Horowitz Testified: Comey NOT 'Vindicated' - DON'T KNOW If There Was Political Bias'

[kyzr]

None of the senat6ors went to bat for General Flynn.
Flynn was setup and then his family was squeezed to lie about Trump.
There are so many FBI crimes to prosecute that if Horowitz missed them I hope Durham fixes them.

No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

That’s not what a perjury trap is. Sometimes the FBI will ask questions to people that they already know the answer to. If there’s a lie, it provides them more information than if they reveal that they know the information to begin with. A perjury trap is different. That’s where an individual is testifying on one matter but asked questions about an unrelated matter to incriminate themselves.

No argument from me about Carter Page’s warrant being fraudulent. That’s clear as day to me.

Papadopolous, Flynn and Manafort never had FISA warrants established on them.

Without FISA warrants how was it that the FBI could spy on all four, Carter Page, Flynn, Popadopulous, and Manafort?

 

[kyzr]

Nope.
It just means he didn't recognize a setup.
Moral to this story: DO NOT TRUST THE FBI.

What setup?

Read up on it muppet.
I'm not your personal researcher. (Even tho' I suspect you already know and are playing dumb like a typical ).

It wasn’t a setup. We both know it. He lied. He lied on his own volition. He knew he shouldn’t do it but he did it anyway because that’s what Trump would have wanted.

When are y’all going to realize that Trump eats peoples souls.

Worse yet, you eat a bag O' anti-American Democrat dicks!

No one made a Flynn lie. Why did he do it?

My understanding was that Flynn said he didn't recall to the question "did you discuss sanctions with Kisliak?", and that's what the nailed him on.
Why did the FBI ask questions of Flynn if they had him under surveillance? A trap.

 

[B. Kidd]

Nope.
It just means he didn't recognize a setup.
Moral to this story: DO NOT TRUST THE FBI.

What setup?

Read up on it muppet.
I'm not your personal researcher. (Even tho' I suspect you already know and are playing dumb like a typical ).

It wasn’t a setup. We both know it. He lied. He lied on his own volition. He knew he shouldn’t do it but he did it anyway because that’s what Trump would have wanted.

When are y’all going to realize that Trump eats peoples souls.

Worse yet, you eat a bag O' anti-American Democrat dicks!

No one made a Flynn lie. Why did he do it?

We only have the testimony of the 2 FBI agents that set him up. That's why they sent 2 agents. Maybe he didn't lie. Maybe they lied just like they did to the FISA Court numerous times.
And this is the crux of the problem with a FBI that is part and parcel to a Democrat Party criminal conspiracy that they executed!

 

[kyzr]

None of the senat6ors went to bat for General Flynn.
Flynn was setup and then his family was squeezed to lie about Trump.
There are so many FBI crimes to prosecute that if Horowitz missed them I hope Durham fixes them.

No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

James Comey

✔@Comey
Crooked Comey:

"So it was all lies. No treason. No spying on the campaign. No tapping Trumps wires. It was just good people trying to protect America."https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/james-comey-the-truth-is-finally-out-the-fbi-fulfilled-its-mission/2019/12/09/614df00c-1aad-11ea-8d58-5ac3600967a1_story.html …


Opinion | James Comey: The truth is finally out. The FBI fulfilled its mission.
Now those who attacked the FBI for two years should admit they were wrong.

washingtonpost.com

In fact, the IG report did not find there was “no spying.”




HOROWITZ ADMITS FBI ENGAGED IN “ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE” OF TRUMP CAMPAIGN

‘It’s illegal surveillance. It’s not court-authorized surveillance’

IG Horowitz: FISA Surveillance W/o Legal Foundation Is “Illegal Surveillance”


IG Horowitz: FISA Surveillance W/o Legal Foundation Is “Illegal Surveillance”

The FBI's "break in" of the Trump campaign was 1000x worse than the Nixon "plumbers" breaking into the DNC headquarters.
The FBI's illegal surveillance and coup plots of Trump are now the biggest scandal in US history.

