Homeschooling: Your Views, Please

[Redfish]

Homeschooling-------------good for educating, bad for learning social skills.

 

[Wake]

Homeschooling-------------good for educating, bad for learning social skills.

Public schooling-------------good for learning social skills, bad for educating.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

 

[Pogo]

Homeschooling-------------good for educating, bad for learning social skills.

Public schooling-------------good for learning social skills, bad for educating.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

"Bad for educating" is an unworkable blanket statement of course; one school might be while another might be excellent. But "good for learning social skills" strikes me as positively absurd. Socially it was the worst experience I was ever forced through, ever. Kids don't get depressed and suicidal and homicidal for no reason. And being forced to be in an institution against one's will is where it starts.

I know the post was in jest, but c'mon...

 

[Redfish]

Homeschooling-------------good for educating, bad for learning social skills.

Public schooling-------------good for learning social skills, bad for educating.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

lol true today but not in the past, and thats the real tragedy-----thank liberals and the teachers union.

 

[Redfish]

Homeschooling-------------good for educating, bad for learning social skills.

Public schooling-------------good for learning social skills, bad for educating.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

"Bad for educating" is an unworkable blanket statement of course; one school might be while another might be excellent. But "good for learning social skills" strikes me as positively absurd. Socially it was the worst experience I was ever forced through, ever. Kids don't get depressed and suicidal and homicidal for no reason.

I know the post was in jest, but c'mon...

So your mental problems began in grammar school? Did little Sally Johnson turn you down for the 6th grade dance and did you get picked last for the recess softball game?

Pooooooooooooooor little libtard.

 

[Pogo]

Homeschooling-------------good for educating, bad for learning social skills.

Public schooling-------------good for learning social skills, bad for educating.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

lol true today but not in the past, and thats the real tragedy-----thank liberals and the teachers union.

^^ There's always gotta be one, doesn't there?

 

[Pogo]

Public schooling-------------good for learning social skills, bad for educating.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

"Bad for educating" is an unworkable blanket statement of course; one school might be while another might be excellent. But "good for learning social skills" strikes me as positively absurd. Socially it was the worst experience I was ever forced through, ever. Kids don't get depressed and suicidal and homicidal for no reason.

I know the post was in jest, but c'mon...

So your mental problems began in grammar school? Did little Sally Johnson turn you down for the 6th grade dance and did you get picked last for the recess softball game?

Pooooooooooooooor little libtard.

I was actually agreeing with you, shit-for-brains.

This is exactly the kind of element that pollutes such an institution -- the insecure obnoxious little **** who isn't satisfied until he's denigrating somebody else. Authoritarian sycophant.

 

[Meathead]

"Bad for educating" is an unworkable blanket statement of course; one school might be while another might be excellent. But "good for learning social skills" strikes me as positively absurd. Socially it was the worst experience I was ever forced through, ever. Kids don't get depressed and suicidal and homicidal for no reason.

I know the post was in jest, but c'mon...

So your mental problems began in grammar school? Did little Sally Johnson turn you down for the 6th grade dance and did you get picked last for the recess softball game?

Pooooooooooooooor little libtard.

I was actually agreeing with you, shit-for-brains.

Please tell us again about the "right" way to think. I never tire of that.

 

[Redfish]

"Bad for educating" is an unworkable blanket statement of course; one school might be while another might be excellent. But "good for learning social skills" strikes me as positively absurd. Socially it was the worst experience I was ever forced through, ever. Kids don't get depressed and suicidal and homicidal for no reason.
I know the post was in jest, but c'mon...

So your mental problems began in grammar school? Did little Sally Johnson turn you down for the 6th grade dance and did you get picked last for the recess softball game?

Pooooooooooooooor little libtard.

I was actually agreeing with you, shit-for-brains.

This is exactly the kind of element that pollutes such an institution -- the insecure obnoxious little **** who isn't satisfied until he's denigrating somebody else. Authoritarian sycophant.

no you were'nt. but your lack of reading comprehension skills is noted.

 

[sealybobo]

Our church sponsors an AWANA group providing Christian education and socialization for mostly home schooled kids.

