The "War between the States" did not start over Slavery

[TruthSeeker112125]

It was All about "More Government", & "Money".​

Pay Attention in this article, to what Lincoln stated about Slavery, and that he stated that Northern Slave States could continue to own Slaves if they did not secede!

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Doug Casey on The Real Causes of The American War of Secession​

by Doug Casey

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Editor’s Note: Doug is a longtime member of a dinner club in Buenos Aires called The Round Table. The over 100 years old group is composed of eight Argentines, eight Englishmen, and eight Americans. Every month, one of them gives a paper on a subject they’re knowledgeable about and, after discussion, everyone sits down to a catered dinner. It’s one of the niceties of living in Buenos Aires.


This paper presents an underappreciated view of the American war between the states.


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I wish to disabuse you of something you’ve probably believed since you were ten years old. Only a third of you have been subjected to the American public school version of history, but that version has permeated throughout the world. After all, the winners get to write the history books. What Americans are taught about their so-called “Civil War” is, in good measure, a fairy tale.


Let’s start by getting the terminology right. It wasn’t a “civil war.” A civil war is a conflict in which two or more factions fight for control of the same government. That’s not what happened. The South wasn’t trying to take over the North. Their sole objective was to leave the Union. That made it a war of secession. Calling it a civil war is propaganda—framing Southerners as rebels and insurgents rather than people who simply wanted to go their own way. Some call it the War of Northern Aggression, a name which might have stuck if the Confederacy had won. I prefer to be neutral, so I will call it the War Between the States.


The standard narrative holds that the noble North, led by the saintly Abraham Lincoln, fought the evil South to free the slaves. Full stop. Now, more than any time in the past, that’s the whole story as far as most Americans are concerned. It’s on a par with believing that Spain blew up the battleship Maine to start the Spanish-American War, or that World War I was fought to “make the world safe for democracy.” I’ll reserve comment on more recent wars. But good propaganda always contains a kernel of truth, even while truth is always the first casualty in a war.

Doug Casey on The Real Causes of The American War of Secession

The American Civil War was shaped by slavery, tariffs, states’ rights, federal power, regional economic conflict, and British geopolitical pressure rather than a single-cause narrative.

internationalman.com

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[mikegriffith1]

It was All about "More Government", & "Money".​

Pay Attention in this article, to what Lincoln stated about Slavery, and that he stated that Northern Slave States could continue to own Slaves if they did not secede!
Editor’s Note: Doug is a longtime member of a dinner club in Buenos Aires called The Round Table. The over 100 years old group is composed of eight Argentines, eight Englishmen, and eight Americans. Every month, one of them gives a paper on a subject they’re knowledgeable about and, after discussion, everyone sits down to a catered dinner. It’s one of the niceties of living in Buenos Aires.

This paper presents an underappreciated view of the American war between the states.

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I wish to disabuse you of something you’ve probably believed since you were ten years old. Only a third of you have been subjected to the American public school version of history, but that version has permeated throughout the world. After all, the winners get to write the history books. What Americans are taught about their so-called “Civil War” is, in good measure, a fairy tale.

Let’s start by getting the terminology right. It wasn’t a “civil war.” A civil war is a conflict in which two or more factions fight for control of the same government. That’s not what happened. The South wasn’t trying to take over the North. Their sole objective was to leave the Union. That made it a war of secession. Calling it a civil war is propaganda—framing Southerners as rebels and insurgents rather than people who simply wanted to go their own way. Some call it the War of Northern Aggression, a name which might have stuck if the Confederacy had won. I prefer to be neutral, so I will call it the War Between the States.

The standard narrative holds that the noble North, led by the saintly Abraham Lincoln, fought the evil South to free the slaves. Full stop. Now, more than any time in the past, that’s the whole story as far as most Americans are concerned. It’s on a par with believing that Spain blew up the battleship Maine to start the Spanish-American War, or that World War I was fought to “make the world safe for democracy.” I’ll reserve comment on more recent wars. But good propaganda always contains a kernel of truth, even while truth is always the first casualty in a war.