 

[kyzr]

None of the senat6ors went to bat for General Flynn.
Flynn was setup and then his family was squeezed to lie about Trump.
There are so many FBI crimes to prosecute that if Horowitz missed them I hope Durham fixes them.

No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

The Deep State HAD to take out Flynn:

The first thing to understand about American Foreign Policy Establishment is that they are ALL interventionist Utopians who believe that by our interfering with the internal affairs of other nations that we can bring about an end of history utopia. Whether it's Clinton, Bush, Obama, McCain or Romney, you get the same meddling Utopians and they are a serious threat to the world.

This is hard to explain to people who don’t understand the depth of American narcissism.

Consider this conversation that Andrew McCarthy relayed:

“General Petraeus created ISIS in order to destabilize China,” a senior Chinese military official informed me over dinner in 2015. The individual in question appears, incidentally, as one of China’s masterminds of so-called unrestricted warfare in Michael Pillsbury’s now-celebrated book The Hundred Year Marathon.​

“That’s ridiculous,” I replied.​

“It is not ridiculous in the least,” the Chinese soldier continued in the benevolent tone in which one instructs low-aptitude recruits. “There are ISIS leaders whom we have identified and tracked who were trained by Petraeus during the ‘Surge,’” the counter-insurgency campaign that David Petraeus conducted in 2008-2009 to contain a Sunni rebellion against the majority Shiite government that the United States had helped bring to power in 2007.​

I tried to explain: “This was a comedy of errors. The neoconservatives in the Bush administration believed in majority rule as a matter of dogma, so the US held elections in 2007 and the Shiite minority won. Then the Sunnis who used to run Iraq under Saddam Hussein resisted with guerrilla war and terrorist attacks. Petraeus was just a careerist looking for another star, and he told the Bush administration that he could fix the Sunni problem by paying off the Sunni tribal leaders. He handed out hundreds of millions of dollars to the Sunnis and gave them weapons and training through the ‘Sons of Iraq’ and the ‘Sunni Awakening.’ When Obama took US forces out of Iraq, a lot of the same Sunnis who took money from Petraeus faced the same Shiite state, and became non-state actors, that is ISIS. And the CIA’s support for Sunni jihadist opponents of the Assad government in Syria made matters worse, as the Defense Intelligence Agency warned in a notorious 2012 report.”​

My Chinese interlocutor was not impressed. “You’re trying to tell me that the people who run the world’s great superpower are complete idiots who don’t think about the consequences of their actions? I don’t believe you.”​

Majority rule in Iraq meant permanent war:

“The stark facts on the ground still sat there, oozing pus and bile. With Saddam gone, any voting would install a Shiite majority. The Sunni wouldn’t run Iraq again. That, at the bottom, caused the insurgency. Absent the genocide of Sunni Arabs, it would keep it going.”​

The Petraeus surge was one of the most destructive things any military leader ever undertook, but it stands as a symbol of the Establishment’s collective reputation. The Republican Establishment had hailed Petraeus as the savior of George W Bush’s failed Iraq policy, and they are sticking to their story. When Bush took office in January 2001, the United States was the world’s sole hyperpower. Russia had defaulted on its foreign debt in July 1998, and China was a small dark cloud in the geopolitical sky. US government debt was a manageable 55% of GDP, compared with more than 100% of GDP today. America had more than 17 million manufacturing workers, vs only 12 million today. It still dominated high-tech manufacturing, including computer chips and telecommunications equipment. Fast-forward to 2019: China is challenging American pre-eminence in a range of civilian and military technologies, while Russia has returned to the world stage as a major power, notably in the Middle East.

