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/—-/ So you don’t even want to try to rein in spending. 11 Bizarre Things the U.S. Government Actually Spent Money On/——/ I should have been specific. A 10% cut across the board in discretionary spending. Entitlements can be trimmed by aggressively eliminating fraud and waste./——/ Actually, driver training teaches us to take our foot off the brakes and steer into the skid to regain control. A simple across the board spending cut of 10% would retire the debt in a few years.Don’t be concerned. Trillions are handed out to the ultra wealthy.i used the first stimulus check to pay for materials to build a built-in in my house. i plan to use a second, if i get it to help pay for a new kitchen in my rental property.
i'm not a huge fan of just handing out money. i have serious doubts about, all of this. but if they are handing it out, i will spend it to contribute to the "Stimulus" effect they are going for.
that is part of my reasoning.
more and more, i am coming to believe that the debt, none of the debt, our or other governments, will really be paid off.
we are in a unsustainable situation, and there is no reason to expect anything other than some form of crash and burn.
like when bob and doug mckenizie lost control of the beer truck, on icy road.
"no use steering now".
spending cuts are impossible due to unfunded entitlements.
hell, a spending freeze is impossible for the same reason.
and changing that, in a democratic system, with a greying population seems to be impossible.
hell, DISCUSSING it openly, seems to be impossible.
it seems to be an inherent flaw in the concept of the current model of the liberal nation-state, across the board.
if not worse than that. i believe that illiberal authoritarian states have similar issues, such as russia and china.
discretionary spending is not the problem. unsustainable entitlement growth is.
fraud and waste is not enough. we have pension systems that were set up when the populations were still majority freaking farmers, and based on the assumption of ever growing populations.
now, we have a declining population.
no use steering now.
Dems are in the process of trying to turn the entire country into a welfare state just as idiots like you would want.There is no need for China to "take over". You are already a socialist nation reliant on government handouts.Is it 1850 Tommy? Also....you do know that Britain was the boss for centuries. then the went socialist and their annual growth plunged like ours. The world becomes more dangerous when there is a power vacuum. We had 2 world wars between the power vacuum of Britain and the new world leader, the United States. And both nations had a lot in common and were English speaking. Imagine when China takes over. It will be a doozy. p.s....I do believe there can be a relationship between capitalism and socialist policies. It is the percentages of each that we have to get down and realize we can not solve all problems at this point in human development.Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment
Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.www.cnet.com
There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.
Are you all going to give the money back ?
Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment
Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.www.cnet.com
There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.
Are you all going to give the money back ?
I am trying to figure out what Christianity is to Progs? Evil capitalists or.....no technology! What about...people are just used. Socialism is written up as the best system in the world. And yet it does not work as what is told. Capitalism can be abusive to its employees. It has softened up in industrial western nations. A marriage of socialism and capitalism balance right may work. Its how it is done and we are doing it now. Perhaps some surgery on the inefficient programs and laws that affect us in a negative way would help. And promoting healing and growth in potential ways that will improve our society. All or nothing is barbaric thinking at times.Can you point to a time in the last five hundred years when elite capitalists behaved as if they believed in a God?Yes, their god with a little g, but this was caused by abandoning God with the big G.
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It’s most ironic that our government and the Fed bailout big business to the tune of trillions, yet no one says this is a disincentive to work. However, they do say this for the working class.I consider it a rebate of income illegally confiscated before I even receive it. Even with a second stimulus check, the government still has several thousand dollars of my income "after" my tax refund came.
Those that have no tax liability after receiving their refund shouldn't get the money.
Republicans call the $600 unemployment boost a disincentive to work. Many experts disagree
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/03/is-...a-disincentive-to-work-no-economists-say.html
Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment
Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.www.cnet.com
There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.
Are you all going to give the money back ?
I didn't get one penny of the stimulus bills passed thus far and I won't get any of the one coming. Nor do I want or need it.
