How do we Know Human are Causing Climate Change?

[MarathonMike]

All of which still fails to contain:

• Predictability
• Quantifiability
• Fasifiablility
• A static control
• Any baseline proposal of what the "ideal" temperature should be

And the warmer Bozos still claim that they're proponents of science.

"This time it's different, cuz we can use scare tactics and fake data for money, power and control!" Who will be head of the Global Carbon Police Force?

 

[ding]

While I support your efforts to clear up all the misconception about GHGs ... I must insist we replace the nonsense with actual known science ... what you describe is equilibrium ... the Northern Hemisphere is in thermodynamic equilibrium with the Southern at all times, equal amounts of energy, on average ... there's no such thing as a "planetary climate" except perhaps Oceanic ... that is pretty much identical over 71% of the Earth's surface ...

You're underthinking this if you're not accounting for latent heat ... and how that energy is convected away from the oceans without changing temperature ... 334 J/g and 2265 J/g ... can you at least try to apply the Laws of Thermodynamics ...

ETA: The energy required to evaporate one gram of water would raise the temperature of a kilogram of air by 2.2ºC ...

None of which matters unless it is placed in the context of landmass configuration specifically the polar regions and the resulting climate at those critical locations. You aren't getting bipolar glaciation without the polar regions being thermally isolated from warm marine currents. The southern pole has had a polar ice cap for 30 million years. The northern pole has only had a polar ice cap - cyclically - for the last 3-5 million years. It's idiotic to have a climate discussion that doesn't start with the features which establish climate.

 

[ReinyDays]

None of which matters unless it is placed in the context of landmass configuration specifically the polar regions and the resulting climate at those critical locations. You aren't getting bipolar glaciation without the polar regions being thermally isolated from warm marine currents. The southern pole has had a polar ice cap for 30 million years. The northern pole has only had a polar ice cap - cyclically - for the last 3-5 million years. It's idiotic to have a climate discussion that doesn't start with the features which establish climate.

Polar climates? ... critical locations? ... thermal isolation? ...

An idealized blackbody radiator re-radiates all the energy it receives ... the Earth's surface is nearly so ... there's no critical locations or thermal isolation ... unless you can explain what you mean ... just remember it requires a force to perform work ...

It's idiotic to have a climate discussion that doesn't start with the six meteorological parameters ... and the multi-dimensional vector space this creates ... including convection and continentiality ... both of which you choose to ignore ...

 

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Polar climates? ... critical locations? ... thermal isolation? ...

An idealized blackbody radiator re-radiates all the energy it receives ... the Earth's surface is nearly so ... there's no critical locations or thermal isolation ... unless you can explain what you mean ... just remember it requires a force to perform work ...

It's idiotic to have a climate discussion that doesn't start with the six meteorological parameters ... and the multi-dimensional vector space this creates ... including convection and continentiality ... both of which you choose to ignore ...

It's idiotic to start any climate conversation without starting with what is happening in the polar regions. Look at the oxygen isotope curve and read the annotations. If you want to understand the climate record, you have to study the climate record and that starts with this curve. Are you really going to make me walk you through what this curve is telling you?

 

[ReinyDays]

It's idiotic to start any climate conversation without starting with what is happening in the polar regions. Look at the oxygen isotope curve and read the annotations. If you want to understand the climate record, you have to study the climate record and that starts with this curve. Are you really going to make me walk you through what this curve is telling you?

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Then go look in the polar regions ...

Tell me how the oxygen isotope ratio describes wind direction and velocity? ... that's a rhetorical question, you don't have to answer ...

Straight down, dry as any ... always has been always will be ... climate change at her finest ...

 

[ding]

Then go look in the polar regions ...

Tell me how the oxygen isotope ratio describes wind direction and velocity? ... that's a rhetorical question, you don't have to answer ...

Straight down, dry as any ... always has been always will be ... climate change at her finest ...

Tell me how wind direction, wind velocity, convection, idealized blackbody radiators and any other stupid red herring that you can think up affected the temperature record? ... that's a rhetorical question, you don't have to answer ...

If you can't see from the geologic record that the planet - oceans and atmosphere - cool when the northern hemisphere glaciates and that the planet - oceans and atmosphere - warm when the northern hemisphere deglaciates then you might be dumber than Apu and EMH.

 

[EMH]

All the above is taxpayer funded crap by a group of liars who cannot answer basic climate questions without exposing the truth that Co2 is the cause of precisely nothing regarding Earth climate change.

1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?

Because the Jews!!!

 

[EMH]

Because the Jews!!!

and this is where we are, people.

YOU PAY THIS GUY TO "PRACTICE CLIMATE SCIENCE" and he can't answer basic climate questions.... NONE of them can, without admitting Co2 is not the cause of Earth climate change.

All it takes is asking those questions, not that hard, but there is complete and total censorship of these questions... so far...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

and this is where we are, people.