Donald Trump was obnoxious enough to declare that the emperor had no clothes. Breaking with the iron discipline of the Republican Establishment, he told voters that the United States had wasted $7 trillion, thousands of dead, and millions of lives disrupted in the disastrous nation-building campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The only other Republican candidate to repudiate the “Bush Freedom Agenda” was Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. That is why the 2016 Republican primary became a two-man race between Trump and Cruz. The whole of the American Establishment had signed on to a utopian crusade to impose the liberal world order on the Muslim world. After nine years of frustration in Iraq, it saw in the so-called “Arab Spring” demonstrations of 2011 a second chance to bring its agenda to fruition. The result of this was the near-collapse of Egypt and an eight-year civil war in Syria that killed half a million people and displaced 10 million refugees.

BACK TO MICHAEL FLYNN:

That is what makes the case of Lieutenant-General Michael Flynn so central to the mutiny against Trump. As chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2012, Flynn had warned that American support for Sunni jihadists in Syria had the unintended effect of supporting the new caliphate movement, that is, ISIS. Among all the heads and former heads of the 17 agencies that make up the US intelligence community, Flynn was the only one who had objected to the disastrous covert intervention in Syria and foreseen its baleful consequences. Obama fired him, but Donald Trump hired him as a top campaign aide and then appointed him national security adviser.

Evidence is before the courts showing that the FBI set Flynn up in a White House interview, in order to claim that the distinguished general had lied to federal investigators about his contacts with Russians. Flynn’s lawyers have now produced evidence that the charges against him stemmed from an FBI forgery – FBI officials altered the interview report to put his remarks in an incriminating light. Flynn’s lawyer Sidney Powell claims that the CIA sandbagged him to stop an audit of its operations – the first audit since its founding.

Whatever one thinks of Donald Trump, the possibility should be horrifying that the world’s oldest continuous democratic constitution might be subverted by a cabal of spies with the support of the Fake News media.

You make not like Trump's style or methods, but this is what Fighting Back Against The Swamp looks like.

https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/11/article/not-a-bad-spy-novel-but-a-national-nightmare/

If your description of what happened to Flynn is true, then why won't Trump pardon him? I'm not seeing any major crime Flynn is guilty of.
It would be the ultimate FU, especially if he puts Flynn back in as DNI now that Bolton left. Then Flynn could get back to auditing the CIA.

I have a hard time swallowing the stuff about General Petraeus. Sounds like Chinese disinformation to me.
I also like Generals McRaven, and McChrystal, hope Trump puts them on somewhere.

 

[Zorro!]

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

Don't worry about Flynn. Trump will justly pardon him. (Even tho' the damage has already been done, to him too. Poor guy had to re-mortgage his house just to pay for his initial legal defense.)

Yeah, to top it all off in the midst of his legal troubles his jerk of a boss laid him off for no reason.

He trusted the FBI was his only fault.

Something to be learned here folks. If the FBI tells you that they just want to come over and talk with you, MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE AN ATTORNEY PRESENT!!!

What do you mean he trusted the FBI? Trusted them to do what?

FBI made it sound like it was on the fly and informal.
He should've known better and cancelled when 2 agents appeared.

Strzok was a very major player, Flynn was the former head of the DIA (one of our 17 Intelligence Agencies) and had been mislead into thinking this was merely a meet and greet, part of the transition, as Flynn was the Secretary of Defense.

It wasn't until well into the interview that Flynn realized that it was a criminal investigation. Clearly he trusted them and trust can be very blinding. We have a completely different view of all of these guys, now, because of 3 years of disclosure. No one had that view then. All these folks truly believed that all of these guys were above reproach.

But Flynn has learned a very painful lesson, naivety can put a person and their family in great danger when you trust evil people.

 

[colfax_m]

None of the senat6ors went to bat for General Flynn.
Flynn was setup and then his family was squeezed to lie about Trump.
There are so many FBI crimes to prosecute that if Horowitz missed them I hope Durham fixes them.

