I would love to hear the tape. Wouldn't you?

It seems to me that some are the real thing, literal neofascists, and the rest are the useful idiots that enable them. History tells us that. I can't tell what the percentages are.

Trump himself is just a tool. He's so desperately immature, self centered and vengeful that he's of huge value to people like Stephen Miller. Trump is a just a walking tragedy, and he's being used.

What's your guess?

Actually President Trump had a tremendously successful life long before he disembarked from the golden escalator.

Developing products and properties across the world, top rated television program where he basically invented the idea of "reality TV", launching a fabulous university, even being enshrined as a member of the WWE Hall of Fame.

He didn't need this, but he realized the shithole America was becoming.
 
It seems to me that some are the real thing, literal neofascists, and the rest are the useful idiots that enable them. History tells us that. I can't tell what the percentages are.

Trump himself is just a tool. He's so desperately immature, self centered and vengeful that he's of huge value to people like Stephen Miller. Trump is a just a walking tragedy, and he's being used.

What's your guess?
IMO, the mindless fools we encounter on this board spewing nonsense and lies they absorb from right wing media are more representative of the majority of his base supporters than I previously thought possible. But they aren't inherently evil people.

Stephen Miller on the other hand is psychopathic. So is Homan, JD, Bove, Vought, Patel. Folks like Bondi are just weak minded followers.
 

Tom Homan was investigated for accepting $50,000 from undercover FBI agents. Trump's DOJ shut it down.​

In an undercover operation last year, the FBI recorded Tom Homan, now the White House border czar, accepting $50,000 in cash after indicating he could help the agents — who were posing as business executives — win government contracts in a second Trump administration, according to multiple people familiar with the probe and internal documents reviewed by MSNBC.

The FBI and the Justice Department planned to wait to see whether Homan would deliver on his alleged promise once he became the nation’s top immigration official. But the case indefinitely stalled soon after Donald Trump became president again in January, according to six sources familiar with the matter. In recent weeks, Trump appointees officially closed the investigation, after FBI Director Kash Patel requested a status update on the case, two of the people said.


The rationale the trump government has used to tuck the investigation in to a drawer is it was "politically motivated." a Trump Justice Department appointee called the case a “deep state” probe in early 2025.

But Homan was not the original target in the probe.

The federal investigation was launched in western Texas in the summer of 2024 after a subject in a separate investigation claimed Homan was soliciting payments in exchange for awarding contracts should Trump win the presidential election, according to an internal Justice Department summary of the probe reviewed by MSNBC and people familiar with the case.

I can't put my finger on why, but Homan accepting a bag of cash fits him like a glove. Something about him gives off a mob boss sensibility.

Anyway, during the 2024 campaign Homan made no secret of the power he would have if trump was re-elected. Homan, who served as acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement early in Trump’s first term, openly claimed during the 2024 campaign that he would play a prominent role in carrying out Trump’s promised mass deportations. Making the acceptance of bribes all the more believable.

This incident, and the subsequent coverup, rounds out the portfolio of corruption in trump 2.0.




















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Actually President Trump had a tremendously successful life long before he disembarked from the golden escalator.

Developing products and properties across the world, top rated television program where he basically invented the idea of "reality TV", launching a fabulous university, even being enshrined as a member of the WWE Hall of Fame.

He didn't need this, but he realized the shithole America was becoming.
Spoken like a cultist. You know he had to shut down trump U because he defrauded the students, right? You know he sexually molested at least 26 women who came forward, right? That he stole money from a charity. Had a sexual affair with a porn star shortly after Melania gave birth to their child. Raped E. Jean Carroll. Declared bankruptcy multiple times. Screwed the investors in his failed casino biz.
 
IMO, the mindless fools we encounter on this board spewing nonsense and lies they absorb from right wing media are more representative of the majority of his base supporters than I previously thought possible. But they aren't inherently evil people.

Stephen Miller on the other hand is psychopathic. So is Homan, JD, Bove, Vought, Patel. Folks like Bondi are just weak minded followers.
Agree completely.

