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Yes, it is not the evangelical voter's position that a child should be legally stripped of even the hope of a mother or father as a matter of binding contract (gay marriage) for life... Should they learn Donald Trump considers gay marriage "beautiful", that might steal a vote or two from Trump and send it over to the candidate (name still pending here) who comes out as adamantly and vocally and specifically opposed to GAY marriage...and doesn't just dance around it in a general way..
What about children whose parents are assholes?
Don't they have rights?
Shouldn't we make sure assholes are not allowed to marry?
Or better yet, poll his followers and then ask him about gay marriage on live TV at the next debate.
Because you see, the majority of his followers, probably I'd guess around 90% range, all follow him because they see him a conservative reconstructor. They identify as conservative, obviously since he declares himself republican officially, but they like him most because he projects a spine where they see their erstwhile loyalties utterly lacking one. In short, the Trumpsters are conservatives who feel betrayed. They are the folks who sat and watched Kim Davis get jailed for refusing to play along with two dudes having butt sex and telling the kids involved "we are equal to mom and dad..so just accept it!".
They are blue collar people by and large, who are roughly the same as these folks and why they appear in such massive numbers: Understanding the Factions of the Electorate: the Glue that Binds Them
Now as I understand it, Donald Trump has been quite quiet about his true feelings on the topic. He's smart after all. And, Trump knows the rest of the candidates don't want to open that can of worms because they're all believing the Rove-machine that "most people support gay marriage". When you understand Rove takes his orders from Dick Cheney, with a stake in that game since his daughter is a lesbian (and he dodged the draft 5 times, and he and his wife were raised by democrats, and he praised Obama about the Bin Laden affair), you understand why the "conservative establishment" won't go near gay marriage with a ten foot pole....And yet it remains the sure way to unravel the Trump supporters and bring them back to the fold. It's an ironic impasse and opportunities missed in the past have not boded well for the Rove machine's "wisdom" played out at the voting booth (2008, 2012 & now 2016..?)
Trump is obviously ready to capitulate and leave the matter alone. In fact, Trump attended a gay wedding and said it was beautiful.. He has attended a number of them actually. Trump tells us we just "have to be realistic about it..." (as "inevitable"..) Real hard stance against gay marriage there.
Billionaire reality TV star/2016 Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump was recently asked what he would tell a child who asked him about his opposition to gay marriage. Trump’s response: ignore the question....“I’ve gone to gay weddings,” he continued. “I’ve been at gay weddings....“We’ll just see how it all comes out,” he concluded,...recently he declared the issue officially “dead.” Donald Trump stumbles through explaining his opposition to gay marriage
Way to go slugger! There's a real spine there...uh huh...I'm sure he'll keep future Kim Davis' out of jail... When push comes to shove it is easy to see where his sentiments on the topic lie.. Would he fiercely advocate for Christians? Or tell them "just accept it and follow the law"...? I think we all know the answer to that question.
It's time to let his follower's know they are behind a rainbow in conservative's clothing. Let his followers know there are some issues the Donald doesn't have a spine to tackle. See how that pans out for him in the S. Carolina primary and others..
I've seen the GOP try to expose Trump as a RINO to his followers on all other types of issues the Rove gang think will spark a visceral revulsion to Trump in his followers...to no avail...he just keeps getting more popular...
...Try this one and see how popular he is in the aftermath of his fumbling...
vv Actually, the topic isn't "funny". It's serious. In fact it's VERY SERIOUS when children are legally bifurcated from either a mother or father for life as a matter of binding contract. And I've noticed that when someone from the LGBT crowd tags an OP as "funny" it's their attempt to diminish how fearful they are of it being seriously discussed...or, perhaps, someone from Donald's inside camp worried about it being seriously discussed...............
Dude, I agree with you. Faggotry is disgusting. I am a Cruz supporter. However, I disagree with it being a national security risk.Fag knocking is not within Article I of the constitution. Therefore, leave it to Arts. 2 and 3, or better yet, leave it to the states.
This isn't a thread about people being against homosexuals individually. It's a thread about them being against forcing children as a new matter of law to go their entire life without either a mother or father.. You know so-called "gay marriage" forced on all 50 states' societies without their permission.. and how Trump describes the gay ceremonies he went to as "beautiful"....hardly even a moderate conservative value...
