Holocaust History

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A point over lookec. She was murdered in a concentration camp

 

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Bergen Belsen was liberated by the British 11th Armoured Division, not the Americans, so wherever that was it was not Belsen, my Dads unit passed by Belsen a couple of days later.

 

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Who was the creepiest, scariest-looking Nazi in WW2?
Irma Grese was young, blue-eyed blonde, she was the ideal of Hitler’s Aryan race. According to Dr. Gisella Perl, an inmate doctor at Auschwitz, “She was one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. Her body was perfect in every line, her face clear and angelic, and her blue eyes …the most innocent eyes one can imagine. And yet Irma Grese was the most depraved, cruel, imaginative pervert I ever came across.”

Irma Grese was convicted of crimes involving the ill-treatment and murder of prisoners committed at Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen concentration camps, and sentenced to death at the Belsen trial. She was executed at just 22 years of age, Grese was the youngest woman to die judicially under British law in the 20th century. Auschwitz inmates nicknamed her the "Hyena of Auschwitz" ("die Hyäne von Auschwitz"). She also called the Blonde Beast of Birkenau.

Convicted and hanged, Irma Grese rewrote the definition of being horrible even by Nazi standards. She got the position in the Auschwitz due to her beefy outlook and ruthless attitude, but very few knew that she was a twisted psychopath. Irma got pleasure by torturing and beating people in all kinds of horrible ways.

She would carry two hungry dogs with her at all time; she would beat people with her custom-made belt with pointy studs on. She quickly gained a reputation of a ruthless and evil person, and her popularity grew with every passing day.

She would slash women with knives, and then see painful surgery to satisfy her. By her acts, she put many Nazis to shame and was put to death when she was only 22 after committing a number of murders and torturing hundreds of prisoners.

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She was a sadistic depraved farmers Daughter.

 

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First Bernadotte Plan (1948)

First Bernadotte Plan (1948) at ECF.org's interactive database

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Members of the Jewish underground organization LEHI killed UN Peace Mediator Count Folke Bernadotte to protest his diplomatic efforts to modify the Palestine partition plan.

Those terrorists also made contact with the Nazis to attack British forces in Palestine and had a plan to kill Churchill.

 

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She was a sadistic depraved farmers Daughter.

Just up your street?

 

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Just up your street?

Trust you to be so grotesque, my Dad helped liberate that camp.

 

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Trust you to be so grotesque, my Dad helped liberate that camp.

 

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Those terrorists also made contact with the Nazis to attack British forces in Palestine and had a plan to kill Churchill.

Are you talking about Avraham Stern and his "Stern Gang" (aka Lehi)?

- "History Of Israeli Far-Right Collusion With Both Hitler And Stalin "​

History Of Israeli Far-Right Collusion With Both Hitler And Stalin – OpEd

It’s fairly well-known that both Yishuv political movements, the far-right and socialist left, collaborated (or proposed collaborating) with the Nazis when it appeared they could win WWII. In the 1930s, Chaim Arlosoroff, on behalf of Ben Gurion’s Mapai, negotiated the Haavara Agreement with the...

www.eurasiareview.com

EXCERPT "The Israeli far-right was not to be outdone in its own efforts to curry favor with the Nazis. It proposed becoming a military asset of the Reich in its fight against the British. The document prepared by Lehi for the Nazis is described in this Wikipedia article:

It offered assistance in transferring the Jews of Europe to Palestine, in return for Germany’s help in expelling Britain from Mandatory Palestine. Late in 1940…the organization [Lehi] offered coöperation in the following terms. Lehi would support sabotage and espionage operations in the Middle East and in eastern Europe…Germany would recognize an independent Jewish state in Palestine/Eretz Israel…
Stern also proposed recruiting some 40,000 Jews from occupied Europe to invade Palestine with German support to oust the British. On 11 January 1941, Vice Admiral Ralf von der Marwitz, the German Naval attaché in Turkey, filed a report (the “Ankara document”) conveying an offer by Lehi to “actively take part in the war on Germany’s side” in return for German support for “the establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich.” CONTINUED