I do want those who do need it to get it.
I will say if we had a government that listened to and followed the advice of the experts this stimulus wouldn't be needed. Or at least not cost as much.
The CDC published guidelines but trump and republicans didn't follow the guidelines. So here we are in a total mess.
Taxes on the rich and big business will have to be increased soon to pay for all this. The huge loopholes the rich and business use to pay little in taxes will need to be closed. The military will need to be cut. Subsidies to big business needs to stop or at least be cut. Taxes on unearned income will also need to be increased. A tax on large stock trades will need to be imposed. In other words, get rid of conservative economics and go back to responsible economics. I know that's just a dream but I can't help chasing those windmills.
We are racking up debt that is out of control.
Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment
Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.www.cnet.com
There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.
Are you all going to give the money back ?
I didn't get one penny of the stimulus bills passed thus far and I won't get any of the one coming. Nor do I want or need it.
I do want those who do need it to get it.
I will say if we had a government that listened to and followed the advice of the experts this stimulus wouldn't be needed. Or at least not cost as much.
The CDC published guidelines but trump and republicans didn't follow the guidelines. So here we are in a total mess.
Taxes on the rich and big business will have to be increased soon to pay for all this. The huge loopholes the rich and business use to pay little in taxes will need to be closed. The military will need to be cut. Subsidies to big business needs to stop or at least be cut. Taxes on unearned income will also need to be increased. A tax on large stock trades will need to be imposed. In other words, get rid of conservative economics and go back to responsible economics. I know that's just a dream but I can't help chasing those windmills.
We are racking up debt that is out of control.
Ahhh the numbers game, gotta love it.Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment
Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.www.cnet.com
There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.
Are you all going to give the money back ?
I didn't get one penny of the stimulus bills passed thus far and I won't get any of the one coming. Nor do I want or need it.
I do want those who do need it to get it.
I will say if we had a government that listened to and followed the advice of the experts this stimulus wouldn't be needed. Or at least not cost as much.
The CDC published guidelines but trump and republicans didn't follow the guidelines. So here we are in a total mess.
Taxes on the rich and big business will have to be increased soon to pay for all this. The huge loopholes the rich and business use to pay little in taxes will need to be closed. The military will need to be cut. Subsidies to big business needs to stop or at least be cut. Taxes on unearned income will also need to be increased. A tax on large stock trades will need to be imposed. In other words, get rid of conservative economics and go back to responsible economics. I know that's just a dream but I can't help chasing those windmills.
We are racking up debt that is out of control.
Exactly right. Thank you.It’s most ironic that our government and the Fed bailout big business to the tune of trillions, yet no one says this is a disincentive to work. However, they do say this for the working class.I consider it a rebate of income illegally confiscated before I even receive it. Even with a second stimulus check, the government still has several thousand dollars of my income "after" my tax refund came.
Those that have no tax liability after receiving their refund shouldn't get the money.
Republicans call the $600 unemployment boost a disincentive to work. Many experts disagree
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/03/is-...a-disincentive-to-work-no-economists-say.html
I find it funny that people scream about 600 dollars being a disincentive to work.
Yet they don't see that the problem is that people aren't making enough money at work. It's not the problem of unemployment. The problem is people aren't being paid a living wage.
While the owners, ceos, executives and stockholders walk away with millions.
Paying people a living wage is very bad but it's great that those at the top walk away with millions.
We have to shower the filthy rich to give them incentives to do business in America but we can't make sure our people have a living wage to give them an incentive to go to work.
The values and priorities in some people in our nation are all messed up.
Most make way more per week than a lousy 300+600=$900.00 a week. So no your premises are all wrong. Most people want to go back to work so they can resume their better paying jobs.It’s most ironic that our government and the Fed bailout big business to the tune of trillions, yet no one says this is a disincentive to work. However, they do say this for the working class.I consider it a rebate of income illegally confiscated before I even receive it. Even with a second stimulus check, the government still has several thousand dollars of my income "after" my tax refund came.
