How long will hardcore MAGAs stomach Trump's Forever War in the Middle East?

The strait is open. No other people's oil is moving.

The regime will be here long after Trump dies or leaves office.
The regime is on it's last legs. They are mosquitoes buzzing around an elephant. Their only hope is if they can hold on until November and have the Democrats win back the House. Think about what that says about today's Democrat Party! The worlds biggest sponsor of terror's only chance of survival is if Democrats get elected!
 
The regime is on it's last legs. They are mosquitoes buzzing around an elephant. Their only hope is if they can hold on until November and have the Democrats win back the House. Think about what that says about today's Democrat Party! The worlds biggest sponsor of terror's only chance of survival is if Democrats get elected!
Good heavens, what nonsense. The IRGC will be around many years after Trump is gone and dead.
 
You STILL haven't explained how the IRGC manages to support itself when Trump's blockade prevents them from selling Iranian oil!
They will get money from Russia and China. Exactly for distraction of American Navy and destruction of the western energy-dependent (especially weapon-producing) industries.
 
They will get money from Russia and China. Exactly for distraction of American Navy and destruction of the western energy-dependent (especially weapon-producing) industries.
That is laughable. Russia has no money to spare, and China doesn't want more tariffs on their stuff.
What "destruction" of weapon-producing industries? They are quadrupling production rates.
 
They will get money from Russia and China. Exactly for distraction of American Navy and destruction of the western energy-dependent (especially weapon-producing) industries.
Not gonna happen. Putin's war against Ukraine has left Russia broke. China's already stagnant economy is getting hammered because it's having to buy oil elsewhere instead of from Iran at a huge discount. There isn't a country on earth that wants this conflict over more than China and Trump knows it!
 
That is laughable. Russia has no money to spare, and China doesn't want more tariffs on their stuff.
Of course Russia has money (and this amount has significantly increased since the start of blockade) and China is quite interested in distraction of US Navy to add some pressure on Taiwan separatists.

What "destruction" of weapon-producing industries? They are quadrupling production rates.
Only in money. In natural meaning, in the actual amount of explosives, powders, tanks, UAVs, rifles... C'mon, European Chemical industry is dead, and without chemical industry you can't make weapons.
 
Of course Russia has money (and this amount has significantly increased since the start of blockade) and China is quite interested in distraction of US Navy to add some pressure on Taiwan separatists.


Only in money. In natural meaning, in the actual amount of explosives, powders, tanks, UAVs, rifles... C'mon, European Chemical industry is dead, and without chemical industry you can't make weapons.
If this blockade continues the two countries hurt most by it will be Iran and then China. The Chinese economy was already stagnant BEFORE this conflict started! One of their biggest advantages for that economy was that they were able to buy oil from Iran at a huge discount. Now they're getting zero oil from Iran and are having to buy on the global market. Their energy costs are much higher now...another brake on their already struggling economy.
 
You have to prove the IRGC can't provide itself from Trump's supposed blockade.
It's obvious that they can't. Their only way to generate revenue is from oil sales. Their only way to ship that oil to buyers is by sea. The US totally controls those seas. Nothing comes out of Iran...nothing gets in. That's checkmate, Trump! Iran's normal response to sanctions or conflicts is to simply wait them out. They can't do that now. They have to make a deal before their oil storage is full because at that point they HAVE to shut down pumping and doing so will cause massive damage to their future oil output! This whole conflict is a masterclass by Trump on how to use economics to destroy an enemy.
 
Anti-Maga is becoming a universal item.


Saudi Arabia has suspended the U.S. military’s ability to use its bases and airspace for operations against Iran, according to May 2026 reports. This decision follows warnings from regional allies that a U.S. strike could trigger a major conflict, leading to a reversal of U.S. plans to secure the Strait of Hormuz. [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • Saudi Arabia Restricts Access: The kingdom has officially blocked the U.S. from utilizing its airbases or airspace for military action targeting Iran to prevent regional escalation.
  • Regional Reversal: Following pressure from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Oman, the U.S. halted a planned, potentially offensive operation, known as "Project Freedom".
  • Wider Strategic Shift: This reflects a growing trend where Middle Eastern partners are restricting U.S. base use to avoid being drawn into conflict with Iran.
  • Similar Issues in Europe: Concurrent reports indicate strained military relations in Europe, where Italy, Spain, and France have restricted U.S. access to bases for similar operations, leading to threats of a U.S. troop drawdown. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]
 
If this blockade continues the two countries hurt most by it will be Iran and then China. The Chinese economy was already stagnant BEFORE this conflict started! One of their biggest advantages for that economy was that they were able to buy oil from Iran at a huge discount. Now they're getting zero oil from Iran and are having to buy on the global market. Their energy costs are much higher now...another brake on their already struggling economy.
They do buy oil from Russia by long-term contracts with relatively low price and their competitors can't buy anything.
And you know, "while the fat one dries, the thin ones die". China has a lot of reserves and America still selling its reserves, decreasing its chances in the future war.
 
