Zone1 If Jesus Was A Jew

[zaangalewa]

I have four brothers ----and just one me----They could play in the fields and woods all day----I was TIED TO THE "facility" back home. NOT FAIR!!!!!!!

Do you like to say you are a woman?

 

[irosie91]

You are just simple a stupid exception who doesn't like to do the hard job to learn something because you are anyway allknowing.

so far I have learned nothing from you. Would you like to learn THE KREBS
CYCLE?

 

[irosie91]

Do you like to say you are a woman?

I was a girl back then

 

[zaangalewa]

the only german I ever read that I understood was BERTOLT
BRECHT

A good author but also a slave of the Sowiet regime on his own free will.

 

[zaangalewa]

I was a girl back then

Do you like to say you was a girl once and now you are no woman?

 

[zaangalewa]

so far I have learned nothing from you. ...

I'm no teacher. If you like to learn ask god what he likes to teach you. Now is Christmas tide. I'm sure there is something to learn for you now.

 

[irosie91]

A good author but also a slave of the Sowiet regime on his own free will

yes---very pro-communist or at least MARXIST

 

[irosie91]

I'm no teacher. If you like to learn ask god what he likes to teach you. Now is Christmas tide. I'm sure there is something to learn for you now.

the first eve of Chanukah falls on January 25 this year. now you learned
something

 

[zaangalewa]

yes---very pro-communist or at least MARXIST

I do not know how Berthold Brecht really thought. Why do you tell me this?

 

[irosie91]

I do not know how Berthold Brecht really thought. Why do you tell me this?

He revealed himself in his stories---more or less

 

[zaangalewa]

the first eve of Chanukah falls on January 25 this year. now you learned
something

Never any Jew was respectless in my presence. So you are no Jew.

 

[zaangalewa]

He revealed himself in his stories---more or less

What do you like to say to me?

A poem of Berthold Brecht for example had been:

----
Später, im Herbst
Hausen in den Silberpappeln große Schwärme von Krähen
Aber den ganzen Sommer durch höre ich
Da die Gegend vogellos ist
Nur Laute von Menschen rührend.
Ich bins zufrieden.
-----
Later, in the fall
Large flocks of crows live in the silver poplars
But throughout the summer I hear
Since the area is birdless
Only sounds of people stirring.
I am content.
-----

No idea why he wrote this. Sounds stupid in my ears. All around me always sing birds because I feed them. What he wrote reminds me to the Birkenau (=meadow of the birchs) in Auschwitz where indeed no birds sang - once - in this time which had been a timeless horror. But his horror is only a stitching plaster: "Kinkerlitzchen ungepresst in keinen Reimen" I would say (= "Odds and ends unpressed in no rhymes").

 

[zaangalewa]

@irosie91

Why do you try to speak in the name of Jews? You are no Jew! And what has Berthold Brecht to do with what in your view to the world?

 

[Meriweather]

Jesus taught the Jewish--and more specifically, the PHARISEE POV---
because Jesus was a Pharisee

I get that you are absolutely, cemented solidly, in your belief of this as you say it often enough. It's kind of like today...if one overlooks the differences, it can be said all Democrats are Republicans. While there were the major sects of Judaism in Jesus' time, there were also the minor ones that were lost in history. One these were the Nazareans--an offshoot of the Essenes, who were an opposition group of the Pharisees. In modern political terms, Jesus was more an Independent who went his own way. He was very much in favor of the teachings of Pharisees, but he also felt when it came to practice, they often missed the boat. What Jesus said about end times was more in line with Essene teaching than Pharisee teachings, especially the aspect of Essenes accusing Pharisees of not adhering to the full intent of the Law.

Where Jesus differed from the Essenes in his public life, is that that the Essenes were more ascetic and withdrew from society, whereas Jesus was definitely more social, and seemingly not as austere when it came to eating and drinking.

We just might both agree that Jesus was deeply influenced by both the Pharisees and the Essenes. You believe he chose a sect (Pharisees) whereas I believe he refused to become either, going his own way. I have been able to find little about the Nazarean sect, and nothing that can be considered a primary source at the time. They were thought to have been a group that did live apart, and some (both men and women) even took vows of lifelong chastity/virginity. I reflect on the idea that Mary and Joseph may have been part of this group (as Mary had taken such a vow, and seemingly Joseph had, too)--and this was the environment in which Jesus was raised. And, one of the Gospels did call him a Nazarean. Again, all just possibilities, but from all the information available I still consider Jesus an Independent as opposed to a member of a particular sect. (I take it we both agree he was not a Sadducee! )

 

[Meriweather]

Yes, for WHOM?

How does one get this repentence?

'Repentance' means a change of heart--away from the behavior in which one was agreed--to another. If one was a drunkard, repentance would be giving up excess drink and behaving more soberly.

I don't know what all other Christian denominations teach, but Catholicism teaches that God is the author, and the giver of grace, that leads one to change from disobedience to obedience. God, through Jesus (Word) and the Holy Spirit, works within us to draw us to Himself and His ways. Another point Catholicism makes is in addressing what Paul described as a 'thorn in his side' or a sin (especially an addiction) that one cannot overcome. Paul is not the only Saint who has suffered through this, where God's grace was sufficient in sins we continually struggle to overcome and pray to have removed from our lives.

Bottom line: In both overcoming a sin, and in any failure to overcome a sin, Catholics rely on God's grace working within them. What does your denomination teach? (I guess I assumed it was the same in all Christian denominations, but maybe that's not the case?)

 

[hobelim]

then the conquistadores brought the Inquisition to the Americas---In
the Americas--that filth impacted mostly on the native americans---the
jews got away from most of it by "looking white"

Sure, but "that filth" were just as misled barbaric and ruthless as "beguiled" well meaning [sic] trumpers in full regalia. Sadly some of the worst inquisitors were Jewish like some trumpers now.

Philistines.

 

[hobelim]

All who have read the whole bible see this fact= 99% mislead throughout. Jesus compares these last days to Noahs day( 99.9%) mislead then)Luke 17:26)--

If Jesus was the first fruits of the dead then 100% were dead. So what. Once Jesus was raised up by God it was like splitting the atom and a chain reaction began which reversed the statistics.

 

[hobelim]

I speak truth not bs. This is how 99% are seeing=2Cor 4:4

If you are expecting a cosmic catastrophe then you are deluded, misled. 99% of the people on earth already do not believe that Jesus was the image of God in the flesh. That is the antichrist.

Isn't that a good thing?

I think its the 1%, the religious and secular elite "beguiling" the gullible who should be worried.

If Jesus is about to appear ANY MINUTE then they are going to have a lot of splaining to do.

 

[hobelim]

Jesus taught the Jewish--and more specifically, the PHARISEE POV---
because Jesus was a Pharisee

And then at 30 he left the whitewashed tomb he compared the pharisaic beliefs and practices to.

Thats why Jesus submitted to the baptism of John as a token of repentance for the forgiveness of sins and then "Heaven opened up to him" and he ascended in full view of everyone day by day.

 

[hobelim]

Wrong.

No its not the same.

Kosher Law as far as Jews Muslims Christians, everyone, is concerned should have nothing to do with food hatred or race but the behavior of human archetypes whatever their race or religion is

Hitler was insane and condemned an entire people based on just being Jewish which is pure evil, especially since that hatred was directed at the people who God entrusted his law, instruction, to