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The funniest thing, if Earth was warming, which it isn't, there would be less wildfires not more...




"During the Jurassic Period, the Earth's climate was much warmer and wetter than it is today"


which makes sense given that when oceans do warm, they emit more H2O back into atmosphere, causing more rain, and more rain means less fires...
The funniest thing, if Earth was warming, which it isn't, there would be less wildfires not more...




"During the Jurassic Period, the Earth's climate was much warmer and wetter than it is today"


which makes sense given that when oceans do warm, they emit more H2O back into atmosphere, causing more rain, and more rain means less fires...
Funny that you simply ignore what is presently happening. Apparently you are living in an alternative universe. For major warming has both effects. It increases the amount of rain when it does rain, and also creates what today is being called flash droughts.

 
Your side has a THEORY, that increasing atmospheric CO2 warms atmosphere.

We have two and only two measures of atmospheric temps, satellites and balloons. What did the ACTUAL DATA show before your side FUDGED IT in 2005?




satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling (or more precisely showed precisely NO WARMING in highly correlated fashion for 3+ decades of rising CO2)


SCIENCE SAYS THEORY REJECTED

"The Science" says FUDGE THE DATA and continue to BILK THE TAXPAYER
Why don't you take some third grade remedial reading classes? Because that article definitely states that the evidence is that the atmosphere is warming.

"For years, skeptics of global warming have used satellite and weather balloon data to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening.

Now, according to three new studies published in the journal Science, it turns out those conclusions based on satellite and weather balloon data were based on faulty analyses.


The atmosphere is indeed warming, not cooling as the data previously showed.


While surface thermometers have clearly shown that the Earth's surface is warming, satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling.

Scientists were left with two choices: either the atmosphere wasn't warming up, or something was wrong with the data.

"But most people had to conclude, based on the fact that there were both satellite and balloon observations, that it really wasn't warming up," said Steven Sherwood, a geologists at Yale University and lead author of one of the studies.

Oops!"


The article continues to explain why the balloons and radiosondes gave incorrect data. Now either you never read the article, or you are deliberately lying about what was in the article because of your perverted political views.
 
Another really dumb **** post.
"Thirty years ago, scientists and engineers launched a new satellite to study the rising and falling of seas over time, a task that once could only be done from the coast. TOPEX/Poseidon rocketed into space on August 10, 1992, and started a 30-year record of ocean surface height around the world. The observations have confirmed on a global scale what scientists previously saw from the shoreline: the seas are rising, and the pace is quickening.

Scientists have found that global mean sea level—shown in the line plot above and below—has risen 10.1 centimeters (3.98 inches) since 1992. Over the past 140 years, satellites and tide gauges together show that global sea level has risen 21 to 24 centimeters (8 to 9 inches)."

So the photos are all lying?

So Obama bought beach front property because he's stupid?

So banks lend on Hudson Yards because they're stupid?
 
Indeed, the idiocy required to believe CO2 FRAUD is breathtaking.

Your side has ZERO actual evidence.

Surface Air Pressure prove

1. Earth is NOT WARMING
2. Earth is not experiencing an ongoing net ice melt

and maybe that is why

Bill Gates defunded his climate activist group
Blackrock divested from climate stocks
There has not yet been a Million MORON March on DC protesting "climate denialism"
Have you ever bothered to take a university level chemistry or physics class? If so, how the hell did you fail to read the part about how GHGs capture the energy in certain outgoing wavelengths of infrared? A million moron march would consist of you ignorant denialists. LOL
 
So the photos are all lying?

So Obama bought beach front property because he's stupid?

So banks lend on Hudson Yards because they're stupid?
So you are going to see 8 or 9 inches in those photos? Maybe you don't realize that there is something called tides in the oceans. And the tidal gauges have recorded that rise. Really though, we do understand that you are a Trumpanzee that prefers lies to truth, just like all Trumpanzees. For you, venomous politics trumps reality.
 
Sure, and I am Napoleon reincarnated. LOL And just where are you going to get the manpower to clear all the debris in the forests? There are 294,275 square miles of forest in the US. That is 818,814,000 acres. And much of the terrain is rather rough. How many tens of thousands of people are you going to hire on a year round basis for that work? Where are you going to get them, and how are you going to pay for them. Westie, you are an unfunny joke.
Nay, you're not remotely smart enough.

Never said all. Holy crap, look at those logging companies. Desperate for work. Oh damn, you enviro wackos put most of them out of business.

Not to worry. There's plenty of folks who want to work.
 
So you are going to see 8 or 9 inches in those photos? Maybe you don't realize that there is something called tides in the oceans. And the tidal gauges have recorded that rise. Really though, we do understand that you are a Trumpanzee that prefers lies to truth, just like all Trumpanzees. For you, venomous politics trumps reality.

I'm allergic to nonsense, especially when it's paid disinformation trying to pass itself off as "science"

It's not "tides" or you would rush to show us how the water rose. It's an offshoot of why you have absolutely no lab work, it failed your propaganda passing as a "theory"

How come they could do a controlled experiment in 1858, but you climate "scientists" can't?
 
