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If Hunter Biden’s laptop and Joe’s video’s extortion of Ukraine is not sufficient for you, nothing will be.
Would anyone like to discuss this remnant of a falsehood?
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Lesh
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Yep…well money wired
BackAgain
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Tl;dr.Quid Pro Joe.
I still see it being used here by the usual culprits. Its reference is not unique in the sense that many lies fabricated by the enormously influential right wing sound machine live on after being thoroughly debunked. Far too many to recount. In this particular instance, aided greatly by The Crazy in the House. Gym Jordan and James Comer were is always in the thick of it.
To those of you who use QPJ due to manufactured fables involving the "Big Guy" or other such nonsense.............
Dissecting GOP claims about Hunter Biden deals allegedly involving his father
— Comer, at the news conference
The phrase “evidence suggests” is doing a lot of work here. Comer is referring to a single email — dated May 13, 2017 — whose meaning has been under dispute. In the hard-drive copy of the laptop obtained by The Washington Post, the email lacked digital information that allowed it to be verified.
The Washington Post, in its reporting, cites only materials from the laptop that the security experts were able to verify or can be confirmed elsewhere. Politico reporter Ben Schreckinger, in his 2021 book “The Bidens,” said the email had been verified as authentic by “a person with independent access to Hunter’s emails.”
The 2017 email described possible ownership stakes for five partners, including Hunter Biden and his uncle Jim Biden, in a planned venture with CEFC, the Chinese company. The entity was to be called Oneida Holdings LLC.
James Gilliar, a business associate summarizing the allocation of the equity in Oneida Holdings LLC., in the email, wrote how four partners would get 20 percent each, except for Jim Biden, who would get 10 percent. He added a question: “10 held by H for the big guy?” One of the recipients of the mail, Anthony Bobulinski, has said that the “big guy” referred to Joe Biden and that “H” referred to Hunter. Bobulinski was a guest of Trump at one of the 2020 presidential debates.
But Gilliar told the Wall Street Journal in 2020: “I would like to clear up any speculation that former Vice President Biden was involved with the 2017 discussions about our potential business structure. I am unaware of any involvement at anytime of the former vice president. The activity in question never delivered any project revenue.”
Three days after the email was sent, a draft agreement setting up Oneida was circulated. It shows each partner would receive 20 percent, including Jim Biden. No mention is made of Joe Biden. The company agreement signed on May 22, 2017, had the same allocation. Oneida was to hold 50 percent of another corporate entity called SinoHawk. Neither Gilliar nor James Biden responded to requests for comment.
The Wall Street Journal said that it had reviewed corporate records and found no role for Joe Biden. The Washington Post, in an extensive report on the CEFC dealings, also did not find evidence that Joe Biden personally benefited from or knew details about the transactions with CEFC. The Biden campaign at the time denied he had any role.
Comer says that this deal involved natural gas, but he appears to be referring to a different transaction, described below. There is no evidence this particular deal concerned natural gas.
Collins said Comer had not made a mistake. “Committee Republicans have evidence the Bidens’ deal with CEFC — a company closely affiliated with the Chinese Communist Party — was changed when the Bidens cut out their Western partners of SinoHawk to keep the business in the family,” she said. Asked to provide the evidence, she would only say it was “based on whistleblower information provided to Committee Republicans.”
In an Oct. 13 letter to FBI Director Christopher A. Wray, Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) said that an FBI summary of an interview with Bobulinski revealed that the deal was intended to pay the partners for deals that had “remained intentionally uncompensated while Joe Biden was Vice President.” The venture failed but, in a separate arrangement, Hunter and Jim Biden received nearly $5 million from CEFC, Grassley noted.
.........I ask you this. Has it occurred to you yet that the entire made up "Joe was on the take" story was created as a counter narrative to things like this?
Trump Businesses Received $7.8 Million From Foreign Countries During Presidency, House Reports
Trump Businesses Received $7.8 Million From Foreign Countries During Presidency, House Reports
China, Saudia Arabia, and the U.A.E. all paid former President Trump’s businesses millions for hotel stays and rent while he was in office.www.forbes.com
Trump poised to run out political clock on emoluments suits
Karl Rove, the mastermind behind Shrub's campaigns, was known for taking a weakness his candidate had and making it a weakness for his opponent. Hence the Swift Boat liars for Bush was invented.