Of the street-level group, I think many of them are very sincere about loving America and wanting the best for it. But they've been so corrupted by the voices they have trusted over the years that they've essentially sold their morality for political gain. I just don't believe that a moral person can defend this person in the WH, let alone advocate for him.

Are there a few Stephen Millers here? Yeah. But I do think they're the minority within the "movement".
 
Actually President Trump had a tremendously successful life long before he disembarked from the golden escalator.

Developing products and properties across the world, top rated television program where he basically invented the idea of "reality TV", launching a fabulous university, even being enshrined as a member of the WWE Hall of Fame.

He didn't need this, but he realized the shithole America was becoming.
Holy shit. No he didn’t invent reality TV ya moron.

Guess who produced the Apprentice?

Yeah the guy that produced Survivor.

And all his “products” bombed and lost money… as did his casinos ( how the **** do you lose money on a cash cow)?

And then there’s all the bankruptcies and times he stiffed people he owed for services rendered

If he took the money he inherited and just invested it conservatively in the market he would be richer now than he is
 
Agree completely.

Of the street-level group, I think many of them are very sincere about loving America and wanting the best for it. But they've been so corrupted by the voices they have trusted over the years that they've essentially sold their morality for political gain. I just don't believe that a moral person can defend this person in the WH, let alone advocate for him.

Are there a few Stephen Millers here? Yeah. But I do think they're the minority within the "movement".
Exactly what the left would be doing if Harris won.
 

Tom Homan was investigated for accepting $50,000 from undercover FBI agents. Trump's DOJ shut it down.​

In an undercover operation last year, the FBI recorded Tom Homan, now the White House border czar, accepting $50,000 in cash after indicating he could help the agents — who were posing as business executives — win government contracts in a second Trump administration, according to multiple people familiar with the probe and internal documents reviewed by MSNBC.

The FBI and the Justice Department planned to wait to see whether Homan would deliver on his alleged promise once he became the nation’s top immigration official. But the case indefinitely stalled soon after Donald Trump became president again in January, according to six sources familiar with the matter. In recent weeks, Trump appointees officially closed the investigation, after FBI Director Kash Patel requested a status update on the case, two of the people said.


The rationale the trump government has used to tuck the investigation in to a drawer is it was "politically motivated." a Trump Justice Department appointee called the case a “deep state” probe in early 2025.

But Homan was not the original target in the probe.

The federal investigation was launched in western Texas in the summer of 2024 after a subject in a separate investigation claimed Homan was soliciting payments in exchange for awarding contracts should Trump win the presidential election, according to an internal Justice Department summary of the probe reviewed by MSNBC and people familiar with the case.

I can't put my finger on why, but Homan accepting a bag of cash fits him like a glove. Something about him gives off a mob boss sensibility.

Anyway, during the 2024 campaign Homan made no secret of the power he would have if trump was re-elected. Homan, who served as acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement early in Trump’s first term, openly claimed during the 2024 campaign that he would play a prominent role in carrying out Trump’s promised mass deportations. Making the acceptance of bribes all the more believable.

This incident, and the subsequent coverup, rounds out the portfolio of corruption in trump 2.0.

By now you should all realize how politics works. All lies.

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I realize that if I were "better", the left would gain control. A person does what he has to do.
That could be construed to mean all sorts of nefarious actions
 
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It seems to me that some are the real thing, literal neofascists, and the rest are the useful idiots that enable them. History tells us that. I can't tell what the percentages are.

Trump himself is just a tool. He's so desperately immature, self centered and vengeful that he's of huge value to people like Stephen Miller. Trump is a just a walking tragedy, and he's being used.

What's your guess?

I don't think he is being used without his own approval....and getting something out of it, for himself.


My non professional guess is this:

Malignant narcissism is a combination of narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders, characterized by grandiosity, lack of empathy, manipulative behavior, and often aggressive or sadistic tendencies.
 
I don't think he is being used without his own approval....and getting something out of it, for himself.


My non professional guess is this:

Malignant narcissism is a combination of narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders, characterized by grandiosity, lack of empathy, manipulative behavior, and often aggressive or sadistic tendencies.
Yeah, he definitely gets benefit from this, especially the chasing down of those who tried to hold him accountable. Plus the various grifts that have made him billions.
 
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