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Scientists have found that global mean sea level—shown in the line plot above and below—has risen 10.1 centimeters (3.98 inches) since 1992


Not understanding the difference between DATA and FUDGE, a necessary level of idiocy and science invalidity necessary to fall for CO2 FRAUD.
 
The Antarctic gained so much ice mass the sea levels will likely fall, not rise


All factors must be considered.

Burning hydrocarbons... gives off H2O = adding to sea level rise
laughable but true ... increase in number and size of boats in oceans, cruise and cargo ships = adding to sea level rise
Antarctica - massively subtracting from sea level
Greenland - subtracting from sea level
The rest, all 3% of Earth ice, is mostly melting = adding to sea level rise


We would need the actual satellite data to see which direction, if any, sea level is microscopically trending... because visibly it is clearly NO CHANGE.
 
The best part is the AGW's Cult undying devotion to China's world leading CO2 output. That's how you can tell who own the AGW Cult
 
Maybe you don't realize that there is something called tides in the oceans



THIS is the "official CO2 FRAUD" response - every single old photo of Lady Liberty was done with the Moon precisely over the torch....

LOL!!!!



The IDIOCY of the CO2 FRAUD, someday will be a comedy movie...
 
The best part is the AGW's Cult undying devotion to China's world leading CO2 output. That's how you can tell who own the AGW Cult


China is the #1 beneficiary of CO2 FRAUD. It possesses the most "rare Earths." It dominates EV manufacturing. There are tens of trillions of dollars at stake on whether DOJ finally does what it should have done right before W appointed Mukasey.
 
Have you ever bothered to take a university level chemistry or physics class? If so, how the hell did you fail to read the part about how GHGs capture the energy in certain outgoing wavelengths of infrared? A million moron march would consist of you ignorant denialists. LOL


LOL!!!

Ozone O3 absorbs UV. CO2 absorbs IR.

UV is 10k more powerful than IR. IR is weak. How much CO2 is in atmosphere doesn't matter. Earth will emit the same about of IR with or without CO2. The satellites and weather balloons prove that while CO2 increased, atmospheric temps did not.

YOU are the one in DENIAL.

YOU are a PARROT of FUDGE AND FRAUD.
 
Why don't you take some third grade remedial reading classes? Because that article definitely states that the evidence is that the atmosphere is warming.



CLASSIC!!!


The ACTUAL DATA showed NO WARMING...

The CONFLICTED TAXPAYER FUNDED FUDGEBAKING LIARS HAD A CHOICE:

admit increasing atmospheric CO2 did not cause any warming at all, shut down, zero out climate funding, and get a new resume ready

or

FUDGE THE DATA and keep bilking the taxpayer



and what of the FUDGE JOB?

For satellites, the claim is that "orbit wobble" changed the IR readings. THAT IS COMPLETELY FALSE. Distance is not a variable for IR readings. We use IR to measure Pluto's temp.

For weather balloons, the claim was a "shade issue." If so, that would result in adding or subtracting a CONSTANT to all data, which would have kept a FLAT LINE a flat line. But, instead, this "shade issue" was used to FUDGE a FLAT LINE into an upward slope.



Just how STUPID does one have to be to buy that??
 
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Well now, that was from 1858, here is a summary from 2021;

Plain Language Summary​


Increasing CO2 reduces the rate at which energy leaves Earth, causing a net energy gain at its surface. The resulting warming increases the rate that energy leaves the planet. The planet stops warming once it regains balance. Studies usually assume that doubling atmospheric CO2 always produces the same eventual global temperature rise (called the “equilibrium climate sensitivity”), whatever the starting CO2 level. We show, on the contrary, that in nearly all the computer climate models we have examined, the extra warming for each doubling goes up as the CO2 level increases. In most models, the warmer the climate becomes, the more it has to warm in order to balance a further CO2 doubling because warming becomes less effective at rebalancing the flow of energy. This effect increases projections of warming, especially for scenarios of greatest CO2 increase.

And then the math;


2 Equilibrium Warming​

Let T be the globally averaged surface temperature and ΔTTT<em>pi</em> be the warming relative to the preindustrial period. We define ΔT<em>eq</em>(C) as the equilibrium warming caused by changing the CO2 concentration from its preindustrial value (pCO2,<em>pi</em> ≈ 280ppm) to a new value (pCO2), where Cis the number of CO2 doublings relative to this preindustrial period,
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(1)
Under preindustrial conditions, C<em>pi</em> = 0; in an abrupt 2 × CO2 simulation, C = 1; and so forth. Table S1 is a glossary of all symbols used in this paper.

