Zone1 I am stepping away from Judaism

As this is a discussion forum I am not trying to convince you--or anyone--of anything. A little about myself: As a in a large family, and then later as I entered school, I was fascinated by all the different perspectives around me. Just as some collect stamps and coins, I have always collected perspectives. My mom was always black-and-white on perspectives: Hers was right, and everyone else was wrong. I am not in that realm, I exist in the grey, and I very much enjoy exploring the various shades in grey.

One of the reasons I fall so hard for God, is throughout time, God has been in our midst, has met us where we are, and led and guided us to something--not only better--but greater. He did this in Egypt, from slavery to freedom--and along the way it seems the Jewish people were among the first to turn away from owning slaves themselves. Joseph was in a well...then in prison...and was led/guided to be an advisor to a king. Jonah ran...even so, was led/guided to save a city. Examples continue in the Christian New Testament and many are rooted in Jewish teachings where there is even a higher, finer level: Don't commit adultery, don't even lust. Don't go the required distance, go twice the required distance. Don't kill, and don't remain angry.

Something greater....What is greater than divorce? Working out marriage vows through love. Greater than abortion? Welcoming new life.

A non-religious way of thinking is, Do we settle for what is easiest (become settlers) or do we travel on over the difficulties of mountains and valleys (become pioneers).
It's easier for you to just accept god and religion.

Listen to Jordan Peterson for an example of the mental anguish involved for men of far greater intelligence than the normal. He got himself in a mental institution over the question of a god existing. Now he's at least moved on from believing in the god of the bibles. I don't think he will ever find peace. He'll find his way back to the insane asylum.
The last thing about me: I said I came from a large family where babies were ALWAYS arriving at the most inconvenient times possible. It all worked out. We would have missed out on so many gifts over our lives if our parents had taken a more convenient option.

All that aside, I was seeking a discussion on the reflection, is God leading us to something finer in our lives, a finer way of life, a life of pure love, pure goodness, which is the life He leads. While abortion, like slavery, is worth considering, what else is society immersed in that God is leading/guiding us out of? Or is He? Did He leave off on that, or do you have another perspective on how God works with us?
Are you really open to perspectives?

You make it pretty clear that you're not open to a perspective of there not being a god.

But then again, you wouldn't be here if you aren't.

Every one of us are here for the same basic reason!
 
By telling me that the Bible is not divine and that I am following man, isn't that what has been done to me? But it is wrong if I bounce it right back? Interesting.
Two wrongs make a right?
 
* hint -

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yours is no different ...
Ahem yeah it is. You ignoramous
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Did you tell that to the scientist I pointed out?
He did not deny that a new genetically distinct human being comes into existence at conception. How could he? That's the science.
 
No. It doesn't. Only when the egg is fertilized does life begin. Learn some science.
So the egg isn't alive? Says who? Scientists say cells are alive.
 
So just to be clear, you are equating Jews with Hitler?
No. I'm equating anyone who dehumanizes human life for the express purpose of rationalizing that they aren't ending a human life to Hitler.
 
So the egg isn't alive? Says who? Scientists say cells are alive.
The egg is not a new genetically distinct human being. The zygote is. The egg has the genetics of the mother. The sperm has the genetics of the father. Neither the egg or the sperm are living beings as defined by science. Learn some science.
 
did not deny that a new genetically distinct human being comes into existence at conception. How could he? That's the science.
"the statement is commonly offered by religious organizations and is often cited as the basis for so-called personhood amendments, but the assertion that it is scientifically sound is incorrect."

Maybe you missed that.
 
The egg is not a new genetically distinct human being. The zygote is. The egg has the genetics of the mother. The sperm has the genetics of the father. Neither the egg or the sperm are living beings as defined by science. Learn some science.
They are alive according to science. Or are you denying them life?
 
The values of Christianity are being aborted by those associateing it with nationalism and racism..
I feel differently. The Left overtly hates us and we are overwhelmingly still supporting them. I cannot rationalize this.

Evil has won.

only for the deluded - sheep dipped boy scout ...

* no longer boy scouts, they now include girls - of course for country illiterates, sheep still appear no.1 for them.
 
"the statement is commonly offered by religious organizations and is often cited as the basis for so-called personhood amendments, but the assertion that it is scientifically sound is incorrect."

Maybe you missed that.
Don't know how you can deny personhood when unique DNA for that person exists.
 
They are alive according to science. Or are you denying them life?
Not living beings, no. Not genetically distinct, no.

I think you would do or say anything to rationalize you aren't doing anything wrong.
 
No. I'm equating anyone who dehumanizes human life for the express purpose of rationalizing that they aren't ending a human life to Hitler.
So you are saying that Jews are equated to Hitler.

Thanks for the clarification.

So far we have
Jews are equated to Hitler
Jews are morons
Jews are political animals
Cells aren't alive
Only the right scientists can have an opinion

Let's keep going
I'm sure you have other gems ready.
 
Don't know how you can deny personhood when unique DNA for that person exists.
Why does it have to do with me? I quoted a scientist whom you said doesn't exist.
 

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