If I Had Been President of the Confederacy. . . .

[Zincwarrior]

Back to the topic. None of the OP's ideas would have changed history. The Union was not going to stop and should have quashed the traitors two years early. Thats the fault of their Virginia focus.

The only thing that might have helped would have been immediately freeing ALL THE Slaves BEFORE YOU SECEDED. Once the Emancipation Proclamation occurred, it becomes a holy war.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Because you southern inbreds are still racist today.


You mean they didn't share our values, it didn't make genocide okay.


Wow, White Privilige much, Mikey? So genocide is okay if you think the people are sufficently "inferior", eh?



Reality isn't a talking point.


Okay, a couple of points here. The Grand Mufti was one guy. Thousands of Palestinians volunteered to fight for the Commonwealth, even AFTER the British screwed them after WWI


The UN had no business partitioning Palestine because it felt guilty about what Hitler did.

If I take over your house, and then let you sleep in the unheated garage, are you going to feel "thankful"? I doubt it.



What do you mean 'against all odds", the Jews were armed with British and Americans weapons to the hilt.

Israel is the last vestige of European Colonialism in the Middle East. When it goes, the world will be better off.



Um, the Zionists were stealing Arab land long before the 1948 war. The idea that "Oh, we won't steal anymore land" is a bit silly.

How many times does someone have to screw you before you stop putting up with it?

My limit is "one".

The Israelis were poorly armed as there was an embargo on arms shipments to them until much later after they announced they were a country. You cant get even simple facts straight.

 

[Quantrill]

Because you southern inbreds are still racist today.

When did those Jim Crow Yankee Black Codes before the War come to an end? Are you saying the Yankees were racist before the War and immediately became non-racist after the War?

Big difference between a Yankee white racist state such as Illinois whose Jim Crow laws wouldn't allow blacks into the State, and a Southern State in who the Yankees turned all the slaves free and took away Southern white people's rights and used the blacks against us giving them their rights over us. And then you b***h about Southern Jim Crow laws.

The white Yankee North made the blacks enemies of the Southern whites. Promised them the moon and 40 acres and a mule, and then ran back home when it got to hot to handle. Leaving those blacks behind. I wonder why they didn't invite them to come North?

In other words, the North created a shithole in the South and couldn't clean it up. So they ran away leaving it to Southernors to clean up their mess. And when we do, the righteous North cries, racist Jim Crow, racist Jim Crow...caw...caw! Typical Yankee bullshit. The North creates the shit, then runs away and blames everyone else.

Quantrill

 

[RetiredGySgt]

When did those Jim Crow Yankee Black Codes before the War come to an end? Are you saying the Yankees were racist before the War and immediately became non-racist after the War?

Big difference between a Yankee white racist state such as Illinois whose Jim Crow laws wouldn't allow blacks into the State, and a Southern State in who the Yankees turned all the slaves free and took away Southern white people's rights and used the blacks against us giving them their rights over us. And then you b***h about Southern Jim Crow laws.

The white Yankee North made the blacks enemies of the Southern whites. Promised them the moon and 40 acres and a mule, and then ran back home when it got to hot to handle. Leaving those blacks behind. I wonder why they didn't invite them to come North?

In other words, the North created a shithole in the South and couldn't clean it up. So they ran away leaving it to Southernors to clean up their mess. And when we do, the righteous North cries, racist Jim Crow, racist Jim Crow...caw...caw! Typical Yankee bullshit. The North creates the shit, then runs away and blames everyone else.

Quantrill

my god you are racist and proud of it.

 

[JoeB131]

The Israelis were poorly armed as there was an embargo on arms shipments to them until much later after they announced they were a country. You cant get even simple facts straight.

No, they weren't. They had a shitload of WWII surplus.

 

[JoeB131]

Big difference between a Yankee white racist state such as Illinois whose Jim Crow laws wouldn't allow blacks into the State, and a Southern State in who the Yankees turned all the slaves free and took away Southern white people's rights and used the blacks against us giving them their rights over us. And then you b***h about Southern Jim Crow laws.

Actually, it was quite the opposite. When industrialization started happening after the war, black people moved north to Chicago and Detroit and Cleveland to get those good industrial jobs. And White Southern Governments tried to prevent them from leaving, making it against the law to walk along side railroad tracks leading north.

