it for the sake of lust and thus caused the war. The truth is: I left love and great wealth there myself, beautiful children from a man who I cannot say has ever done wrong since I received the crown from him. Tibalt of Arabia is not to blame, that is entirely my fault! I was concerned with the favor of the Almighty and also with the margrave who has gained so much fame. Believe me, my happiness died with the death of your relatives.”
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Wolfram von Eschenbach (12th century)

 

[zaangalewa]

irosie91

Start to take yourselve serios, anti-Christian.

 

[irosie91]

Information:

Gyburc speaks to the highest nobles of the Holy Empire:

------
Bevor der Fürstenrat wieder auseinandergeht, bittet Giburg darum, ein paar abschließende Worte an die Versammelten richten zu dürfen.

„Wer Anstand und ein Herz hat, der höre mich an!“, beginnt sie ernst. „Das große Sterben auf beiden Seiten hat mir den Hass der Christen und der Heiden eingetragen. Wenn es meine Schuld ist, soll Gott mich richten! Die römischen Fürsten möchte ich dazu ermahnen, das Ansehen des Christentums zu mehren. Aber hört auch auf die Lehre einer ungelehrten Frau: Schont alle Geschöpfe Gottes! Der erste Mensch, den Gott erschuf, war ein Heide. Auch Noah in der Arche war ein Heide und er rettete ihn doch. Nehmt die heiligen drei Könige, auch sie waren Heiden. Trotzdem hat Gott noch an der Mutterbrust von ihnen die ersten Gaben angenommen. Nicht alle Heiden sind verdammt! Wir wissen, dass alle Kinder von Eva an als Heiden auf die Welt kommen, auch wenn sie ein getaufter Schoß umschlossen hat – ihre Leibesfrucht ist noch ungetauft, also heidnisch. Die Juden haben eine besondere Art der Taufe, die vollziehen sie mit einem Schnitt. Wir waren doch alle einmal Heiden!“

Die Männer in der Kapelle lauschen angespannt, einige schauen betreten auf den Boden. Doch unerschrocken fährt Giburg mit ihrer Rede fort: „Was euch auch die Heiden angetan haben, bedenkt, dass Gott selbst bereit war, seinen Mördern zu vergeben. Wenn er euch jetzt im Kampf siegen lässt, dann habt wie er Erbarmen! Ich diene nicht dem Heidengott Tervagant, sondern Gottes helfender, kunstreicher Hand. Ihre Kraft hat mich von Mohammed weg zur Taufe gebracht. Das hat mir den Hass meiner Verwandten und den Hass der Christen zugezogen, weil beide meinen, ich hätte es der Wolllust wegen gemacht, und so den Krieg verursacht. Die Wahrheit ist: Ich habe selber Liebe und großen Reichtum dort zurück gelassen, schöne Kinder von einem Mann, von dem ich nicht behaupten kann, dass er jemals Unrecht tat, seit ich die Krone von ihm empfing. Tibalt von Arabien trägt keine Schuld, die trage ganz alleine ich! Es ging mir um die Gunst des Allmächtigen und auch um den Markgrafen, der soviel Ruhm erworben hat. Glaubt mir, mit dem Tod eurer Verwandten starb mein Glück.“
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Before the Council of Princes disperses again, Giburg asks to be allowed to say a few final words to those assembled.

“Whoever has decency and a heart, listen to me!” she begins seriously. “The great dying on both sides has earned me the hatred of the Christians and the pagans. If it is my fault, let God judge me! I would like to exhort the Roman princes to increase the reputation of Christianity. But also listen to the teaching of an unlearned woman: spare all God's creatures! The first man God created was a heathen. Noah in the ark was also a heathen and yet he saved him. Take the Magi, they were also pagans. Nevertheless, God accepted the first gifts from them while they were still in the womb. Not all Gentiles are condemned! We know that all children are born as pagans from Eve onwards, even if they are enclosed in a baptized womb - their wombs are still unbaptized, i.e. pagan. The Jews have a special kind of baptism, which they perform with a cut. We were all pagans once!”

The men in the chapel listen tensely, some look down at the floor. But undaunted, Giburg continues her speech: “Whatever the pagans have done to you, remember that God himself was ready to forgive his murderers. If he lets you win in battle now, then have mercy like him! I do not serve the pagan god Tervagant, but God's helping, skillful hand. Its power has brought me away from Mohammed to baptism. This has earned me the hatred of my relatives and the hatred of the Christians, because both think that I did it for the sake of lust and thus caused the war. The truth is: I left love and great wealth there myself, beautiful children from a man who I cannot say has ever done wrong since I received the crown from him. Tibalt of Arabia is not to blame, that is entirely my fault! I was concerned with the favor of the Almighty and also with the margrave who has gained so much fame. Believe me, my happiness died with the death of your relatives.”
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Wolfram von Eschenbach (12th century)

so??? ----there are always exceptions that PROVE THE RULE PS---forget
the German---the only german I ever read that I understood was BERTOLT
BRECHT (and a touch of Kafka)----but that was some 60 years ago

 

[zaangalewa]

The different standards are one for men and a different one for women.

1 public toilette for men and 3 public toiletts for women during an open air concert? "Equality" needs it also to make differences.

 

[irosie91]

1 public toilette for men and 3 public toiletts for women during an open air concert? "Equality" needs it also to make differences.

I have four brothers ----and just one me----They could play in the fields and woods all day----I was TIED TO THE "facility" back home. NOT FAIR!!!!!!!

 

[zaangalewa]

so??? ----there are always exceptions that PROVE THE RULE ...

You are just simple a stupid exception who doesn't like to do the hard job to learn something because you are anyway allknowing.