Anti-Maga is becoming a universal item.


Saudi Arabia has suspended the U.S. military’s ability to use its bases and airspace for operations against Iran, according to May 2026 reports. This decision follows warnings from regional allies that a U.S. strike could trigger a major conflict, leading to a reversal of U.S. plans to secure the Strait of Hormuz. [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • Saudi Arabia Restricts Access: The kingdom has officially blocked the U.S. from utilizing its airbases or airspace for military action targeting Iran to prevent regional escalation.
  • Regional Reversal: Following pressure from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Oman, the U.S. halted a planned, potentially offensive operation, known as "Project Freedom".
  • Wider Strategic Shift: This reflects a growing trend where Middle Eastern partners are restricting U.S. base use to avoid being drawn into conflict with Iran.
  • Similar Issues in Europe: Concurrent reports indicate strained military relations in Europe, where Italy, Spain, and France have restricted U.S. access to bases for similar operations, leading to threats of a U.S. troop drawdown. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]
In what sense are these countries allies if they not only refuse to help us but put obstacles in our way?
 
They do buy oil from Russia by long-term contracts with relatively low price and their competitors can't buy anything.
And you know, "while the fat one dries, the thin ones die". China has a lot of reserves and America still selling its reserves, decreasing its chances in the future war.
China has enough oil reserves to cover an estimated 80 to 90 days, Zavulon. They are one of the world's biggest oil importers. 15% of their oil comes from Iran and they've bought that oil at a substantial discount. The issue for China in this conflict however is that 50% of their imported oil comes through the Straight of Hormuz and that oil is no longer coming. They need this conflict to be over in a big way. They are NOT going to support Iran if it means that the blockade continues!
 
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They do buy oil from Russia by long-term contracts with relatively low price and their competitors can't buy anything.
And you know, "while the fat one dries, the thin ones die". China has a lot of reserves and America still selling its reserves, decreasing its chances in the future war.
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China has enough oil reserves to cover an estimated 80 to 90 days, Zavulon. They are one of the world's biggest oil importers. 15% if their oil comes from Iran and they've bought that oil at a substantial discount. The issue for China in this conflict however is that 50% of their imported oil comes through the Straight of Hormuz and that oil is no longer coming. They need this conflict to be over in a big way. They are NOT going to support Iran if it means that the blockade continues!
If they do not support Iran, and America wins, they lose not only cheap Iranian oil, they lose their One Belt trade route too, say nothing about unlocked American Navy, which might try to intervene while they are returning Taiwan. So, they may support Iran to continue war, or can invest more, but proxy-win this war against America. And if they win - and America leaves Middle East, it might worth a lot. Their potential victory in Middle East might even create a new reality of petro-yuan for China and some kind of "gas OPEC" for Russia.
 
If they do not support Iran, and America wins, they lose not only cheap Iranian oil, they lose their One Belt trade route too, say nothing about unlocked American Navy, which might try to intervene while they are returning Taiwan. So, they may support Iran to continue war, or can invest more, but proxy-win this war against America. And if they win - and America leaves Middle East, it might worth a lot. Their potential victory in Middle East might even create a new reality of petro-yuan for China and some kind of "gas OPEC" for Russia.
How do you see Iran "winning" this war? In what possible way does that take place?
 
If they do not support Iran, and America wins, they lose not only cheap Iranian oil, they lose their One Belt trade route too, say nothing about unlocked American Navy, which might try to intervene while they are returning Taiwan. So, they may support Iran to continue war, or can invest more, but proxy-win this war against America. And if they win - and America leaves Middle East, it might worth a lot. Their potential victory in Middle East might even create a new reality of petro-yuan for China and some kind of "gas OPEC" for Russia.
China would lose more in an economic war with the US than it could hope to gain from discounted oil from Iran, so there is no possibility of Chian bailing the ayatollahs out and Russia has pretty much abandoned its former ME interests. Even the rhetoric from Russia and China is subdued. The only real friends the ayatollahs have are the US Democrats.
 
It's obvious that they can't. Their only way to generate revenue is from oil sales. Their only way to ship that oil to buyers is by sea. The US totally controls those seas. Nothing comes out of Iran...nothing gets in. That's checkmate, Trump! Iran's normal response to sanctions or conflicts is to simply wait them out. They can't do that now. They have to make a deal before their oil storage is full because at that point they HAVE to shut down pumping and doing so will cause massive damage to their future oil output! This whole conflict is a masterclass by Trump on how to use economics to destroy an enemy.
Iran sure does not look like its breaking anytime soon.

I wonder if TACO has lost interest in this.

Cuba is what he wants.
 
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