The white Yankee North made the blacks enemies of the Southern whites. Promised them the moon and 40 acres and a mule, and then ran back home when it got to hot to handle. Leaving those blacks behind. I wonder why they didn't invite them to come North?

No, what made blacks your enemy was all the whippings and rapes. It was working hard so that the massa could live in his big mansion, drinking juleps on the veranda.

In other words, the North created a shithole in the South and couldn't clean it up. So they ran away leaving it to Southernors to clean up their mess. And when we do, the righteous North cries, racist Jim Crow, racist Jim Crow...caw...caw! Typical Yankee bullshit. The North creates the shit, then runs away and blames everyone else.

The South was a shithole before the Civil War.
The South will always be this shithole third world country we have attached to us.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

No, they weren't. They had a shitload of WWII surplus.

all smuggled in and all light arms, no tanks just jeeps with machine guns and a few armed cars. only a couple of planes and no heavy weapons.

 

[JoeB131]

all smuggled in and all light arms, no tanks just jeeps with machine guns and a few armed cars. only a couple of planes and no heavy weapons.

Wow, you need to stop believing Zionist Propaganda. The Zionists always had a 2-1 advantage over the Arabs.

 

[mikegriffith1]

The Israelis were poorly armed as there was an embargo on arms shipments to them until much later after they announced they were a country. You [JoeB131] cant get even simple facts straight.

No, he can't, especially when it comes to the Jews and Israel, and no amount of contrary facts will change his neo-Nazi/pro-Jihadist mind.

Even recently he has continued to defend the obscene Nazi/neo-Nazi/Jihadist claim that the Jews wrecked Germany after WWI and that the Nazis had valid reasons for hating the Jews. Most forums would have expelled him for expressing such fringe obscenity. He is lucky that this forum's moderators let everyone express their views, no matter how fringe or nutty, as long as they don't threaten others with violence.

 

[Zincwarrior]

No, he can't, especially when it comes to the Jews and Israel, and no amount of contrary facts will change his neo-Nazi/pro-Jihadist mind.

Even recently he has continued to defend the obscene Nazi/neo-Nazi/Jihadist claim that the Jews wrecked Germany after WWI and that the Nazis had valid reasons for hating the Jews. Most forums would have expelled him for expressing such fringe obscenity. He is lucky that this forum's moderators let everyone express their views, no matter how fringe or nutty, as long as they don't threaten others with violence.

wow this thread went truly weird.

To the topic. The OP's suggestion would have done nothing to save the traitor CSA. Arguing about legalities and now Jews (WTF!!!) has nothing to do with that. Frankly the Federals should have sidestepped Virginia and struck from the central US. They would have won the war two years earlier.

 

[mikegriffith1]

wow this thread went truly weird.

Yes, when you and JoeB131 started posting in it.

To the topic. The OP's suggestion would have done nothing to save the traitor CSA.

I don't think you've done enough reading on the Civil War to offer a credible opinion on the subject.

Arguing about legalities and now Jews (WTF!!!) has nothing to do with that.

Umm, your buddy JoeB131 was the one who started "arguing about Jews." When he posts replies, I often note, for the sake of newcomers, his long list of repulsive anti-Semitic claims.

Frankly the Federals should have sidestepped Virginia and struck from the central US. They would have won the war two years earlier.

I don't think you have any clue what you're talking about. Sidestepping Virginia woud have left the Army of Northern Virginia free to help wherever needed and would have enabled the CSA to concentrate their forces instead of being split into three armies separated by hundreds of miles.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Wow, you need to stop believing Zionist Propaganda. The Zionists always had a 2-1 advantage over the Arabs.

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Not in 1948 they did not have the tanks, or most of the aircraft or artillery or armored cars. The Arabs had everything listed at the start.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Not in 1948 they did not have the tanks, or most of the aircraft or artillery or armored cars. The Arabs had everything listed at the start.

What does this have to do with the traitorous CSA? This thread went weird.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I don't think you have any clue what you're talking about. Sidestepping Virginia woud have left the Army of Northern Virginia free to help wherever needed and would have enabled the CSA to concentrate their forces instead of being split into three armies separated by hundreds of miles.

