Zone1 I am stepping away from Judaism

[Meriweather]

Give me a story from Genesis that you know to not be true.

There is no lesson in Genesis--or any part of the Bible--that is not true.

 

[Meriweather]

You're pretending to burst out laughing at me more than twice a day now.

Grin. No pretense. Literally true.

 

[Meriweather]

How rude of you to claim that stories from Genesis weren't accepted in 1950!

I made no such claim--or remark.

 

[Donald H]

Give me a specific example.

Read what he said on me needing to reference the catechism instead of using the big fish story as an example. He's being rude and abusive again and I have no idea what it could tell me?

Here's my wild guess: He wants to say that Darwin and the Adam and Eve' story can both be true.

Or in other words, the god created everything, but don't add any specific window dressing.

 

[Donald H]

I made no such claim--or remark.

Fine. I'll take it that you believed in 1950 that Genesis was a literally true account.
At least until you get up the courage to tell me what you believe wasn't.

 

[ding]

i. ding mccxxiii to 1222 : I'm no saint. But given that almost every post you make is a moral argument, I'm pretty sure you see yourself as one. dvng 241205 Siasaf01223


ii. NotfooledbyW mccxxiv to 1223 : I see myself as a rational theistic Republican Only voter who votes in the primary interest of the middle through lower multicultural and multiracial WORKING CLASS.

Those who vote in opposition to WORKING CLASS interests are locked in sympathetically to politically potent irrational theists who are obsessed with a Biblical Worldview akin to Trump’s convicted felon Jesus believ’n campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis.

Saint JennaEllis is a perfect example of an irrational moralistic kinda white Biblical Worldview voter who votes in the interest of Baby Fetus and all Trump’s trickle downer billionaires who have suffered so greatly under a multiracial working class Administration.

That’s why you are an irrational voter too Baby Fetus Savior Ding, nfbw 241206 Viasaf01224

Baby fetus savior ding?

You seem to only focus on politics. So just to be clear, you believe that unless everyone agrees with you on political issues, they are irrational? I'm going to have to go with people that resort to name calling are the irrational ones.

Let's ask google shall we?

Google is name calling a sign of irrationality?

Yes, name-calling is generally considered a sign of irrationality because it represents an attempt to attack a person's character or identity instead of engaging with their arguments or ideas in a logical manner, often stemming from frustration or a lack of ability to effectively counter a point, making it a form of ad hominem attack which is considered illogical reasoning.​

Well... there you have it. According to google you are irrational.

 

[Meriweather]

Fine. I'll take it that you believed in 1950 that Genesis was a literally true account.

And you would be wrong.

 

[Meriweather]

Here's my wild guess: He wants to say that Darwin and the Adam and Eve' story can both be true.

You will have to direct me to a specific post. However, I can tell you that Catholic teaching is that one can take a story literally or not literally--that's up to each individual. The lesson it teaches is what matters. The Church cares not a whit whether one believes in evolution or in a literal six day creation.

 

[Donald H]

And you would be wrong.

Maybe ding's catechism can clear up the contradictions. He seems to think it can!

 

[ding]

i. Meriweather mcii. : As for life in the womb, the government position should that it has no authority to bring about any criminal action, mrwthr 242201 Siasaf01102

ii. NotfooledbyW mccxxv. : The above statement is rational, truthful and therefore absolutely correct., Saint ding is absolutely wrong. nfbw 241206 Viasaf01225

Saint ding? How many times do I have to tell you I'm no saint. I wouldn't want others to get the wrong idea about me.

Your name calling suggest that you are not rational. You seem to be incapable of making arguments in a logical and rational manner. Your name calling suggests you are frustrated by your lack of ability to effectively argue counter points.

 

[ding]

i. Meriweather mcii. : As for life in the womb, the government position should that it has no authority to bring about any criminal action, mrwthr 242201 Siasaf01102

ii. NotfooledbyW mccxxv. : The above statement is rational, truthful and therefore absolutely correct., Saint ding is absolutely wrong. nfbw 241206 Viasaf01225

iii. AzogtheDefiler mccxxvi. to 1225: What does this have to do with the OP, you deranged leftist? zgthdflr 241206 Siasaf01226

iv. NotfooledbyW mccxxvii to.1226. : The Republican Party’s slippage into the hell of authoritarianism under Trump has been ultimately driven by the “saving baby fetus” movement by irrational Judeo:Christian biblical view control freaks.