Literally every Trump supporter knows what his stances were and are...Trump supporter: I don't care.
It's a tiny little issue on which people disagree...
Perfect! So asking him about his stance on gay marriage and his "coming out" as soft and tacitly accepting of it shouldn't hurt him at all. So your vote in the poll would be "yes" with no consequences to Trump...right?
You only label white posters "racist", which means you are racist.Let's ask them. Let's ask them how they feel about Obergefell. Surely it couldn't hurt?100% of Trump supporters are concerned with ONE issue...Paycheck.
Lots of Trump supporters on the boards- Stevie the racist, Odium the white Supremacist, Sharpshooter the racist....why not ask them?
I'm not a racist and I Syriusly only have ONE concern...a Paycheck!
Certainly not all of Trump's supporters are racists- I absolutely believe you.
But here at USMB? He appears to be the number one choice of USMB racists.
Hillary doesn't love eminent domain?The radical fringe of the democrat party is hopeless but I bet the moderates in the democrat party lean toward Trump rather than the old commie or the crazy lady who thinks "there is a special place in hell".
Of course the reverse also works- there are moderates in the Republican Party who will lean toward Hillary rather than let a crazy blow hard multiple bankruptcy filing, eminent domain loving crazy who thinks that all Mexicans who come to the United States are rapists.
Or better yet, poll his followers and then ask him about gay marriage on live TV at the next debate.
Because you see, the majority of his followers, probably I'd guess around 90% range, all follow him because they see him a conservative reconstructor. They identify as conservative, obviously since he declares himself republican officially, but they like him most because he projects a spine where they see their erstwhile loyalties utterly lacking one. In short, the Trumpsters are conservatives who feel betrayed. They are the folks who sat and watched Kim Davis get jailed for refusing to play along with two dudes having butt sex and telling the kids involved "we are equal to mom and dad..so just accept it!".
They are blue collar people by and large, who are roughly the same as these folks and why they appear in such massive numbers: Understanding the Factions of the Electorate: the Glue that Binds Them
Now as I understand it, Donald Trump has been quite quiet about his true feelings on the topic. He's smart after all. And, Trump knows the rest of the candidates don't want to open that can of worms because they're all believing the Rove-machine that "most people support gay marriage". When you understand Rove takes his orders from Dick Cheney, with a stake in that game since his daughter is a lesbian (and he dodged the draft 5 times, and he and his wife were raised by democrats, and he praised Obama about the Bin Laden affair), you understand why the "conservative establishment" won't go near gay marriage with a ten foot pole....And yet it remains the sure way to unravel the Trump supporters and bring them back to the fold. It's an ironic impasse and opportunities missed in the past have not boded well for the Rove machine's "wisdom" played out at the voting booth (2008, 2012 & now 2016..?)
Trump is obviously ready to capitulate and leave the matter alone. In fact, Trump attended a gay wedding and said it was beautiful.. He has attended a number of them actually. Trump tells us we just "have to be realistic about it..." (as "inevitable"..) Real hard stance against gay marriage there.
Billionaire reality TV star/2016 Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump was recently asked what he would tell a child who asked him about his opposition to gay marriage. Trump’s response: ignore the question....“I’ve gone to gay weddings,” he continued. “I’ve been at gay weddings....“We’ll just see how it all comes out,” he concluded,...recently he declared the issue officially “dead.” Donald Trump stumbles through explaining his opposition to gay marriage
Way to go slugger! There's a real spine there...uh huh...
It's time to let his follower's know they are behind a rainbow in conservative's clothing. Let his followers know there are some issues the Donald doesn't have a spine to tackle. See how that pans out for him in the S. Carolina primary and others..
I've seen the GOP try to expose Trump as a RINO to his followers on all other types of issues the Rove gang think will spark a visceral revulsion to Trump in his followers...to no avail...he just keeps getting more popular...
...Try this one and see how popular he is in the aftermath of his fumbling...
vv Actually, the topic isn't "funny". It's serious. In fact it's VERY SERIOUS when children are legally bifurcated from either a mother or father for life as a matter of binding contract. And I've noticed that when someone from the LGBT crowd tags an OP as "funny" it's their attempt to diminish how fearful they are of it being seriously discussed...or, perhaps, someone from Donald's inside camp worried about it being seriously discussed...............
