Zone1 I am stepping away from Judaism

[Donald H]

No, he didn't. Equating sperm and eggs to a genetically distinct human being is idiotic.

And once again: You can stop debating the question on the egg and the cum being alive. Everybody knows they are.

 

[ding]

And once again: You can stop debating the question on the egg and the cum being alive. Everybody knows they are.

What DNA do eggs have?

 

[Donald H]

What DNA do eggs have?

Ask modern science about identifying an egg by it's DNA.
or
Ask the police after they identify you as the rapist, from your cum you left behind.

 

[rosends]

Yet to the Left it’s just par for the course. Do you recognize that? Yes or no? They are defects. Jews should never vote D again until that party reforms.

I'm not here to discuss politics.

 

[ding]

Ask modern science about identifying an egg by it's DNA.
or
Ask the police after they identify you as the rapist, from your cum you left behind.

Is that your way of saying the eggs have the same DNA as the woman the eggs came from? Brilliant.

 

[rosends]

I'm not singling out Jews. I'm equating anyone who dehumanizes human life for the express purpose of rationalizing that they aren't ending a human life to Hitler.

It's hilarious watching you apply my comments about you to all Jews. Clearly you know you are losing to stoop to such dishonest tactics.

Your comments are about me only in that I present positions that you find abhorrent and equate to Hitler. As these exact positions are part of Orthodox Jewish theology, you are making the same pronouncement about all people who adhere to Orthodox Judaism. How else do you plan on distinguishing cases? Betcha can't.

 

[rosends]

Your reading skills are as poor as your reasoning skills.

This coming from someone who clearly doesn't read. Thanks.

 

[rosends]

It's not a potential life. It's a life with potential. Same as you, just in a different stage of the human development cycle just like you.

Not according to Jewish law. You don't have to like it. We don't care.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I'm not here to discuss politics.

Yet that’s exactly what you’re doing. Self awareness is important

 

[rosends]

No. Is your kidney alive?

Sure -- it is made of living tissue and cells. Take it out and you are a murderer. At least according to your logic.

Is your kidney a living being separate and distinct from you.

As much as a fetus is.

Please learn some science.

you mean like "cells are alive"? That's for you to learn.

 

[rosends]

Yet that’s exactly what you’re doing. Self awareness is important

I'm discussing religion. Your insistence that this is politics is your problem, not mine.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I'm discussing religion. Your insistence that this is politics is your problem, not mine.

They unfortunately are aligned

 

[rosends]

They unfortunately are aligned

if you insist that then that's on you. Don't tell me what I'm doing or thinking. You don't know how I vote; you don't know what I believe about politics.

 

[ding]

Your comments are about me only in that I present positions that you find abhorrent and equate to Hitler. As these exact positions are part of Orthodox Jewish theology, you are making the same pronouncement about all people who adhere to Orthodox Judaism. How else do you plan on distinguishing cases? Betcha can't.

Actually I am showing you how your dehumanization of human lives is the same as Hitler's dehumanization of human lives or the slave owners dehumanization of human lives.

What you do with that knowledge is up to you. I'm not making a religious argument or a Jewish argument. Not all religious people see abortion the same way. Not all Jewish people see abortion the same way. I am stating reality. If you don't believe abortion is ending the life of a new and genetically distinct human being then it can only be because you believe abortion would be wrong if you did believe that and you don't want to believe that.

 

[rosends]

Actually I am showing you how your dehumanization of human lives is the same as Hitler's dehumanization of human lives or the slave owners dehumanization of human lives.

So I and anyone who believes as I do are equated to Hitler. That would be all Orthodox Jews. Good job.

What you do with that knowledge is up to you. I'm not making a religious argument or a Jewish argument. Not all religious people see abortion the same way. Not all Jews people see abortion the same way. I am stating reality. If you don't believe abortion is ending the life of a new and genetically distinct human being then it can only because you believe abortion would be wrong if you did believe that.

Now you want to insist something about "all Jews." I mentioned all Orthodox Jews. If you believe that a fetus is a full fledged life then you can drive in the carpool lane while pregnant and it counts as 2 people, right?

 

[ding]

Not according to Jewish law. You don't have to like it. We don't care.

I would be shocked if Jewish law celebrated the ending of a human life.

 

[ding]

Sure -- it is made of living tissue and cells. Take it out and you are a murderer. At least according to your logic.

As much as a fetus is.

you mean like "cells are alive"? That's for you to learn.

Maybe research the characteristics of living things. Maybe research what genetically distinct means.

 

[ding]

So I and anyone who believes as I do are equated to Hitler. That would be all Orthodox Jews. Good job.

Now you want to insist something about "all Jews." I mentioned all Orthodox Jews. If you believe that a fetus is a full fledged life then you can drive in the carpool lane while pregnant and it counts as 2 people, right?

Read what I wrote. Your dehumanization of human life is the same as Hitler's dehumanization of human life.

Not all Jews - orthodox or otherwise - dehumanize human life like you do.

 

[rosends]

I would be shocked if Jewish law celebrated the ending of a human life.

why insert "celebrating"? And why call it a human life. The whole point is that Jewish law doesn't see it as such.

 

[rosends]

Maybe research the characteristics of living things. Maybe research what genetically distinct means.

why is your definition bound up in "genetically distinct"? The new genetics include unimplanted but fertilized eggs. So they are alive?