Zone1 If Jesus Was A Jew
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^^^ an arrogant Christian, going on about the “truth” as if only HIS religion is correct, and full of contempt for Jews.
OK, already. You shared. Now shut up and show some respect for other people’s beliefs.
zaangalewa
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No one understands the revelation, self-made prophet. You learned to hate the Holy Catholic Church and you look for "reasons" which justify your learned hate. One of this "reasons" is to speak nonsense about the middle ages and about Charlemagne. Charlemagne was right not to wait any longer that the Romans will come back on their own but to refound Rome politically again in a new and very modern Christian way. He was a man of great vision.
By the way: Harun el Raschid - you know him because of Shehezerade's fairy tales from 1001 nights - had sent him some presents when he became Roman Emperor. One of the presents had been an elephant. I never was able to find out what had happenend with this elephant. I guess they never had been able to find out what elephants need to eat.
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so true----and the Tanach (OT) makes it. Reminds me of the movieAll times are Biblical times. Perennial best seller. Best book to ever collect dust on the coffee table.
GONE WITH THE WIND----the first two hours are a delight----then
DULLSVILLE. I was brought up in an entirely secular albeit jewish
household. I was an avid READER---I read anything printed on paper including the "local paper" (dear abby interested me but
I had to get passed the headlines)
I read the NT long before the OT----because THIS TIME OF
the year, old ladies passed out the tiny pocket versions as freebies (tiny
print----ok---excellent visual accomadation). The book of revulsions---
MUSHROOM GALVANIZED (KHAT DON'T DO IT) Prophecy? as in
the ORACLE AT DELPHI?
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There is absolutely no connection whatsoever, between e.g. Germanic's, Gallic's or Briton people with Semitic people - beyond the issue of Jews and Muslims having traveled/conquered/migrated into Europe in the past 2000 years.
It's a made up story aka a belief (God is one in essence and three in person) - and as such it clearly separates Christians/Christianity from Judaism and Islam - amongst many other things/issues.
No, The Greek word for the Spirit, “Pneuma,” is neuter. The Latin word, “Spiritus,” is masculine. And the combination of Holy Spirit in Greek is Paraklētos (masculine) meaning 'advocate', 'counselor', or 'helper'. The Hebrew and Syriac words, “ruach ha-kodesh" or “rucha,” are feminine.
Any Christian refers in his native language (if it beholds a grammar rule towards declination) towards the Holy Spirit, God and his Son as being a male construct.
E.g. in German - DER (masculine) Heilige Geist - and not "das" or "die" Heilige Geist, or e.g. in French "le" (masculine) Saint-Esprit
According to a ruling, issued by the Vatican - to attribute the respective gender allocation of the holy spirit via the respective language and it's grammar - stressing that God is to be addressed as a male.
BTW - do you say "our father in heaven" or our mother?- aka was God, Jesus mother?
God was called by Jesus “abba” (a familiar Semitic term for father). Jesus taught his followers to begin their prayer to God using the words, “our father.”
AFAIK only in Hebrew/Aramaic is reference given towards the Holy Spirit, being feminine
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zaangalewa
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Except that Jews had been Germans like all others, racist ¿anti-Semite? and ¿anti-German?, who spoke a German language. Indeed the Jews had been a German tribe who had been directly under protection of the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire who saw their own legitimation not only as followers of the Roman emperors but also as followers of king David and king Salomon (And in respect of the prophet Jesaja and king Ezechias (Hiskija)).
Christmas carol "Sei uns willkommen, Herre Christ", arranged for oboes and harp, 2007
Oldest Christmas carol handed down in written form
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zaangalewa
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The German language has 4 grammatical sexes or genders (male, female, neuter and none). "Der Geist" - the spirit/ghost - is male. For example "Der Geist der Königin" = "The spirit of the Queen". That the article for "Geist" is male not means that "the Queen" has a male spirit!!! The Holy Spirit is holy - that's it. And truth is always true - independent who speaks out what's true.
Without any article (and so without any grammatical gender or sex) is for example the word "god". When you read in German "der Gott" then this is an idea of German speaking Muslims. Traditionally is the sun in most cultures of the world a symbol for the highest (or the only) god. In German is "the sun" = "die Sonne" grammatically female. Looks like god was female when the German (and English) language(s) had been born. And Hildegard von Bingen said once "God is not only our father - he is also our mother". Everyone agreed.