Those that have no tax liability after receiving their refund shouldn't get the money.
Republicans call the $600 unemployment boost a disincentive to work. Many experts disagree
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/03/is-...a-disincentive-to-work-no-economists-say.html
I find it funny that people scream about 600 dollars being a disincentive to work.
Yet they don't see that the problem is that people aren't making enough money at work. It's not the problem of unemployment. The problem is people aren't being paid a living wage.
While the owners, ceos, executives and stockholders walk away with millions.
Paying people a living wage is very bad but it's great that those at the top walk away with millions.
We have to shower the filthy rich to give them incentives to do business in America but we can't make sure our people have a living wage to give them an incentive to go to work.
The values and priorities in some people in our nation are all messed up.
What the hell is Tommy the idiotic brit worried about American stimulus for anyway?
Looks like his own nation is giving money to stimulate businesses, along with record debt...
U.K. Pumps Billions Into Its Ailing Economy to Keep Crisis at Bay
The U.K. government announced up to $38 billion in fresh stimulus measures intended to boost the country’s economy as it exits lockdown, a path that is also being considered by other rich nations.www.google.com
Tommy needs to lose his obsession with America, the stupid fool.
There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.
Are you all going to give the money back ?
I think greed is the reason capitalism was invented:They might not have, but the one's who did kept them in check. So it may have been the super elites coupled with the social issues that which allowed them to keep attention deflected away from them and their greed/raping of the system's.
Capitalism works until the government shuts the economy down which means socialism doesn't work because it's maintained by the government.Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment
Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.www.cnet.com
There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.
Are you all going to give the money back ?
It’s most ironic that our government and the Fed bailout big business to the tune of trillions, yet no one says this is a disincentive to work. However, they do say this for the working class.I consider it a rebate of income illegally confiscated before I even receive it. Even with a second stimulus check, the government still has several thousand dollars of my income "after" my tax refund came.
Those that have no tax liability after receiving their refund shouldn't get the money.
Republicans call the $600 unemployment boost a disincentive to work. Many experts disagree
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/03/is-...a-disincentive-to-work-no-economists-say.html
I find it funny that people scream about 600 dollars being a disincentive to work.
Yet they don't see that the problem is that people aren't making enough money at work. It's not the problem of unemployment. The problem is people aren't being paid a living wage.
While the owners, ceos, executives and stockholders walk away with millions.
Paying people a living wage is very bad but it's great that those at the top walk away with millions.
We have to shower the filthy rich to give them incentives to do business in America but we can't make sure our people have a living wage to give them an incentive to go to work.
The values and priorities in some people in our nation are all messed up.
It’s most ironic that our government and the Fed bailout big business to the tune of trillions, yet no one says this is a disincentive to work. However, they do say this for the working class.I consider it a rebate of income illegally confiscated before I even receive it. Even with a second stimulus check, the government still has several thousand dollars of my income "after" my tax refund came.
Those that have no tax liability after receiving their refund shouldn't get the money.
Republicans call the $600 unemployment boost a disincentive to work. Many experts disagree
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/03/is-...a-disincentive-to-work-no-economists-say.html
I find it funny that people scream about 600 dollars being a disincentive to work.
Yet they don't see that the problem is that people aren't making enough money at work. It's not the problem of unemployment. The problem is people aren't being paid a living wage.
While the owners, ceos, executives and stockholders walk away with millions.
Paying people a living wage is very bad but it's great that those at the top walk away with millions.
We have to shower the filthy rich to give them incentives to do business in America but we can't make sure our people have a living wage to give them an incentive to go to work.
The values and priorities in some people in our nation are all messed up.
is your goal higher wages for workers, or just pushing the class warfare paradigm?
Enough to keep his people fed and housed! I know you hate that!How do you calculate God's share of the profit formula?well simply said, you didn't include God's share. nice omittance.