No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

That’s not what a perjury trap is. Sometimes the FBI will ask questions to people that they already know the answer to. If there’s a lie, it provides them more information than if they reveal that they know the information to begin with. A perjury trap is different. That’s where an individual is testifying on one matter but asked questions about an unrelated matter to incriminate themselves.

No argument from me about Carter Page’s warrant being fraudulent. That’s clear as day to me.

Papadopolous, Flynn and Manafort never had FISA warrants established on them.

Without FISA warrants how was it that the FBI could spy on all four, Carter Page, Flynn, Popadopulous, and Manafort?

Flynn was talking to someone with a legit FISA warrant so we caught his conversation There never was any surveillance on him specifically. I don’t think anyone spied on Papadopolous. Manafort could have been subject to a regular warrant because he had a pre-existing FBI investigation due to his many, many financial crimes.

 

[B. Kidd]

None of the senat6ors went to bat for General Flynn.
Flynn was setup and then his family was squeezed to lie about Trump.
There are so many FBI crimes to prosecute that if Horowitz missed them I hope Durham fixes them.

No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

James Comey

✔@Comey
Crooked Comey:

"So it was all lies. No treason. No spying on the campaign. No tapping Trumps wires. It was just good people trying to protect America."https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/james-comey-the-truth-is-finally-out-the-fbi-fulfilled-its-mission/2019/12/09/614df00c-1aad-11ea-8d58-5ac3600967a1_story.html …


Opinion | James Comey: The truth is finally out. The FBI fulfilled its mission.
Now those who attacked the FBI for two years should admit they were wrong.

washingtonpost.com

In fact, the IG report did not find there was “no spying.”




HOROWITZ ADMITS FBI ENGAGED IN “ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE” OF TRUMP CAMPAIGN

‘It’s illegal surveillance. It’s not court-authorized surveillance’

IG Horowitz: FISA Surveillance W/o Legal Foundation Is “Illegal Surveillance”


IG Horowitz: FISA Surveillance W/o Legal Foundation Is “Illegal Surveillance”

The FBI's "break in" of the Trump campaign was 1000x worse than the Nixon "plumbers" breaking into the DNC headquarters.
The FBI's illegal surveillance and coup plots of Trump are now the biggest scandal in US history.

This is what happens when the world's most trusted investigative organization loses credibilility!
Not one, not two, but three handpicked teams of FBI agents by McCabe violated the 4th amendment and joined the ranks of a lowly lying street criminal by being party to lying and hoodwinking the FISA Court.
It's a Republic, if we can keep it!
The FBI is doing their part in order to lose it.

 

[bripat9643]

None of the senat6ors went to bat for General Flynn.
Flynn was setup and then his family was squeezed to lie about Trump.
There are so many FBI crimes to prosecute that if Horowitz missed them I hope Durham fixes them.

No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

That’s not what a perjury trap is. Sometimes the FBI will ask questions to people that they already know the answer to. If there’s a lie, it provides them more information than if they reveal that they know the information to begin with. A perjury trap is different. That’s where an individual is testifying on one matter but asked questions about an unrelated matter to incriminate themselves.

No argument from me about Carter Page’s warrant being fraudulent. That’s clear as day to me.

Papadopolous, Flynn and Manafort never had FISA warrants established on them.

Without FISA warrants how was it that the FBI could spy on all four, Carter Page, Flynn, Popadopulous, and Manafort?

Flynn was talking to someone with a legit FISA warrant so we caught his conversation There never was any surveillance on him specifically. I don’t think anyone spied on Papadopolous. Manafort could have been subject to a regular warrant because he had a pre-existing FBI investigation due to his many, many financial crimes.

The FISA warrant was illegal, douchebag. Before the meeting, these 2 douchebags had listened to recordings of his phone call with the Russian ambassador.

 

[B. Kidd]

None of the senat6ors went to bat for General Flynn.
Flynn was setup and then his family was squeezed to lie about Trump.
There are so many FBI crimes to prosecute that if Horowitz missed them I hope Durham fixes them.