You appeared to me to be on their side.

Where do you stand on the abortion issue in the United States as a former Jew, current Jew, or. simply as confused human being lost in the wilderness of political ignorance? nfbw 241206 Viasaf01227




















v. NotfooledbyW mccxxvii to.1226. : Its also because Saint Ding has dandruff. nfbw 241206 Viasaf01227

Again with the saint ding. You really are triggered which explains your irrationality. Maybe consider taking a break and enjoying life for a change? This can't be good for you.

 

[ding]

If you can't accept the truths then you'll just have to ignore them. I'm happy to have your input now.

Did you mean to edit my post in your reply? Because what you are quoting is not what I wrote. Maybe you should try again?

You could just go to the Catechism and read what it says, right?

 

[Donald H]

You will have to direct me to a specific post. However, I can tell you that Catholic teaching is that one can take a story literally or not literally--that's up to each individual.

I know that.

The lesson it teaches is what matters. The Church cares not a whit whether one believes in evolution or in a literal six day creation.

And that is illustrative of your respect for what other Catholics believe, and so you don't state any contradictions on what you believe and others don't.

You're happy to leave it at that. I am too!

 

[ding]

I think most of the others are mostly staying out of it because they don't want to fall into the trap the Catholic church set for itself.

Who among them wants t own 'Jonah and the big fish story?

WHO?

Not you, me, Meri, and her granny!

What does that have to do with the fact that you are here to play silly games and refuse to own it?

 

[ding]

Can you see the problem with granny's contradiction? You tell me about her beliefs as if she was thinking ahead of the flock. And she was! There's just no way you can make people accept that the Catholics believed in evolution in 1950!

And once again my friend, I'm not contradicting you on the bibles teaching spiritual lessons. I'm suggesting that most of the bible stories are not literally true. There's no need to cite more examples now.

Isn't it a bit troubling that nobody but Ding can just say it?

Or he keeps hinting that his catechism says it for him?

Dude, you are horrible at trolling. They should kick you out of the guild.

 

[ding]

Maybe ding's catechism can clear up the contradictions. He seems to think it can!

ding's catechism?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

There was no problem. At that time my grandmother was living in a city, going through nurses training and science often taught by nuns. It was Catholic nuns who were teaching, and you can just bet they were not rogue Catholic nuns. There were other Catholic hospitals in other cities (not to mention other kinds of Catholic schools) teaching the theory of evolution as well. No one was forced to believe evolution; people could believe or disbelieve as they saw fit. Again, this was related to me by people who lived through these times.


All my life I've known some of the Bible stories are not literally true! A ten-or-eleven-year old knows this because we teach them about fables, just so stories, folklore, etc. You are like someone who thinks the wheel is a modern invention, not something that came into being thousands of years ago. Wake up. Read Genesis carefully. Any middle school student who pays attention in English class can read through Genesis and identify which parts are just so stories, which are fables, which are folklore, etc. How old are you, and how many years was your head buried in the sand that all this has been a shocking surprise to you?

You really are triggered

i. Meriweather mcii. : As for life in the womb, the government position should be that it has no authority to bring about any criminal action, mrwthr 242201 Siasaf01102

NotfooledbyW mccxli. to 1251: Does it bother you that a Catholic Republican says you’re argument is wrong? nfbw 241206 Viasaf01241

 

[ding]

i. Meriweather mcii. : As for life in the womb, the government position should be that it has no authority to bring about any criminal action, mrwthr 242201 Siasaf01102

NotfooledbyW mccxli. to 1251: Does it bother you that a Catholic Republican says you’re argument is wrong? nfbw 241206 Viasaf01241

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a misdemeanor.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a misdemeanor.

I know what your position is. Why is a Catholic poster here telling you your position is wrong? Is Saint Meriweather wrong? If so why? Make an argument. Defend your position..

 

[ding]

I know what your position is. Why is a Catholic poster here telling you your position is wrong? Is Saint Meriweather wrong? If so why. Make an argument. Defend your position..

I don't know any saints named meriweather. But are you under the impression that everyone must believe the same thing?