I still haven't figured out why people think Trump is a conservative. Many of his stands are moderate to liberal, that's why he always supported Bill Clinton.
I consider parents as either good parents or bad parentsYes, it is not the evangelical voter's position that a child should be legally stripped of even the hope of a mother or father as a matter of binding contract (gay marriage) for life... Should they learn Donald Trump considers gay marriage "beautiful", that might steal a vote or two from Trump and send it over to the candidate (name still pending here) who comes out as adamantly and vocally and specifically opposed to GAY marriage...and doesn't just dance around it in a general way..What about children whose parents are assholes?
Don't they have rights?
Shouldn't we make sure assholes are not allowed to marry?
Tell me...would you consider a parent who seeks to legally strip their child of either a mother or father for life, as a matter of binding contract, no matter what the child's protest to that...as an "asshole"? I would. So, I see we are both on the same page ideologically....
Or better yet, poll his followers and then ask him about gay marriage on live TV at the next debate.
Because you see, the majority of his followers, probably I'd guess around 90% range, all follow him because they see him a conservative reconstructor. They identify as conservative, obviously since he declares himself republican officially, but they like him most because he projects a spine where they see their erstwhile loyalties utterly lacking one. In short, the Trumpsters are conservatives who feel betrayed. They are the folks who sat and watched Kim Davis get jailed for refusing to play along with two dudes having butt sex and telling the kids involved "we are equal to mom and dad..so just accept it!".
They are blue collar people by and large, who are roughly the same as these folks and why they appear in such massive numbers: Understanding the Factions of the Electorate: the Glue that Binds Them
Now as I understand it, Donald Trump has been quite quiet about his true feelings on the topic. He's smart after all. And, Trump knows the rest of the candidates don't want to open that can of worms because they're all believing the Rove-machine that "most people support gay marriage". When you understand Rove takes his orders from Dick Cheney, with a stake in that game since his daughter is a lesbian (and he dodged the draft 5 times, and he and his wife were raised by democrats, and he praised Obama about the Bin Laden affair), you understand why the "conservative establishment" won't go near gay marriage with a ten foot pole....And yet it remains the sure way to unravel the Trump supporters and bring them back to the fold. It's an ironic impasse and opportunities missed in the past have not boded well for the Rove machine's "wisdom" played out at the voting booth (2008, 2012 & now 2016..?)
Trump is obviously ready to capitulate and leave the matter alone. In fact, Trump attended a gay wedding and said it was beautiful.. He has attended a number of them actually. Trump tells us we just "have to be realistic about it..." (as "inevitable"..) Real hard stance against gay marriage there.
Billionaire reality TV star/2016 Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump was recently asked what he would tell a child who asked him about his opposition to gay marriage. Trump’s response: ignore the question....“I’ve gone to gay weddings,” he continued. “I’ve been at gay weddings....“We’ll just see how it all comes out,” he concluded,...recently he declared the issue officially “dead.” Donald Trump stumbles through explaining his opposition to gay marriage
Way to go slugger! There's a real spine there...uh huh...
It's time to let his follower's know they are behind a rainbow in conservative's clothing. Let his followers know there are some issues the Donald doesn't have a spine to tackle. See how that pans out for him in the S. Carolina primary and others..
I've seen the GOP try to expose Trump as a RINO to his followers on all other types of issues the Rove gang think will spark a visceral revulsion to Trump in his followers...to no avail...he just keeps getting more popular...
...Try this one and see how popular he is in the aftermath of his fumbling...
vv Actually, the topic isn't "funny". It's serious. In fact it's VERY SERIOUS when children are legally bifurcated from either a mother or father for life as a matter of binding contract. And I've noticed that when someone from the LGBT crowd tags an OP as "funny" it's their attempt to diminish how fearful they are of it being seriously discussed...or, perhaps, someone from Donald's inside camp worried about it being seriously discussed...............
I still haven't figured out why people think Trump is a conservative. Many of his stands are moderate to liberal, that's why he always supported Bill Clinton.