No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

That’s not what a perjury trap is. Sometimes the FBI will ask questions to people that they already know the answer to. If there’s a lie, it provides them more information than if they reveal that they know the information to begin with. A perjury trap is different. That’s where an individual is testifying on one matter but asked questions about an unrelated matter to incriminate themselves.

No argument from me about Carter Page’s warrant being fraudulent. That’s clear as day to me.

Papadopolous, Flynn and Manafort never had FISA warrants established on them.

Without FISA warrants how was it that the FBI could spy on all four, Carter Page, Flynn, Popadopulous, and Manafort?

Flynn was talking to someone with a legit FISA warrant so we caught his conversation There never was any surveillance on him specifically. I don’t think anyone spied on Papadopolous. Manafort could have been subject to a regular warrant because he had a pre-existing FBI investigation due to his many, many financial crimes.

You think no one spied on Papadopolous?
Really?
You didn't watch the IG testimony today. Did you?
So STFU!

 

[Nostra]

None of the senat6ors went to bat for General Flynn.
Flynn was setup and then his family was squeezed to lie about Trump.
There are so many FBI crimes to prosecute that if Horowitz missed them I hope Durham fixes them.

No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

That’s not what a perjury trap is. Sometimes the FBI will ask questions to people that they already know the answer to. If there’s a lie, it provides them more information than if they reveal that they know the information to begin with. A perjury trap is different. That’s where an individual is testifying on one matter but asked questions about an unrelated matter to incriminate themselves.

No argument from me about Carter Page’s warrant being fraudulent. That’s clear as day to me.

Papadopolous, Flynn and Manafort never had FISA warrants established on them.

Without FISA warrants how was it that the FBI could spy on all four, Carter Page, Flynn, Popadopulous, and Manafort?

Flynn was talking to someone with a legit FISA warrant so we caught his conversation There never was any surveillance on him specifically. I don’t think anyone spied on Papadopolous. Manafort could have been subject to a regular warrant because he had a pre-existing FBI investigation due to his many, many financial crimes.

You really are dumb.

 

[MarathonMike]

None of the senat6ors went to bat for General Flynn.
Flynn was setup and then his family was squeezed to lie about Trump.
There are so many FBI crimes to prosecute that if Horowitz missed them I hope Durham fixes them.

No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

James Comey

✔@Comey
Crooked Comey:

"So it was all lies. No treason. No spying on the campaign. No tapping Trumps wires. It was just good people trying to protect America."https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/james-comey-the-truth-is-finally-out-the-fbi-fulfilled-its-mission/2019/12/09/614df00c-1aad-11ea-8d58-5ac3600967a1_story.html …


Opinion | James Comey: The truth is finally out. The FBI fulfilled its mission.
Now those who attacked the FBI for two years should admit they were wrong.

washingtonpost.com

In fact, the IG report did not find there was “no spying.”




HOROWITZ ADMITS FBI ENGAGED IN “ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE” OF TRUMP CAMPAIGN

‘It’s illegal surveillance. It’s not court-authorized surveillance’

IG Horowitz: FISA Surveillance W/o Legal Foundation Is “Illegal Surveillance”


IG Horowitz: FISA Surveillance W/o Legal Foundation Is “Illegal Surveillance”

The FBI's "break in" of the Trump campaign was 1000x worse than the Nixon "plumbers" breaking into the DNC headquarters.
The FBI's illegal surveillance and coup plots of Trump are now the biggest scandal in US history.

Oh absolutely! Intelligence Agencies have tremendous power and must be totally trustworthy. The FBI has completely violated that trust by becoming an attack wing of the Democratic Party.

 

[colfax_m]

What setup?

Read up on it muppet.
I'm not your personal researcher. (Even tho' I suspect you already know and are playing dumb like a typical ).

It wasn’t a setup. We both know it. He lied. He lied on his own volition. He knew he shouldn’t do it but he did it anyway because that’s what Trump would have wanted.