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that was Paul (assuming any of his writings were accurately included in
the NT) reacting to rejection by Jews of his Hellenistic modifications of
Judaism. What we do know about HISTORY OF THEM THAR DAYS is that
CONSTANTINE HATED JEWS FOR REBELLING AGAINST HIS RULE, His
mother joined the Jesus cult and he was a ruthless EMPIRE BUILDING
MURDERER whose 'christianity' is so suspect that the story is that he had
a sudden EPIPHANY to be a nice guy on his deathbed as his reputation as
a brutal murderer somehow did not FIT ANY OTHER way to elevate him to
"Sainthood"
zaangalewa
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Do you read what you say on your own? If you do so - do you really believe in your ¿own? bullshit?
By the way:
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Das älteste Zeugnis jüdischer Geschichte nördlich der Alpen stammt aus der Antike. Es handelt sich dabei um ein Gesetz des römischen Kaisers Konstantin, das er an die Stadträte Kölns, die "Decurionen von Agrippina", gerichtet hat - erlassen am 11. Dezember des Jahres 321 nach Christus. "Mit einem allgemeinen Gesetz erlauben wir allen Stadträten, Juden in den Rat zu berufen", heißt es in dem Dokument, das erhalten geblieben ist, weil im fünften Jahrhundert Kaiser Theodosius II. die Gesetze des Römischen Reiches sammeln ließ und eine Handschrift davon in der Vatikanischen Bibliothek aufgehoben wurde.
Konstantins Anweisung ist zwar an die Kölner Ratsherren gerichtet, sie ist aber als allgemeines Gesetz, als Lex generalis, formuliert. Das bedeutet: Von nun an gilt für alle Provinzen des Reiches die Erlaubnis, Juden in den Stadtrat berufen zu dürfen.
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The oldest evidence of Jewish history north of the Alps dates back to antiquity. It is a law of the Roman Emperor Constantine, which he addressed to the city councillors of Cologne, the “Decurions of Agrippina” - issued on December 11, 321 AD. “With a general law, we allow all city councils to appoint Jews to the council,” reads the document, which has been preserved because in the fifth century, Emperor Theodosius II had the laws of the Roman Empire collected and a manuscript of it was kept in the Vatican Library.
Although Constantine's instruction is addressed to the Cologne councillors, it is formulated as a general law, a lex generalis. This means that from now on, all provinces of the empire were permitted to appoint Jews to the city council.
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Source: 11. Dezember 321 - Juden werden erstmals in den Kölner Rat berufen
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can you be specific as to that which you have determined to be
"bullshit"?
zaangalewa
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For example your outcry "CONSTANTINE HATED JEWS FOR REBELLING AGAINST HIS RULE". What for heavens sake do you try to speak about in such a bullshit form including bullshit content?
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yes----a very true statement. Constantine's "laws" were codified by his
descendant JUSTIN-----the sort of filth that warms your heart. Adolf loved
the canon laws too. Do you know why some of the "chassidim" wear coats
and Jackets without back pleats or slits?
And if I converted to Judaism I wouldn't be an idolater? Ergo you are evangelizing Judaism and making all Jews look bad by association.
And your evangelization of Judaism continues.
You'll never know.I agree that its quite real and powerful. Rome has used "the power of death" consequent to defying Divine Law to subjugate "the nations" for millennia. You even describe the experience perfectly every time you set aside the law to worship a matzo made by human hands, "The soul bursting at the seams" which must be very exhilarating, dying "the death" of reason, a curse.
So I do agree that you are having a profound religious experience at mass.. Its just not a very good one. Dying every single time you openly and brazenly defy the law of God, by worshipping a trinity, and openly and brazenly desecrating the teachings of Jesus, WORDS FROM GOD, by turning to a lifeless matzo that you bow down to on your knees to worship and eat for spiritual life
Like I said, nuts. I prefer to go though life with my soul intact. Now that's real and very powerful.
You failing to see the absurdity of the hell loop that you are caught up in or the evil that you are openly and brazenly perpetuating is also quite real and powerful evidence of divine condemnation
In your defiled and contaminated state of mind you can't admit or grasp it, but many others can.
No. Jews don’t worship idols.
Jews do not evangelize because Constantine issued an edict rendering such
an act by a jew a CAPITAL CRIME. This edict was incorporated into JUSTINIAN
LAW and ipso facto into the CANON LAW of the "HOLY (moley) ROMAN
EMPIRE.
Ok, did you think I said they did?
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