Zone1 I am stepping away from Judaism

[ding]

why insert "celebrating"? And why call it a human life. The whole point is that Jewish law doesn't see it as such.

Because it is a human life and because people are saddened by the loss of human life. That's why no one celebrates abortions, they mourn the lost life, they are sad.

500 years from now they will look at people like you as barbarians.

 

[rosends]

Read what I wrote. Your dehumanization of human life is the same as Hitler's dehumanization of human life.

Not all Jews - orthodox or otherwise - dehumanize human life like you do.

Show me an Orthodox Jew who says otherwise. I'll wait.

 

[rosends]

Because it is a human life and because people are saddened by the loss of human life.

Judaism is sad at the loss of potential life when a woman menstruates. That doesn't make menstrual material alive.

That's why no one celebrates abortions, they mourn the lost life, they are sad.

So no one claimed that anyone celebrates abortions. Another strawman.

500 years from now they will look at people like you as barbarians.

I'll call you then.

 

[ding]

why is your definition bound up in "genetically distinct"? The new genetics include unimplanted but fertilized eggs. So they are alive?

Because it's a new genetically distinct individual which marks the beginning of that human life; that human being.

 

[ding]

Show me an Orthodox Jew who says otherwise. I'll wait.

Show me everyone that does. I'll wait.

 

[rosends]

Because it's a new genetically distinct individual which marks the beginning of that human life; that human being.

it is a new and distinct clump of cells which has the potential to become a human being. See how easy that is?

 

[ding]

Judaism is sad at the loss of potential life when a woman menstruates. That doesn't make menstrual material alive.

So no one claimed that anyone celebrates abortions. Another strawman.

I'll call you then.

They should be sad at the loss of real human life.

 

[ding]

it is a new and distinct clump of cells which has the potential to become a human being. See how easy that is?

And your dehumanization of human life continues.

 

[rosends]

Show me everyone that does. I'll wait.

You claimed that all don't. Show me. You push it off on me and I can cite Orthodox Jewish law (actually, I already did). Unless you want to say "there are Orthodox Jews who break their own rules."

OK, fine. Some Jews break rules. That doesn't change what the religion teaches and what adherents believe.

 

[Meriweather]

You make it pretty clear that you're not open to a perspective of there not being a god.

But then again, you wouldn't be here if you aren't.

Actually, I am here because I know God is. Probably before you became a member, but I have noted a couple of times that Jesus' saying, "Blessed are those who have not seen yet believe." I believe because of my own experience(s) of God, not because of simply having faith like those who have been blessed because they believe without seeing/knowing.

 

[rosends]

They should be sad at the loss of real human life.

Jews are. Claiming otherwise is ignorant and hateful. But hey, once you call us morons and equate us with Hitler, I figure this is par for you.

 

[Lisa558]

why insert "celebrating"? And why call it a human life. The whole point is that Jewish law doesn't see it as such.

Jewish law considers it potential life, and does not support abortion on demand past the 40-day gestation, except in cases of life of the mother.

Please don’t give readers the idea that Judaism is a cold, heartless religion that has no problem with abortion. We have enough antisemites on this forum as it is.

Another View: Jewish Law Doesn't Permit Abortion On Demand

www.brandeis.edu

 

[rosends]

And your dehumanization of human life continues.

You never answered my question about the carpool lane. I guess you figure it isn't worth it so you will avoid it, like you did all tghe other questions.

 

[ding]

OK, fine. Some Jews break rules.

#winning

 

[rosends]

Jewish law considers it potential life, and does not support abortion on demand past the 40-day gestation, except in cases of life of the mother.

Please don’t give readers the idea that Judaism is a cold, heartless religion that has no problem with abortion. We have enough antisemites on this forum as it is.

Another View: Jewish Law Doesn't Permit Abortion On Demand

www.brandeis.edu

the fact that you establish a 40 day window is already enough to make you like Hitler apparently.

 

[ding]

You never answered my question about the carpool lane. I guess you figure it isn't worth it so you will avoid it, like you did all tghe other questions.

I don't respond to idiotic questions like that. You want to dehumanize human life like Hitler did, I'm fine with that. That's on you.

 

[Lisa558]

Jews are. Claiming otherwise is ignorant and hateful. But hey, once you call us morons and equate us with Hitler, I figure this is par for you.

Ding equated us with Hitler? I didn’t see that.

 

[rosends]

#winning

Feel free to hitch your wagon to people who break rules.

 

[ding]

the fact that you establish a 40 day window is already enough to make you like Hitler apparently.

No. It's that people like you will do anything to deny that human life begins at conception.

 

[Lisa558]

the fact that you establish a 40 day window is already enough to make you like Hitler apparently.

I didn’t establish the 40-day window. I am telling you that Judaism established that limit, for the sake of compassion.