YOU PAY THIS GUY TO "PRACTICE CLIMATE SCIENCE" and he can't answer basic climate questions.... NONE of them can, without admitting Co2 is not the cause of Earth climate change.

All it takes is asking those questions, not that hard, but there is complete and total censorship of these questions... so far...

Nobody pays me to show that you have no evidence for your claims.

 

[EMH]

Nobody pays me to show that you have no evidence for your claims.

Where is the "evidence" to refute the claims.

Are you denying that Earth ice is

90% on land mass Antarctica
7% on land mass Greenland
0.3% on Ellesmere Island (which is actually in "third place" for continuous ice)


Where are those? All within 600 miles of a pole. Can you refute that? NO, or you would.

Is there any land on Earth not inside 600 miles of a pole in ice age? NO

600 miles to the pole has all the EVIDENCE it needs, and YOU and the Co2 FRAUD cannot refute it...

so you avoid posting anything substantive...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Where is the "evidence" to refute the claims.

Are you denying that Earth ice is

90% on land mass Antarctica
7% on land mass Greenland
0.3% on Ellesmere Island (which is actually in "third place" for continuous ice)


Where are those? All within 600 miles of a pole. Can you refute that? NO, or you would.

Is there any land on Earth not inside 600 miles of a pole in ice age? NO

600 miles to the pole has all the EVIDENCE it needs, and YOU and the Co2 FRAUD cannot refute it...

so you avoid posting anything substantive...

Where is the "evidence" to refute the claims.

I don't need evidence to refute your silly claims.
You need evidence to prove your silly claims.

 

[EMH]

Where is the "evidence" to refute the claims.

I don't need evidence to refute your silly claims.
You need evidence to prove your silly claims.

LOL!!!

The claim is that all land within 600 miles of an Earth pole is in ice age, all land outside is not, and Earth ice is controlled by that issue regarding tectonic plate movement, as the issue of Greenland freezing while North America thawed is 100% about the fact that Greenland moved NW while NA moved SW, Greenland entered 600 miles to the pole while NA exited, and

YOUR LYING CHOSEN ASS CANNOT REFUTE ONE WORD OF THAT


Earth climate is about the amount of ice on Earth at any given time, which is all about WHERE LAND IS, and LAND MOVES...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

LOL!!!

The claim is that all land within 600 miles of an Earth pole is in ice age, all land outside is not, and Earth ice is controlled by that issue regarding tectonic plate movement, as the issue of Greenland freezing while North America thawed is 100% about the fact that Greenland moved NW while NA moved SW, Greenland entered 600 miles to the pole while NA exited, and

YOUR LYING CHOSEN ASS CANNOT REFUTE ONE WORD OF THAT


Earth climate is about the amount of ice on Earth at any given time, which is all about WHERE LAND IS, and LAND MOVES...

I don't need evidence to refute your silly claims.
You need evidence to prove your silly claims.

 

[EMH]

The Co2 FRAUD has zero ability to answer the given questions without admitting Co2 does nothing.

That is why they respond like SUBS do when the subject is W/Cheney endorsing Kamala...

 

[ding]

The Co2 FRAUD has zero ability to answer the given questions without admitting Co2 does nothing.

That is why they respond like SUBS do when the subject is W/Cheney endorsing Kamala...

Todd doesn't believe in AGW, you dumbass. Neither do I.

But I think you do, and that's why you make such silly arguments.

 

[EMH]

Todd doesn't believe in AGW, you dumbass. Neither do I.

But I think you do, and that's why you make such silly arguments.

You LIE. You are funded by the Co2 FRAUD as "faux skeptics" who KEEP ACCEPTING FUDGED DATA AS REAL....

Toddster is the worst Zionist Fascist fraud of a "Republican" on USMB

 

[ding]

You LIE. You are funded by the Co2 FRAUD as "faux skeptics" who KEEP ACCEPTING FUDGED DATA AS REAL....

Toddster is the worst Zionist Fascist fraud of a "Republican" on USMB

No, I'm not lying. Todd doesn't believe in AGW. I don't believe in AGW.

You arguing that glacial cycles haven't been occurring for the past 3 million years and that there's no warming is idiotic.

YOU ARE A SUBVERSIVE.

 

[EMH]

Todd doesn't believe in AGW

Toddster does not want AGW refuted and neither do you. That is why you keep pushing ocean currents and avoid answering the 5 questions.

glacial cycles

are 100% refuted by the indisputable truth that Greenland froze while North America thawed.


YOU AND TODDSTER ARE BOTH FUNDED BY THE CO2 FRAUD. You aren't even denying it.

 

[ding]

Toddster does not want AGW refuted and neither do you. That is why you keep pushing ocean currents and avoid answering the 5 questions.




are 100% refuted by the indisputable truth that Greenland froze while North America thawed.


YOU AND TODDSTER ARE BOTH FUNDED BY THE CO2 FRAUD. You aren't even denying it.

YOU ARE A SUNBVERSIVE