When are y’all going to realize that Trump eats peoples souls.

Worse yet, you eat a bag O' anti-American Democrat dicks!

No one made a Flynn lie. Why did he do it?

My understanding was that Flynn said he didn't recall to the question "did you discuss sanctions with Kisliak?", and that's what the nailed him on.
Why did the FBI ask questions of Flynn if they had him under surveillance? A trap.

It’s my understanding Flynn said he didn’t talk about sanctions, which incidentally if we are to believe anyone in the Trump administration is what he was telling everyone else.

It’s really hard to believe he just forgot they talked about sanctions. When you read the indictment, Flynn sought guidance from someone in the Trump admin leadership about what to say about sanctions, he had the call where he discussed sanctions, and then after hanging up, reported directly back to the Trump admin leadership about the call. This all happened like 6 weeks before his sit down with the FBI which isn’t that long of a time.

The FBI asks questions they know the answer to all the time. If the person starts lying about it, then it’s evidence that they are trying to hide something. It’s a bad sign if you’re in law enforcement. They do it all the time for all kinds of cases. Big and small. I don’t like the idea that anyone gets special treatment and I don’t think Flynn should either.

 

[colfax_m]

No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

That’s not what a perjury trap is. Sometimes the FBI will ask questions to people that they already know the answer to. If there’s a lie, it provides them more information than if they reveal that they know the information to begin with. A perjury trap is different. That’s where an individual is testifying on one matter but asked questions about an unrelated matter to incriminate themselves.

No argument from me about Carter Page’s warrant being fraudulent. That’s clear as day to me.

Papadopolous, Flynn and Manafort never had FISA warrants established on them.

Without FISA warrants how was it that the FBI could spy on all four, Carter Page, Flynn, Popadopulous, and Manafort?

Flynn was talking to someone with a legit FISA warrant so we caught his conversation There never was any surveillance on him specifically. I don’t think anyone spied on Papadopolous. Manafort could have been subject to a regular warrant because he had a pre-existing FBI investigation due to his many, many financial crimes.

You think no one spied on Papadopolous?
Really?
You didn't watch the IG testimony today. Did you?
So STFU!

I have a job so I didn’t have time to sit for 8 hours of testimony. Did Horowitz say Papadopolous was spied on? If so how?

 

[colfax_m]

No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

That’s not what a perjury trap is. Sometimes the FBI will ask questions to people that they already know the answer to. If there’s a lie, it provides them more information than if they reveal that they know the information to begin with. A perjury trap is different. That’s where an individual is testifying on one matter but asked questions about an unrelated matter to incriminate themselves.

No argument from me about Carter Page’s warrant being fraudulent. That’s clear as day to me.

Papadopolous, Flynn and Manafort never had FISA warrants established on them.

Without FISA warrants how was it that the FBI could spy on all four, Carter Page, Flynn, Popadopulous, and Manafort?

Flynn was talking to someone with a legit FISA warrant so we caught his conversation There never was any surveillance on him specifically. I don’t think anyone spied on Papadopolous. Manafort could have been subject to a regular warrant because he had a pre-existing FBI investigation due to his many, many financial crimes.

The FISA warrant was illegal, douchebag. Before the meeting, these 2 douchebags had listened to recordings of his phone call with the Russian ambassador.

The FISA warrant was on the Russian ambassador you idiot. That wasn’t an illegal warrant.

 

[B. Kidd]

None of the senat6ors went to bat for General Flynn.
Flynn was setup and then his family was squeezed to lie about Trump.
There are so many FBI crimes to prosecute that if Horowitz missed them I hope Durham fixes them.

No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

James Comey

✔@Comey
Crooked Comey:

"So it was all lies. No treason. No spying on the campaign. No tapping Trumps wires. It was just good people trying to protect America."https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/james-comey-the-truth-is-finally-out-the-fbi-fulfilled-its-mission/2019/12/09/614df00c-1aad-11ea-8d58-5ac3600967a1_story.html …


Opinion | James Comey: The truth is finally out. The FBI fulfilled its mission.
Now those who attacked the FBI for two years should admit they were wrong.

washingtonpost.com

In fact, the IG report did not find there was “no spying.”