The group that meets at our church--most are NOT members of our church--now totals some 400 kids from elementary through high school. There are several other such groups across the city, across the country, and in other countries as well.

These kids are indeed kids from some of the poorest neighborhoods to some of the most affluent neighborhoods--most are just from your average middle class family. The one thing they all have in common is that they are amazing young people--courteous, caring, ambitious, creative, and almost all accomplished in activities other than pure academia. It is extremely rare that these kids get knocked up, get involved with illegal substances or activities, or otherwise make terrible choices that severely negatively impact them. The high school graduation rate is right at 100% and almost all go on to get some kind of advanced education. The college graduation rate is very high compared to the general population.

My own great nephew was home schooled by his mom from first through 12th grade--she had only a high school education himself. He himself was of average intelligence--not a genius or anything--but he scored in the upper percentiles on his SATs that earned him a scholarship to a good school where he graduated magna cume laude in four years.

I got a good education in public schools, but that was before the federal government began seriously meddling in the process--we could sing religious Christmas carols in the school Christmas (not winter) concert--etc. My kids got a fairly good education in the public schools again before the government started seriously meddling.

If I had a kid to educate now, and could not afford a top notch private or parochial school, I would home school. No way would I use the public education system now.

So you don't consider forcing atheists, jews and muslims to sing christmas carols meddling?

I have little doubt that his children's education would trump any such consideration.

Ah the old 2 steps forward one step back approach.

 

[Pogo]

no you were'nt. but your lack of reading comprehension skills is noted.

Ironical spelling is ironic; weren't = "were not", ergo the apostrophe stands in for the o in not. It doesn't stand for a space between words leaving the o AWOL.
Dumbass.

So your mental problems began in grammar school? Did little Sally Johnson turn you down for the 6th grade dance and did you get picked last for the recess softball game?

Pooooooooooooooor little libtard.

I was actually agreeing with you, shit-for-brains.

Please tell us again about the "right" way to think. I never tire of that.

Are you saying the ad hominem all comes from the right?

Yeah I notice that too. Why do you think that is?

Ya think it's their schooling -- or their fucked up social skills? You oughta see the knuckledragging diarrhea Redfish-loser is streaming a constant flow to my PM box right now just because he's too stupid to address the topic without devolving into political demagoguery and personal attack.

Is that the public school social scene that teaches that? Or was it his environment? Or is it inbred?
Nature or nurture?

 

[Peach]

It works a hundred times better than union based schools but only if the parents care enough to follow the curriculum.

You have no data to support your claim.

However, I think the key is parental involvement in home or private or public school.

All but five states have public school employee associations and there is some fine public schooling going on in our nation.

The joy of bringing home straight "As" and getting the usually sparse sweet treats would be missing. Of course also absent would be the sigh and shake of the head with "Why did you make a 'B', are mad about something? Seriously, I believe public schooling is superior, in most locales, not all. Depends on that, and the parents. But children do need to away from parents sometimes & vice versa.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Bowe Bergdahl was homeschooled by conservative Christian parents.

 

[Samson]

Bowe Bergdahl was homeschooled by conservative Christian parents.

He also practiced ballet.

Your point is that deserters have eclectic backgrounds.

 

[Samson]

It works a hundred times better than union based schools but only if the parents care enough to follow the curriculum.

You have no data to support your claim.

However, I think the key is parental involvement in home or private or public school.

All but five states have public school employee associations and there is some fine public schooling going on in our nation.

No data to support your claim.

One wonders how you can so consistantly parrot that sentence, yet never notice that you're the pot that calls kettle black.....

 

[Samson]

Homeschooling-------------good for educating, bad for learning social skills.

Public schooling-------------good for learning social skills, bad for educating.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

lol true today but not in the past, and thats the real tragedy-----thank liberals and the teachers union.

Ah the LIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiIIIIIIBERALS.......

What a tiresome refrain.

Unionization has almost nothing to do with quality education, nor does partisan affiliation.

