How do we Know Human are Causing Climate Change?

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For the past 3 million years when the northern hemisphere glaciates the planet - oceans and atmosphere - cools. And when the northern hemisphere deglaciates the planet - oceans and atmosphere - warms.

 

[EMH]

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is 100% about land being 600 miles to the pole or closer. All land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, outside not.

What Bozo the "climate scientist" doesn't want you to know is here...

The warmers need to explain the Arctic Circle's ice pattern, and how Co2 is responsible...

The map is clear. 7% of Earth ice is on Greenland. Why is there ice on Greenland south of the Arctic Circle, and no ice north of the Arctic Circle on Alaska? Co2 and sun do not explain this. The only explanation is the Greenland is within 600 miles of the pole at the top, and hence...

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Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

What is an ICE AGE? Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice...

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The lies of Milankovich Cycles aka McBullshit - where was land mass Antarctica 70 million years ago

McBullshit claims Antarctica has been on the South Pole forever, it never moved at all. And, while it is on the South Pole, it has rapidly gone from ice age to tropical paradise and back over and over.... a Dennis Quaid theory for sure... We know that Antarctica has 70 million year old...

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How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

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is 100% about land being 600 miles to the pole or closer. All land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, outside not.

What Bozo the "climate scientist" doesn't want you to know is here...

The warmers need to explain the Arctic Circle's ice pattern, and how Co2 is responsible...

The map is clear. 7% of Earth ice is on Greenland. Why is there ice on Greenland south of the Arctic Circle, and no ice north of the Arctic Circle on Alaska? Co2 and sun do not explain this. The only explanation is the Greenland is within 600 miles of the pole at the top, and hence...

www.usmessageboard.com

Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

What is an ICE AGE? Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice...

www.usmessageboard.com

The lies of Milankovich Cycles aka McBullshit - where was land mass Antarctica 70 million years ago

McBullshit claims Antarctica has been on the South Pole forever, it never moved at all. And, while it is on the South Pole, it has rapidly gone from ice age to tropical paradise and back over and over.... a Dennis Quaid theory for sure... We know that Antarctica has 70 million year old...

www.usmessageboard.com

How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

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Land doesn't move back and forth every 100,000 years.

 

[EMH]

Land doesn't move back and forth every 100,000 years.

Correct, and Greenland froze while North America thawed at the same time.

 

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Correct, and Greenland froze while North America thawed at the same time.

Explain the other 29 glacial cycles. Because land does not move back an forth, dummy.

 

[EMH]

Explain the other 29 glacial cycles. Because land does not move back an forth, dummy.

The glacial/interglacial bullshit tries to claim Earth warms and cools as a whole. Greenland freezing while North America was thawing completely disproves that.

 

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The glacial/interglacial bullshit tries to claim Earth warms and cools as a whole. Greenland freezing while North America was thawing completely disproves that.

 

[EMH]

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So how did Greenland freeze while North America thawed at the same time...???

10k
20k
50k
1 million

years, TAKE YOUR PICK...


You and crock have unlimited color fudge charts. What you don't have is any truth at all...

 

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So how did Greenland freeze while North America thawed at the same time...???

10k
20k
50k
1 million

years, TAKE YOUR PICK...


You and crock have unlimited color fudge charts. What you don't have is any truth at all...

Glacial cycles did happen and the Arctic did glaciate and deglaciate. And that did affect temperatures around the planet. There's tons of evidence for this. And it's not because land moved back and forth.

You have no evidence for your batshit crazy beliefs.

 

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So how did Greenland freeze while North America thawed at the same time...???

10k
20k
50k
1 million

years, TAKE YOUR PICK...


You and crock have unlimited color fudge charts. What you don't have is any truth at all...

That you argue against glacial cycles can only mean you are trying to muddy the waters because your are an AGW nut job.

 

[EMH]

Glacial cycles did happen and the Arctic did glaciate and deglaciate. And that did affect temperatures around the planet. There's tons of evidence for this. And it's not because land moved back and forth.

You have no evidence for your batshit crazy beliefs.

This from a taxpayer funded "climate scientist" who cannot answer basic climate questions...


1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?

 

[EMH]

That you argue against glacial cycles can only mean you are trying to muddy the waters because your are an AGW nut job.

10k years ago there were still glaciers in Indiana.

Greenland's ice sheet didn't push the Vikings off the southern tip until the 1400s.