HOROWITZ ADMITS FBI ENGAGED IN “ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE” OF TRUMP CAMPAIGN

‘It’s illegal surveillance. It’s not court-authorized surveillance’

IG Horowitz: FISA Surveillance W/o Legal Foundation Is “Illegal Surveillance”


IG Horowitz: FISA Surveillance W/o Legal Foundation Is “Illegal Surveillance”

The FBI's "break in" of the Trump campaign was 1000x worse than the Nixon "plumbers" breaking into the DNC headquarters.
The FBI's illegal surveillance and coup plots of Trump are now the biggest scandal in US history.

Oh absolutely! Intelligence Agencies have tremendous power and must be totally trustworthy. The FBI has completely violated that trust by becoming an attack wing of the Democratic Party.

It is gonna take years to get that trust back, if ever.
I don't believe the current FBI head is up to the task.
He appears to be a keep-your-head-low and this-too-will-soon-blow-over bureaucratic pencil neck.
Just my opinion.

 

[B. Kidd]

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

That’s not what a perjury trap is. Sometimes the FBI will ask questions to people that they already know the answer to. If there’s a lie, it provides them more information than if they reveal that they know the information to begin with. A perjury trap is different. That’s where an individual is testifying on one matter but asked questions about an unrelated matter to incriminate themselves.

No argument from me about Carter Page’s warrant being fraudulent. That’s clear as day to me.

Papadopolous, Flynn and Manafort never had FISA warrants established on them.

Without FISA warrants how was it that the FBI could spy on all four, Carter Page, Flynn, Popadopulous, and Manafort?

Flynn was talking to someone with a legit FISA warrant so we caught his conversation There never was any surveillance on him specifically. I don’t think anyone spied on Papadopolous. Manafort could have been subject to a regular warrant because he had a pre-existing FBI investigation due to his many, many financial crimes.

You think no one spied on Papadopolous?
Really?
You didn't watch the IG testimony today. Did you?
So STFU!

I have a job so I didn’t have time to sit for 8 hours of testimony. Did Horowitz say Papadopolous was spied on? If so how?

A Bureau asset was wearing a wire.

 

[colfax_m]

No one went to bat for Flynn because Flynn lied. No one made him lie. He knew what he was doing. He lied to the FBI and supposedly he lied to Pence which is why Trump fires him in the first place.

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

James Comey

✔@Comey
Crooked Comey:

"So it was all lies. No treason. No spying on the campaign. No tapping Trumps wires. It was just good people trying to protect America."https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/james-comey-the-truth-is-finally-out-the-fbi-fulfilled-its-mission/2019/12/09/614df00c-1aad-11ea-8d58-5ac3600967a1_story.html …


Opinion | James Comey: The truth is finally out. The FBI fulfilled its mission.
Now those who attacked the FBI for two years should admit they were wrong.

washingtonpost.com

In fact, the IG report did not find there was “no spying.”




HOROWITZ ADMITS FBI ENGAGED IN “ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE” OF TRUMP CAMPAIGN

‘It’s illegal surveillance. It’s not court-authorized surveillance’

IG Horowitz: FISA Surveillance W/o Legal Foundation Is “Illegal Surveillance”


IG Horowitz: FISA Surveillance W/o Legal Foundation Is “Illegal Surveillance”

The FBI's "break in" of the Trump campaign was 1000x worse than the Nixon "plumbers" breaking into the DNC headquarters.
The FBI's illegal surveillance and coup plots of Trump are now the biggest scandal in US history.

Oh absolutely! Intelligence Agencies have tremendous power and must be totally trustworthy. The FBI has completely violated that trust by becoming an attack wing of the Democratic Party.