Doug Casey on The Real Causes of The American War of Secession

The American Civil War was shaped by slavery, tariffs, states’ rights, federal power, regional economic conflict, and British geopolitical pressure rather than a single-cause narrative.

internationalman.com

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Slavery was the leading indirect cause of the Civil War. If slavery had not existed, there would have been no Deep South secession and no war.

When the Confederates tried to seize New Mexico Territory, they made the war a civil war. They were invading a large U.S. territory and trying to annex it.

In 1860, New Mexico Territory consisted of modern-day New Mexico plus most of Arizona and parts of southern Nevada and Colorado. It was a huge U.S. territory. When the Southern states left the Union, they voided any claim or right to any part of New Mexico Territory.

Yes, the Civil War was fought over Southern independence, but the Deep South states never would have sought independence if slavery had not existed, and the majority of Confederate leaders foolishly refused to begin any kind of an emancipation program until it was too late. The fact that they did begin such a program shows that when push came to shove independence was more important than slavery, but they reached that conclusion too late to do any good.

 

[August West]

It was All about "More Government", & "Money".​

Pay Attention in this article, to what Lincoln stated about Slavery, and that he stated that Northern Slave States could continue to own Slaves if they did not secede!

​

============​

​

Doug Casey on The Real Causes of The American War of Secession​

by Doug Casey

Subscribe to International Man
Editor’s Note: Doug is a longtime member of a dinner club in Buenos Aires called The Round Table. The over 100 years old group is composed of eight Argentines, eight Englishmen, and eight Americans. Every month, one of them gives a paper on a subject they’re knowledgeable about and, after discussion, everyone sits down to a catered dinner. It’s one of the niceties of living in Buenos Aires.


This paper presents an underappreciated view of the American war between the states.


—


I wish to disabuse you of something you’ve probably believed since you were ten years old. Only a third of you have been subjected to the American public school version of history, but that version has permeated throughout the world. After all, the winners get to write the history books. What Americans are taught about their so-called “Civil War” is, in good measure, a fairy tale.


Let’s start by getting the terminology right. It wasn’t a “civil war.” A civil war is a conflict in which two or more factions fight for control of the same government. That’s not what happened. The South wasn’t trying to take over the North. Their sole objective was to leave the Union. That made it a war of secession. Calling it a civil war is propaganda—framing Southerners as rebels and insurgents rather than people who simply wanted to go their own way. Some call it the War of Northern Aggression, a name which might have stuck if the Confederacy had won. I prefer to be neutral, so I will call it the War Between the States.


The standard narrative holds that the noble North, led by the saintly Abraham Lincoln, fought the evil South to free the slaves. Full stop. Now, more than any time in the past, that’s the whole story as far as most Americans are concerned. It’s on a par with believing that Spain blew up the battleship Maine to start the Spanish-American War, or that World War I was fought to “make the world safe for democracy.” I’ll reserve comment on more recent wars. But good propaganda always contains a kernel of truth, even while truth is always the first casualty in a war.

Doug Casey on The Real Causes of The American War of Secession

The American Civil War was shaped by slavery, tariffs, states’ rights, federal power, regional economic conflict, and British geopolitical pressure rather than a single-cause narrative.

internationalman.com

Mod Edit: Do not paste the entire article, only an excerpt, please.

The hundreds of CW books that I`ve read tell me that the war began over secession and secession was about slavery. Doug Casey doesn`t know squat or if he does, he`s perpetuating the "lost cause" nonsense. Lincoln`s cause was keeping the country together by whatever means necessary. Personally, I think Lincoln should have let the dumb states go and we would be a better country today.
The Dumbest States list.

The 10 Dumbest States In The United States For 2025

The dumbest states in the US are Mississippi and Arkansas for 2025 based on Saturday Night Science.

www.roadsnacks.net

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Mike & August, both of You have made very interesting comments.

"Slavery", was acceptable in America prior to the Secession/War.

Lincoln offered to allow Connecticut I believe, (I;ll have to check my data),that if it remained in the Union, that it could keep it's system of Slavery.

The "Emancipation Proclamation", came about after the War had begun, & not before.

The Southern States, were getting rich, due to their Trade with Europe, etc., & the North wanted a "piece of that pie". When the Southern States objected,... The North began taking it, which led to the Secession/War.