For trump backers, it was intolerable to have a candidate who stole money from a charity, defrauded students who paid to attend his joke of a real estate school, ripped off small contractors working on his properties, and declared multiple bankruptcies while leaving investors in his casinos holding the bag.
Just as it was intolerable for trump's record of serial sexual abuse to be out there without a distraction. Hence, Pedo Joe.
And finally, the big daddy of all the counter narratives. The entire nation's system of justice, even citizens called to sit on grand juries, were part of an orchestrated, all encompassing, pervasive conspiracy to get poor Don. In reality, the whole enterprise being designed to keep trumples from closely examining the publicly available, overwhelming evidence of his guilt. Or getting them to dismiss the evidence for being motivated, as the fatuous claim goes, by bias.
And in any event, we’ve all seen too much about this Biden family criminality to buy whatever bug is now hoping to peddle.
Lesh
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It’s rather amazing how uninformed you are
Lesh
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Link or it’s bullshit
No it’s obvious you are uninformed
This thread is proof of my allegation that dembots ignore reality
berg80
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Mind explaining what 7 Repub senators based their guilty vote on if not evidence?
7 GOP Senators Voted To Convict Trump. Only 1 Faces Voters Next Year
7 GOP Senators Voted To Convict Trump. Only 1 Faces Voters Next Year
Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski will face voters in 2022, but her state's new primary and voting system likely means she'll be in less danger of losing her primary.
www.npr.org
It's not coincidental most of them were not coming up for re-election. Meaning they felt free to vote their conscience and on the evidence. The others, as we found out from Romney, were too afraid for their political careers and their family's safety to vote to convict.
Emotion not evidenceMind explaining what 7 Repub senators based their guilty vote on if not evidence?
7 GOP Senators Voted To Convict Trump. Only 1 Faces Voters Next Year
7 GOP Senators Voted To Convict Trump. Only 1 Faces Voters Next Year
Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski will face voters in 2022, but her state's new primary and voting system likely means she'll be in less danger of losing her primary.
It's not coincidental most of them were not coming up for re-election. Meaning they felt free to vote their conscience and on the evidence. The others, as we found out from Romney, were too afraid for their political careers and their family's safety to vote to convict.
I’ve told you were to read the evidence, you just ignore it
It was pure emotion
With that said, the evidence didnt support a conviction, hence why he was exonerated and is now the 47th president
Meanwhile xiden and harris were fired
berg80
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As you know, there was no evidence implicating Joe on Hunter's laptop. As you know, Joe's videoed comments regarding Shokin were purposely taken way out of context by trump and RWM.
Trump ad misleads about Biden, Ukraine and the prosecutor
A campaign ad from President Donald Trump claims it has "facts" about the Bidens and Ukraine, but instead mashes ideas t
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berg80
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So........you didn't read the senator's explanations. Why do you run from these kinds of things? Is it because they destroy your fallacious beliefs?
Richard Burr, who is not running for reelection next year, said, in part, in a statement: “The President promoted unfounded conspiracy theories to cast doubt on the integrity of a free and fair election because he did not like the results. As Congress met to certify the election results, the President directed his supporters to go to the Capitol to disrupt the lawful proceedings required by the Constitution. When the crowd became violent, the President used his office to first inflame the situation instead of immediately calling for an end to the assault.”
He went on to say, “As I said on January 6th, the President bears responsibility for these tragic events. The evidence is compelling that President Trump is guilty of inciting an insurrection against a coequal branch of government and that the charge rises to the level of high Crimes and Misdemeanors. Therefore, I have voted to convict.”
Haha the laptop literally had emails where hunter said he need to give 10 percent to the big guy Joey XidenAs you know, there was no evidence implicating Joe on Hunter's laptop. As you know, Joe's videoed comments regarding Shokin were purposely taken way out of context by trump and RWM.
Trump ad misleads about Biden, Ukraine and the prosecutor
A campaign ad from President Donald Trump claims it has "facts" about the Bidens and Ukraine, but instead mashes ideas t
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