It is gonna take years to get that trust back, if ever.
I don't believe the current FBI head is up to the task.
He appears to be a keep-your-head-low and this-too-will-soon-blow-over bureaucratic pencil neck.
Just my opinion.

Good lord. Some hacks lie on one warrant and you guys act like the world is coming to an end.

Get some perspective.

 

[B. Kidd]

The FBI went to the WH specifically to nail Flynn.
It was a perjury trap from the onset because Flynn was one of the (4) guys under FBI surveillance, Carter Page, Flynn, Manafort, and Popadopolus.
1. The Carter Page FISA application was a crime, period.
2. Popadopulous' FISA warrant?! Didn't hear about it, except that and Austrailian, Mr. Downer, said that he heard bar talk, that was setup by the CIA and Mifsud.
3. General Flynn's FISA application wasn't discussed that I heard?! I still say he was setup by the FBI who knew exactly what he said to Kisliak.
4. Manafort I could understand spying on, his connections had connections had connections

James Comey

✔@Comey
Crooked Comey:

"So it was all lies. No treason. No spying on the campaign. No tapping Trumps wires. It was just good people trying to protect America."https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/james-comey-the-truth-is-finally-out-the-fbi-fulfilled-its-mission/2019/12/09/614df00c-1aad-11ea-8d58-5ac3600967a1_story.html …


Opinion | James Comey: The truth is finally out. The FBI fulfilled its mission.
Now those who attacked the FBI for two years should admit they were wrong.

washingtonpost.com

In fact, the IG report did not find there was “no spying.”




HOROWITZ ADMITS FBI ENGAGED IN “ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE” OF TRUMP CAMPAIGN

‘It’s illegal surveillance. It’s not court-authorized surveillance’

IG Horowitz: FISA Surveillance W/o Legal Foundation Is “Illegal Surveillance”


IG Horowitz: FISA Surveillance W/o Legal Foundation Is “Illegal Surveillance”

The FBI's "break in" of the Trump campaign was 1000x worse than the Nixon "plumbers" breaking into the DNC headquarters.
The FBI's illegal surveillance and coup plots of Trump are now the biggest scandal in US history.

Oh absolutely! Intelligence Agencies have tremendous power and must be totally trustworthy. The FBI has completely violated that trust by becoming an attack wing of the Democratic Party.

It is gonna take years to get that trust back, if ever.
I don't believe the current FBI head is up to the task.
He appears to be a keep-your-head-low and this-too-will-soon-blow-over bureaucratic pencil neck.
Just my opinion.

Good lord. Some hacks lie on one warrant and you guys act like the world is coming to an end.

Get some perspective.

Watch the replay on C-Span.
Get some perspective.

 

[colfax_m]

That’s not what a perjury trap is. Sometimes the FBI will ask questions to people that they already know the answer to. If there’s a lie, it provides them more information than if they reveal that they know the information to begin with. A perjury trap is different. That’s where an individual is testifying on one matter but asked questions about an unrelated matter to incriminate themselves.

No argument from me about Carter Page’s warrant being fraudulent. That’s clear as day to me.

Papadopolous, Flynn and Manafort never had FISA warrants established on them.

Without FISA warrants how was it that the FBI could spy on all four, Carter Page, Flynn, Popadopulous, and Manafort?

Flynn was talking to someone with a legit FISA warrant so we caught his conversation There never was any surveillance on him specifically. I don’t think anyone spied on Papadopolous. Manafort could have been subject to a regular warrant because he had a pre-existing FBI investigation due to his many, many financial crimes.

You think no one spied on Papadopolous?
Really?
You didn't watch the IG testimony today. Did you?
So STFU!

I have a job so I didn’t have time to sit for 8 hours of testimony. Did Horowitz say Papadopolous was spied on? If so how?

A Bureau asset was wearing a wire.

Oh, that’s it? You don’t need a FISA warrant to record someone talking to you.