One condition for equilibrium is that the net top-of-atmosphere radiative flux N (downwards positive) is zero, on average. If we assume that N depends solely on C and T, then we can express a change in N in an abrupt n × CO2 simulation as an initial change due to C and a subsequent change due to T:
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(2)
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(3)
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(4)
F is the radiative forcing, the change in N relative to a given initial condition (C<em>i</em>, T<em>i</em>) caused by C doublings of CO2 while holding surface temperature fixed (F(C<em>i</em>, T<em>i</em>, C) ≡ N(C<em>i</em> + C, T<em>i</em>) − N(C<em>i</em>, T<em>i</em>)), and λ is the radiative feedback, the dependence of N on T (λ(C, T) ≡ ∂N(C, T)/∂T), where the sign convention implies the feedback is typically negative. We can find ΔT<em>eq</em>(C) by setting N(C, T) = 0:
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(5)
where we assume N(C<em>pi</em>, T<em>pi</em>) = 0, since the preindustrial climate was roughly in equilibrium.

Under preindustrial concentrations, the spectral line shape of CO2 absorption bands creates a logarithmic dependence of N on changes in pCO2, so that the forcing per CO2doubling (
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) is often assumed to be constant (Myhre et al., 1998). Our definition of radiative forcing also includes adjustments of the atmosphere, land, and ocean to CO2 changes that occur independently of subsequent changes in surface temperature (e.g., Kamae et al., 2015; Sherwood et al., 2014). This “effective radiative forcing” is also often assumed to be constant per CO2 doubling (Forster et al., 2016), as is the radiative feedback (Gregory et al., 2004; Hansen et al., 1985). Substituting these constant terms into Equation 5, we can solve for ΔT<em>eq</em>(C):
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(6)
Assuming a constant
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and λ is equivalent to approximating N(T, C) with the linear Taylor expansion of N around preindustrial values of C<em>pi</em> and T<em>pi</em> (i.e.,
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, where C = ΔC because C<em>pi</em> = 0). The linear approximation of Equation 6 is ubiquitous in climate science (e.g., Knutti et al., 2017; Stocker et al., 2013).

The linear approximation implies that the equilibrium climate sensitivityT2<em>x</em>), the equilibrium warming per CO2 doubling, is simply
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, which, being a ratio of two constants, is itself a constant. It should therefore not matter how many CO2 doublings are used to estimate it since ΔT2<em>x</em> = ΔT<em>eq</em> (C1)/C1 = ΔT<em>eq</em> (C2)/C2. Figure 1a shows instead that our estimates of ΔT<em>eq</em>(C)/C increase with CO2 concentration for 13 of 14 models. Colored bars show estimates made by extrapolating regressions of years 21–150 of N against ΔT to equilibrium (N = 0) for abrupt 2<em>C</em> × CO2 simulations (Gregory et al., 2004, see also solid gray lines in Figure S1). In these estimates, N and ΔT are anomalies: for LongRunMIP, we subtract the model's control simulation's mean value; for CMIP6, we subtract the linear fit of the control simulation after the branch point for the abrupt n × CO2 simulations. We use only one ensemble member for each simulation.


Now that is a American Geophysical Union publication, and I am sure that old Westie thinks he is smarter than all the real scientists in the AGU.


$76 trillion!
 
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All factors must be considered.

Burning hydrocarbons... gives off H2O = adding to sea level rise
laughable but true ... increase in number and size of boats in oceans, cruise and cargo ships = adding to sea level rise
Antarctica - massively subtracting from sea level
Greenland - subtracting from sea level
The rest, all 3% of Earth ice, is mostly melting = adding to sea level rise


We would need the actual satellite data to see which direction, if any, sea level is microscopically trending... because visibly it is clearly NO CHANGE.
Lordy, lordy. Yes you are truly that ignorant and stupid. LOL

"The sea level dataset provided here by C3S is climate-oriented, that is, dedicated to the monitoring of the long-term evolution of sea level and the analysis of the ocean/climate indicators, both requiring a homogeneous and stable sea level record. To achieve this, a steady two-satellite merged constellation is used at all time steps in the production system: one satellite serves as reference and ensures the long-term stability of the data record; the other satellite (which varies across the record) is used to improve accuracy, sample mesoscale processes and provide coverage at high latitudes. The C3S sea level dataset is used to produce Ocean Monitoring Indicators (e.g. global and regional mean sea level evolution), available in the CMEMS catalogue."

 
CLASSIC!!!


The ACTUAL DATA showed NO WARMING...

The CONFLICTED TAXPAYER FUNDED FUDGEBAKING LIARS HAD A CHOICE:

admit increasing atmospheric CO2 did not cause any warming at all, shut down, zero out climate funding, and get a new resume ready

or

FUDGE THE DATA and keep bilking the taxpayer



and what of the FUDGE JOB?

For satellites, the claim is that "orbit wobble" changed the IR readings. THAT IS COMPLETELY FALSE. Distance is not a variable for IR readings. We use IR to measure Pluto's temp.

For weather balloons, the claim was a "shade issue." If so, that would result in adding or subtracting a CONSTANT to all data, which would have kept a FLAT LINE a flat line. But, instead, this "shade issue" was used to FUDGE a FLAT LINE into an upward slope.



Just how STUPID does one have to be to buy that??
How stupid does a silly ass have to be to flap yap and show no evidence, when in his previous post he presented evidence that said just the opposite of what he claimed it did? Fellow, your credibility rating is about the same as Trump's.
 
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