Zone1 I am stepping away from Judaism

Not living beings, no. Not genetically distinct, no.

I think you would do or say anything to rationalize you aren't doing anything wrong.
So things are alive before conception. Got it. And the unimplanted fertilized egg which is expelled is manslaughter.
 
They are alive according to science. Or are you denying them life?
You got Ding cold turkey on this one.

You can stop debating the question on the egg and the cum being alive. Everybody knows they are.

Let him deflect and twitch with his faith on what's he's told to believe!
 
Don't know how you can deny personhood when unique DNA for that person exists.

is that true for a dragon fly - they also have babies and some use mife-miso so they will not overpopulate their pond ... the heavens have given their approval --- sorry bing.
 
So things are alive before conception. Got it. And the unimplanted fertilized egg which is expelled is manslaughter.
That egg on its own has zero chance to become a human. False conflation and you’re off topic. Both of you.
 
is that true for a dragon fly - they also have babies and some use mife-miso so they will not overpopulate their pond ... the heavens have given their approval --- sorry bing.
You just compared insects to humans. You truly are a defect.
 
That egg on its own has zero chance to become a human. False conflation and you’re off topic. Both of you.
You're wrong and the proof is that nobody fkd Mary.

You might need your faith to debate that one?
 
You know what the claim is. Very tough subject. Both sides fairly passionate about it.

You’re just playing coy and it’s disingenuous
No, I'm trying to assert a basis for questioning a claim. The statement was about life starting. If life already existed then either the terms need to be redefined or replaced. This is a fairly basic rhetorical move.
 
No, I'm trying to assert a basis for questioning a claim. The statement was about life starting. If life already existed then either the terms need to be redefined or replaced. This is a fairly basic rhetorical move.
It’s an opinion forum. You truly don’t believe a pregnant woman is carrying life? When we found out that my wife was pregnant we already loved the child that wasn’t going to come for another 7-mos. Losing her would have been devastating.

It was a life to us. A part of us. Most parents feel the same way. Some don’t and may abort but it should be rare and safe and not a freaking platform to run on. The Democratic Party is run by idiots as was reflected in the 2024 election and my people vote for them at an almost 80% clip. It’s absolutely disgusting. And not because of abortion. Because the party overtly hates Jews.
 
It’s an opinion forum. You truly don’t believe a pregnant woman is carrying life? When we found out that my wife was pregnant we already loved the child that wasn’t going to come for another 7-mos. Losing her would have been devastating.

It was a life to us. A part of us. Most parents feel the same way. Some don’t and may abort but it should be rare and safe and not a freaking platform to run on. The Democratic Party is run by idiots as was reflected in the 2024 election and my people vote for them at an almost 80% clip. It’s absolutely disgusting. And not because of abortion. Because the party overtly hates Jews.
I believe that a pregnant woman, for part of her pregnancy, is carrying a fetus. Judaism recognizes a loss of potential life so the loss of a fetus is cause for sadness.

Judaism, though, would not have someone sit Shiva for a miscarriage. One might mourn, but the laws that fall on "people" don't apply.
 
I believe that a pregnant woman, for part of her pregnancy, is carrying a fetus. Judaism recognizes a loss of potential life so the loss of a fetus is cause for sadness.
Yet to the Left it’s just par for the course. Do you recognize that? Yes or no? They are defects. Jews should never vote D again until that party reforms.
 
So you are saying that Jews are equated to Hitler.

Thanks for the clarification.

So far we have
Jews are equated to Hitler
Jews are morons
Jews are political animals
Cells aren't alive
Only the right scientists can have an opinion

Let's keep going
I'm sure you have other gems ready.
I'm not singling out Jews. I'm equating anyone who dehumanizes human life for the express purpose of rationalizing that they aren't ending a human life to Hitler.

It's hilarious watching you apply my comments about you to all Jews. Clearly you know you are losing to stoop to such dishonest tactics.
 
Why does it have to do with me? I quoted a scientist whom you said doesn't exist.
Your reading skills are as poor as your reasoning skills.
 
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I believe that a pregnant woman, for part of her pregnancy, is carrying a fetus. Judaism recognizes a loss of potential life so the loss of a fetus is cause for sadness.

Judaism, though, would not have someone sit Shiva for a miscarriage. One might mourn, but the laws that fall on "people" don't apply.
It's not a potential life. It's a life with potential. Same as you, just in a different stage of the human development cycle just like you.
 
So things are alive before conception. Got it. And the unimplanted fertilized egg which is expelled is manslaughter.
No. Is your kidney alive? Is your kidney a living being separate and distinct from you.

Please learn some science.
 
You got Ding cold turkey on this one.

You can stop debating the question on the egg and the cum being alive. Everybody knows they are.

Let him deflect and twitch with his faith on what's he's told to believe!
No, he didn't. Equating sperm and eggs to a genetically distinct human being is idiotic.
 
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