We should be more concerned with their ability to parent than their sexuality
You have got to let this go at some point. It's invalid to keep harping on this. The war is over, the dead have been buried, you are a hand reaching out from the grave and no one will pull you up. You lost J, you are going to have to, for your own mental health, let this go. Even if you're right, and you aren't, this is not a society that does the best thing for children and it never has and it never will. Let it go, not for me or anyone else, but for yourself. Life will go on and you are truly concerned about the welfare of children there is plenty of bad parenting out there to work on. The children of 2% of the population will manage, alternate lifestyle of mommy and daddy regardless.We should be more concerned with their ability to parent than their sexuality
We agree. Therefore you'll be against gay marriage since two dudes are incapable of providing the necessary mothering children need and two women are incapable of providing the necessary father-guidance they need. Two dudes are NOT ABLE to be a mother to children. Two women are NOT ABLE to be a father to children.
Sorry, as long as children are stripped of their contractual rights to both a mother and father in marriage, the issue is quite live. As long as Christians go to jail for refusing to play along with your cult's dogma, this issue is quite live..You have got to let this go at some point. It's invalid to keep harping on this. The war is over, the dead have been buried, you are a hand reaching out from the grave and no one will pull you up. You lost J, you are going to have to, for your own mental health, let this go. Even if you're right, and you aren't, this is not a society that does the best thing for children and it never has and it never will. Let it go, not for me or anyone else, but for yourself. Life will go on and you are truly concerned about the welfare of children there is plenty of bad parenting out there to work on. The children of 2% of the population will manage, alternate lifestyle of mommy and daddy regardless.
Of course you can ask but it's an utterly stupid question. We have single parents all over the place and the simple math, which you completely ignore trying to get back to Leave It To Beaver (which never existed), is two parents are always better than one. Their gender matters little, if at all. Four parents would even be better, more time, more money, more views on life, etc.Sorry, as long as children are stripped of their contractual rights to both a mother and father in marriage, the issue is quite live. As long as Christians go to jail for refusing to play along with your cult's dogma, this issue is quite live..You have got to let this go at some point. It's invalid to keep harping on this. The war is over, the dead have been buried, you are a hand reaching out from the grave and no one will pull you up. You lost J, you are going to have to, for your own mental health, let this go. Even if you're right, and you aren't, this is not a society that does the best thing for children and it never has and it never will. Let it go, not for me or anyone else, but for yourself. Life will go on and you are truly concerned about the welfare of children there is plenty of bad parenting out there to work on. The children of 2% of the population will manage, alternate lifestyle of mommy and daddy regardless.
Nobody has to let anything go "Dr. PaintMyHouse". Thanks for the advice, but no thanks.. And since it's such a dead issue, you'll not be worried about Trump being called out for also calling it "a dead issue" and attending several gay weddings which he called "beautiful". Trump can be asked if he thinks stripping kids of either a mother or father for life is also "beautiful"...
And it fails every damn time.Just keep in mind that the core support for Trump is based on his protectionist, nativist anti-foreigner beliefs,
or professed beliefs. Everything else is relatively unimportant.
It's a Ross Perot Plus constituency. It's a brand of populism as old as America.
Hey, so I'll put you down too as "not worried" about the questions in post #111 & #113 to be put to Mr. Trump...as to how it will affect his campaign...Just keep in mind that the core support for Trump is based on his protectionist, nativist anti-foreigner beliefs,
or professed beliefs. Everything else is relatively unimportant.
It's a Ross Perot Plus constituency. It's a brand of populism as old as America.
Yes, it is not the evangelical voter's position that a child should be legally stripped of even the hope of a mother or father as a matter of binding contract (gay marriage) for life... Should they learn Donald Trump considers gay marriage "beautiful", that might steal a vote or two from Trump and send it over to the candidate (name still pending here) who comes out as adamantly and vocally and specifically opposed to GAY marriage...and doesn't just dance around it in a general way..But what about the children whose parents just had their jobs off-shore?!!!!!!
Tell you what. We'll ask Donald that question directly after ..
None of it has to do with the marriage contract terms, shared with Infants up until 2015 when the Court decided children didn't need representation at the revision Hearing. A marriage contract was invented over a thousand years ago to provide BOTH a mother and a father to children.Sil, see if you can honestly answer this question. For the benefit of the child you can have one parent same sex, or one parent opposite sex, or two parents you don't get to pick the sex. Which one, for the child, is best?