During the past 10k years, GREENLAND ADDED ICE WHILE NORTH AMERICA LOST ICE, proving your "glacials" are COMPLETE BULLSHIT

 

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10k years ago there were still glaciers in Indiana.

Greenland's ice sheet didn't push the Vikings off the southern tip until the 1400s.

During the past 10k years, GREENLAND ADDED ICE WHILE NORTH AMERICA LOST ICE, proving your "glacials" are COMPLETE BULLSHIT

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More taxpayer funded fraud, and doesn't have Greenland growing, since 2 million years ago Greenland was completely green save mountains...

A 2-million-year-old ecosystem in Greenland uncovered by environmental DNA - Nature

Analysis of two-million-year-old ancient environmental DNA from the Kap København Formation in North Greenland shows there was an open boreal forest with diverse plant and animal species, of which several taxa have not previously been detected at the site, representing an ecosystem that has no...

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More taxpayer funded fraud, and doesn't have Greenland growing, since 2 million years ago Greenland was completely green save mountains...

A 2-million-year-old ecosystem in Greenland uncovered by environmental DNA - Nature

Analysis of two-million-year-old ancient environmental DNA from the Kap København Formation in North Greenland shows there was an open boreal forest with diverse plant and animal species, of which several taxa have not previously been detected at the site, representing an ecosystem that has no...

www.nature.com

The planet is warming today because the northern hemisphere is deglaciating because heat is being circulated from the Atlantic to the Arctic due to thermohaline circulation.

#winning

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Greenland freezing while North America was thawing

Still no dates for this event?

 

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#winning

 

[ReinyDays]

For the past 3 million years when the northern hemisphere deglaciates the planet warms and when the northern hemisphere glaciates the planet cools.

You have cause-and-effect backwards ... again ... you're saying the melting ice is causing global warming ... try this on your stove, put a block of ice in a pan and see if the burner lights ... you know ... before the ice completely melts ...

 

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You have cause-and-effect backwards ... again ... you're saying the melting ice is causing global warming ... try this on your stove, put a block of ice in a pan and see if the burner lights ... you know ... before the ice completely melts ...

No. That's not what I am saying. Thanks for asking. The evidence shows that when the northern hemisphere is glaciating that the ocean and atmosphere cool. And that when the northern hemisphere deglaciates the oceans and the atmosphere warm. So it's what happens in the northern hemisphere which determines planetary climate. The ice coverage doesn't change in the southern hemisphere during glacial periods. Just the northern hemisphere changes. Sure it gets colder in the southern hemisphere and the oceans get colder but it's being driven by northern hemisphere glaciation.

People are over thinking this. It's getting warmer because that's what happens in an interglacial period as the northern hemisphere continues to deglaciate. I'm sick and tired of idiots blaming a trace amount of a relatively weak GHG for the warming when this is what the planet does in every interglacial period.

 

[ReinyDays]

No. That's not what I am saying. Thanks for asking. The evidence shows that when the northern hemisphere is glaciating that the ocean and atmosphere cool. And that when the northern hemisphere deglaciates the oceans and the atmosphere warm. So it's what happens in the northern hemisphere which determines planetary climate. The ice coverage doesn't change in the southern hemisphere during glacial periods. Just the northern hemisphere changes. Sure it gets colder in the southern hemisphere and the oceans get colder but it's being driven by northern hemisphere glaciation.

People are over thinking this. It's getting warmer because that's what happens in an interglacial period as the northern hemisphere continues to deglaciate. I'm sick and tired of idiots blaming a trace amount of a relatively weak GHG for the warming when this is what the planet does in every interglacial period.

While I support your efforts to clear up all the misconception about GHGs ... I must insist we replace the nonsense with actual known science ... what you describe is equilibrium ... the Northern Hemisphere is in thermodynamic equilibrium with the Southern at all times, equal amounts of energy, on average ... there's no such thing as a "planetary climate" except perhaps Oceanic ... that is pretty much identical over 71% of the Earth's surface ...

You're underthinking this if you're not accounting for latent heat ... and how that energy is convected away from the oceans without changing temperature ... 334 J/g and 2265 J/g ... can you at least try to apply the Laws of Thermodynamics ...

ETA: The energy required to evaporate one gram of water would raise the temperature of a kilogram of air by 2.2ºC ...