How do dems outnumber repubs 51-49

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This may sound silly, but how is it they get 51, when I thought that two states elected independents? I know 2 from each state, but when I was reading the news, lieberman won, and some other independent in VT I think. How are independents counted?

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I went to NPR and they list

49 rebubs
48 dems
2 independents

Or is the news assuming that the indep are always going to vote on the dems side? Lieb, prob on social,fiscal, but the other i don't know. If so, what is the point of being called an independent?
 

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I went to NPR and they list

49 rebubs
48 dems
2 independents

Or is the news assuming that the indep are always going to vote on the dems side? Lieb, prob on social,fiscal, but the other i don't know. If so, what is the point of being called an independent?
Modus Operandi for the Democrats. Skew all statistics to make it look like you won. To be fair, though, both independants are pretty liberal.
 

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Lieberman is NOT "pretty liberal" when it comes to Iraq.
Yeah, but that's just one issue. He's pretty liberal on most other things, though. Don't get me wrong. I'm glad he got elected, because he 'gets it' on the most vital issue of our generation. I disagree with him on a lot of other stuff, but I'm ok with that.
 
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Modus Operandi for the Democrats. Skew all statistics to make it look like you won. To be fair, though, both independants are pretty liberal.
I kinda suspected they were liberal. But still, the MSM is saying that took complete control of congress, as if they actually had 51 dems and not 48.

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I believe both candidates intend to caucus with the Democrats. That means that for all intents and purposes they are Democrats.
Then the independent parties should be disbanded. They are to be independent and not caucus virtually all the time with one party. IMHO
 

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Yea, I just checked Fox and even they have the the two indies with the Democrats.

There goes the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy Theory.

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Then the independent parties should be disbanded. They are to be independent and not caucus virtually all the time with one party. IMHO
Lieberman said from the beginning that he would caucus with the Democrats, and Sanders is to the left of all the Democrats and will effectively vote Democratic when it counts (although apparently he did some crazy socialist stuff back in Vermont when he had the time) so his caucusing with the Democrats is just a tip of the hat to pragmatism.
 

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Yeah, but that's just one issue. He's pretty liberal on most other things, though. Don't get me wrong. I'm glad he got elected, because he 'gets it' on the most vital issue of our generation. I disagree with him on a lot of other stuff, but I'm ok with that.
My primary concern at this point is that there enough Dems who are not of the cut-n-run mentality. I don't really know WHERE Lieberman stands on every issue.
 

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My primary concern at this point is that there enough Dems who are not of the cut-n-run mentality. I don't really know WHERE Lieberman stands on every issue.
Except for his stance on the war, he typically votes with Dingy Harry and Pelosi. If you took out the bolded portions, the Dems wouldn't have dumped him. He lost the nomination in the primary because he has his own brain.
 

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I went to NPR and they list

49 rebubs
48 dems
2 independents

Or is the news assuming that the indep are always going to vote on the dems side? Lieb, prob on social,fiscal, but the other i don't know. If so, what is the point of being called an independent?
Based on this stat the GOP still holds control. Unless both Independents turn coat and declare temselves Dems.:baby:
 

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His numbers are wrong. It looks like Virginia is going to the Dems. That means they have 49 "official" democrats, 1 "unofficial" democrat in the form of Senator Lieberman, who still considers himself a democrat, and 1 de facto democrat.
 

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His numbers are wrong. It looks like Virginia is going to the Dems. That means they have 49 "official" democrats, 1 "unofficial" democrat in the form of Senator Lieberman, who still considers himself a democrat, and 1 de facto democrat.
49 repubs
49 dems
2 inds

go check the npr website
 

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