 

[P@triot]

This is from a NY school teacher and really illustrates everything that is wrong with the disease known as liberalism - the one size fits all mentality that libtards bring to every facet of life. One federal government size fits all. One Common Core and public school education fits all. One fucked up ideology fits all...

David learns to read at age four; Rachel, at age nine: In normal development, when both are 13, you can’t tell which one learned first—the five-year spread means nothing at all. But in school I label Rachel "learning disabled" and slow David down a bit, too. For a paycheck, I adjust David to depend on me to tell him when to go and stop. He won’t outgrow that dependency. I identify Rachel as discount merchandise, "special education" fodder. She’ll be locked in her place forever.

In 30 years of teaching kids rich and poor I almost never met a learning disabled child; hardly ever met a gifted and talented one either. Like all school categories, these are sacred myths, created by human imagination. They derive from questionable values we never examine because they preserve the temple of schooling.

That’s the secret behind short-answer tests, bells, uniform time blocks, age grading, standardization, and all the rest of the school religion punishing our nation. There isn’t a right way to become educated; there are as many ways as fingerprints. We don’t need state-certified teachers to make education happen—that probably guarantees it won’t.

How much more evidence is necessary? Good schools don’t need more money or a longer year; they need real free-market choices, variety that speaks to every need and runs risks. We don’t need a national curriculum or national testing either. Both initiatives arise from ignorance of how people learn or deliberate indifference to it. I can’t teach this way any longer. If you hear of a job where I don’t have to hurt kids to make a living, let me know. Come fall I’ll be looking for work.

Public Education

 

[PaintMyHouse]

"I can’t teach this way any longer. If you hear of a job where I don’t have to hurt kids to make a living, let me know. Come fall I’ll be looking for work."

Hey Teach, don't let the door hit you on the ass as your leave. Let us know if you need boxes.

 

[G.T.]

My Take:

There are Biology teachers who take years of schooling on the one subject.
There are history teachers who take years of schooling on the one subject.
There are chemistry teachers who take years of schooling on the one subject.



While a parent could likely google everything to ascertain an "ok-enough" understanding on every little subject, they're never be quite as polished on a per subject basis like that of an individual who is versed on one particular subject.

 

[Pogo]

This is from a NY school teacher and really illustrates everything that is wrong with the disease known as liberalism - the one size fits all mentality that libtards bring to every facet of life. One federal government size fits all. One Common Core and public school education fits all. One fucked up ideology fits all...

David learns to read at age four; Rachel, at age nine: In normal development, when both are 13, you can’t tell which one learned first—the five-year spread means nothing at all. But in school I label Rachel "learning disabled" and slow David down a bit, too. For a paycheck, I adjust David to depend on me to tell him when to go and stop. He won’t outgrow that dependency. I identify Rachel as discount merchandise, "special education" fodder. She’ll be locked in her place forever.

In 30 years of teaching kids rich and poor I almost never met a learning disabled child; hardly ever met a gifted and talented one either. Like all school categories, these are sacred myths, created by human imagination. They derive from questionable values we never examine because they preserve the temple of schooling.

That’s the secret behind short-answer tests, bells, uniform time blocks, age grading, standardization, and all the rest of the school religion punishing our nation. There isn’t a right way to become educated; there are as many ways as fingerprints. We don’t need state-certified teachers to make education happen—that probably guarantees it won’t.

How much more evidence is necessary? Good schools don’t need more money or a longer year; they need real free-market choices, variety that speaks to every need and runs risks. We don’t need a national curriculum or national testing either. Both initiatives arise from ignorance of how people learn or deliberate indifference to it. I can’t teach this way any longer. If you hear of a job where I don’t have to hurt kids to make a living, let me know. Come fall I’ll be looking for work.

Public Education

Guess what Stupid: Institutional structure is not a matter of politics. And this just in: education is not a commodity to be bought and sold in a "free market". I know that's hard for your TV-addicted Randbot Ferengi mind where all human values have a price tag in some kind of street bazaar to ponder, but not everything reduces to the values of roll-on deodorant. Though I'm not at all surprised you're shallow enough to come up with this goofy shit.