How Bernie is wrong about economics and "social issues"

So I was watching a Bernie interview and the subject of women's rights came up from Donald's position that women having an abortion should be punished and Bernie made a comment about it being, and I'm paraphrasing, distracting. So I go to look up his position on women's rights and I find this Rolling Stone interview:

Weekend With Bernie

Sanders believes that by keeping his focus on economic populism, he has a shot — a long one, he admits — at beating the historical odds. "Once you get off of the social issues — abortion, gay rights, guns — and into the economic issues," he says, "there is a lot more agreement than the pundits understand."

His legislative history is actually far to the right of Hillary Clinton's when it comes to guns.

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Bernie Sanders As Democratic Capitalist

Creating Jobs Rebuilding America - Bernie Sanders

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For one thing, gay rights are very important if you are a gay or a right winger. Gays want protection and civil liberties. Right wingers want gays dead.
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Women's rights are very important. To think that a woman's choice could, under the Republicans, be forced to be between having an unwanted child or a 1st degree murder charge is just awful.
And don't get me started on guns. Of course I believe people have the right to own a gun, but not crazies and not felons and not a 4 year old.

And look at his economic policies. The link from his site is above. Sure, we want new bridges. We want modern rails and airports. We want good roads. But where are the jobs that will pay for all that stuff. You can't build a railway unless there are people who ride it or goods that are carried on it. What are the goods and where are they coming from. Find that info on Bernie's site -- if you can.

Bernie is so much like a Republican. Or like an empty pinata. There is no candy inside. Just a vague word salad like "do good" and "make better". That's all Republicans have run on for years. We don't need Democrats to do the same exact thing.


You can talk about Bernie all you want--but it is mathematically impossible for him to win the Nomination at this point in time. Right now, even after winning Wisconsin, he would have to win 3 out of 4 delegates in all the remaining states. That means he would have to win them BIG, not just by a few points here and there.

Again, he was hanging out at a college campus in Wyoming tonight to give his victory speech on Wisconsin, and again it's another caucus state that typically produces less than 1% participation of voters that will put up with the pain of a 3 hour meeting to cast a vote. He'll probably win Wyoming giving him another handful of delegates, but not enough to put a dent into her lead. Typically the underdogs win these. Had all of the caucus states he has won, been primary states, Hillary Clinton would have wiped them clean, and Sanders would be a distant memory right now.

We're headed into large CLOSED primaries where he has been getting clobbered. New York, Pennsylvania, Connecticut--where Hillary Clinton is leading by 30+ points. In June another BIG Presidential closed primary in California. Hillary Clinton to date has a 2+ million popular vote lead. Meaning that the Democrat Super Delegates, all 580 are not going to move over for Bernie Sanders. They are going to continue to support the Democrat in this race, & not someone who just changed his party status to run on the Democrat ticket.

So that's the Bernie Sander's challenge, and it's definitely NOT something that Las Vegas would give odds on.
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It just a coincidence that so many northern and western states have caucuses. Her problems in these areas are on the issues.
 
Bernie has told Hillary Clinton to apologize for her vote on the Iraq war.

Bernie votes for the 1994 crime bill and then rakes former President Clinton for signing the bill into law. But BERNIE VOTED FOR THE BILL. So how come he isn't apologizing the way he wants her to.

Hypocrite much?
 
Bernie has told Hillary Clinton to apologize for her vote on the Iraq war.

Bernie votes for the 1994 crime bill and then rakes former President Clinton for signing the bill into law. But BERNIE VOTED FOR THE BILL. So how come he isn't apologizing the way he wants her to.

Hypocrite much?

The Clintons racially demagogued for the sake of passing the bill. It isn't just a matter of ancient history either. She doubled down on it during the 2008 primaries:

' Aiming at Obama's signature rhetoric, Clinton said what America needs is someone who can "actually deliver change" not "false hopes."
While the senator was vague, her campaign pointed out to ABC News examples of Obama's liberal positions. In 2004, Obama said he would vote to abolish mandatory minimum sentences for federal crimes. '

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On the other hand, even though Sanders ended up voting for the 1994 VCCLEA, he DID voice opposition to its more punitive measures even at that time.

"Mr. Speaker, all the jails in the world, and we already imprison more people per capita than any other country, and all of the executions in the world, will not make that situation right. We can either educate or electrocute. We can create meaningful jobs, rebuilding our society, or we can build more jails. Mr. Speaker, let us create a society of hope and compassion, not one of hate and vengeance."

-- Bernie Sanders; from House debate on VCCLEA (Apr. 13, 1994)

 

Some callers on a radio show? That's about as relevant to the national debate as Odium's posts on here.
 

Don't tear an ACL dodging the proof...lol

Farrakhan is the lunatic fringe. That's well known. Feel free to start your own discussion about it.
 
Bernie has told Hillary Clinton to apologize for her vote on the Iraq war.

Bernie votes for the 1994 crime bill and then rakes former President Clinton for signing the bill into law. But BERNIE VOTED FOR THE BILL. So how come he isn't apologizing the way he wants her to.

Hypocrite much?

The Clintons racially demagogued for the sake of passing the bill. It isn't just a matter of ancient history either. She doubled down on it during the 2008 primaries:

' Aiming at Obama's signature rhetoric, Clinton said what America needs is someone who can "actually deliver change" not "false hopes."
While the senator was vague, her campaign pointed out to ABC News examples of Obama's liberal positions. In 2004, Obama said he would vote to abolish mandatory minimum sentences for federal crimes. '

Clinton Campaign in Crisis?

On the other hand, even though Sanders ended up voting for the 1994 VCCLEA, he DID voice opposition to its more punitive measures even at that time.

"Mr. Speaker, all the jails in the world, and we already imprison more people per capita than any other country, and all of the executions in the world, will not make that situation right. We can either educate or electrocute. We can create meaningful jobs, rebuilding our society, or we can build more jails. Mr. Speaker, let us create a society of hope and compassion, not one of hate and vengeance."

-- Bernie Sanders; from House debate on VCCLEA (Apr. 13, 1994)


Children’s Defense Fund Honors Hillary Rodham Clinton at 40th Anniversary Celebration

“CDF is pleased to recognize Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has been a tireless voice for children. She’s brilliant. She cares deeply about children. She perseveres. She’s an incredibly hard worker, and she stays with it. She’s done extraordinarily well in everything she’s ever done. and I’m just so proud of her,” said Marian Wright Edelman, President of the Children’s Defense Fund.

In a video tribute Clinton, said “It’s the mission that CDF has stood for that I’m proud that I was a small part of promoting…We worked hard in the White House. We certainly appreciated the efforts of organizations like CDF kind of, you know, charging ahead.”

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Hillary has walked the walk. I just can't find the same kinds of success from Bernie after 25 years in congress. It's one thing to rant and rail, and another to actually get something done.
 

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