No. we had a blocking force of a hundred thousand in fortresses around Washington, not to mention field armies. Any time the CSA ventured north they lost.

Lincoln and McClellan were too focused on Richmond and not the theater battlespace. After New Orleans and the Tennessee campaign they were doomed.

 

[JoeB131]

No, he can't, especially when it comes to the Jews and Israel, and no amount of contrary facts will change his neo-Nazi/pro-Jihadist mind.

Except I posted figures showing the Zionists had tanks, and a 2-1 manpower advantage over the Arabs for the duration of the conflict.

One of those big lies, was that the plucky little Israelis fought off the armies of five nations. They leave out that those five nations committed less than 60,000 troops.

Even recently he has continued to defend the obscene Nazi/neo-Nazi/Jihadist claim that the Jews wrecked Germany after WWI and that the Nazis had valid reasons for hating the Jews. Most forums would have expelled him for expressing such fringe obscenity. He is lucky that this forum's moderators let everyone express their views, no matter how fringe or nutty, as long as they don't threaten others with violence.

Seems to me that black people would have as much reason to be offended by your downplaying the horrors of slavery.

Or Chinese people, at your hand-waving of atrocities in Nanjing.

Someone should have explained to you at an early age the difference between a "reason" and "Excuse".

the Germans had no EXCUSE for what they did, but they had reasons to feel the way they felt. Jewish Revolutionaries overthrew the Kaiser. This is a fact.

They probably had some deranged idea that once Germany fell to revolution, the rest of the world would follow.

Instead, the rest of the world just gave Germany the Ned Beatty in Deliverance treatment.

Not in 1948 they did not have the tanks, or most of the aircraft or artillery or armored cars. The Arabs had everything listed at the start.

Yes, in 1948. That was the point. The Zionists had a 2-1 advantage in manpower and equipment.

 

[San Souci]

To be clear, if you were the Traitor President I would have shot you in the feet, then the knees, then the balls, then I would have let Comanche women skin you alive.

Hugs and kisses.

Keyboard Tough Girl. WHAAAA!

 

[Zincwarrior]

Keyboard Tough Girl. WHAAAA!

You know it.

 

[Quantrill]

Actually, it was quite the opposite. When industrialization started happening after the war, black people moved north to Chicago and Detroit and Cleveland to get those good industrial jobs. And White Southern Governments tried to prevent them from leaving, making it against the law to walk along side railroad tracks leading north.





No, what made blacks your enemy was all the whippings and rapes. It was working hard so that the massa could live in his big mansion, drinking juleps on the veranda.


The South was a shithole before the Civil War.
The South will always be this shithole third world country we have attached to us.

What about those Yankee Jim Crow laws before the War. Give your reference for the South making it a law to walk along railroad tracks leading north. If blacks were going to the railroads to get North, hell, I would have been building more track.

And, dumbass, the white Southern governments after the war, were under military law, led by Yankee carpetbaggers.

No, the South was a great place to live before the Yankees came down and shit on it. It is the Yankee mindset. Shit and git.

Quantrill

 

[JoeB131]

Give your reference for the South making it a law to walk along railroad tracks leading north. If blacks were going to the railroads to get North, hell, I would have been building more track.

Ah, now we see the real racism come out. Just admit you hate black people and that's why you are sorry the South Lost.

And, dumbass, the white Southern governments after the war, were under military law, led by Yankee carpetbaggers.

For about one generation, that was pretty much over by 1876, that's when the inbreds started imposing Jim Crow laws, miscegnation laws, voter suppression, debt peonage and all the other crap to try to keep black people down.

No, the South was a great place to live before the Yankees came down and shit on it. It is the Yankee mindset. Shit and git.

Nope, the south was a shithole then. That's why you lost the war. Because eventually, you ran out of stupid inbreds willing to take bullets.

 

[rightwinger]

I agree that Ft Sumter provoked the war. Good point about feeding and supplying US forts to show good faith.

But as long as the South maintained slavery, it is Lipstick on a Pig. Other nations could not treat the Confederacy as legitimate.

Maintaining slavery was the reason for the Confederacies existence. Moving towards emancipation would never have happened. Just look at how the South embraced Jim Crow for a hundred years after the war.