The Ankara Document also exposes the degree to which early Zionist terrorists appealed to Germany's National Socialists (aka Nazis) for aid in fighting the British:

- "Israel’s state archive exposes Zionist efforts to enlist Nazis against Britain"​

Israel’s state archive exposes Zionist efforts to enlist Nazis against Britain

Efforts by Zionist militias to recruit Nazi Germany in the fight against the British Mandate authorities in Palestine have been revealed in newly-released transcripts in the Israel State Archive. The...

www.middleeastmonitor.com

EXCERPT "Documents released by the Israel State Archive include transcripts from the interrogation of Efraim Zetler, a member of the Zionist paramilitary group, Lehi. Zetler was interrogated by Haganah fighters in 1942 about his activities in Lehi, which is regarded as being more extreme than the Haganah Zionist paramilitary group. Lehi was responsible for several atrocities, including the massacre at Deir Yassin. Haganah, however, was no moderate group, and is thought to have carried out the terrorist bombing of Jerusalem’s King David Hotel in 1946.

The transcript of Zetler’s interrogation revealed Lehi’s ties with the Nazis. “We will communicate with any military power ready to help with the establishment of the kingdom of Israel, even if it’s Germany,” Zetler is reported to have told the astonished interrogators. “The only condition is that we get weapons, so we can rebel against the English,” he added. “If Germany agrees to help us fight enemy number 1, the English, we’ll team up with it.” Zetler went on to say that Germany is “not an enemy of the Jews in Israel” and that Lehi would cooperate with the Nazis if it helped the underground “get this land,” meaning Palestine." CONTINUED

The Zionists had good reason to expect arms and military training by the Nazis because there were already over 40 training camps in Germany run by the SS to train and arm Jews for fighting the British and executing the Nakba in Palestine:


- “Zionism and the Third Reich”
Zionism and the Third Reich

EXCERPT “In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. /19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS. /20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs. /21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. /22” CONTINUED

------------------SOURCES:
19. Lucy Dawidowicz, The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945 (New York: Bantam, pb., 1976), pp. 253-254.; Max Nussbaum, "Zionism Under Hitler," Congress Weekly (New York: American Jewish Congress), Sept. 11, 1942.; F. Nicosia, The Third Reich (1985), pp. 58-60, 217.; Edwin Black, The Transfer Agreement (1984), p. 175.

20. H. Höhne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine, pb., 1984), pp. 380-382.; K. Schleunes, Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p. 226.; Secret internal SS intelligence report about F. Polkes, June 17, 1937, in: John Mendelsohn, ed., The Holocaust (New York: Garland, 1982), vol. 5, pp. 62-64.

21. F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 63-64, 105, 219-220

22. F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 160.
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There is clearly more to Germany's pre WW 2 contributions to the establishment of Israel than the fraudulent Holocaust Industry (1), (2) would like for us to know.


Thanks,




(1). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(2). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"

Holocaust Claims Conference fraud likely ‘much higher’ than $57 million

For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.

www.jpost.com

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED

 

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Are you talking about Avraham Stern and his "Stern Gang" (aka Lehi)?

- "History Of Israeli Far-Right Collusion With Both Hitler And Stalin "​

History Of Israeli Far-Right Collusion With Both Hitler And Stalin – OpEd

It’s fairly well-known that both Yishuv political movements, the far-right and socialist left, collaborated (or proposed collaborating) with the Nazis when it appeared they could win WWII. In the 1930s, Chaim Arlosoroff, on behalf of Ben Gurion’s Mapai, negotiated the Haavara Agreement with the...

www.eurasiareview.com

EXCERPT "The Israeli far-right was not to be outdone in its own efforts to curry favor with the Nazis. It proposed becoming a military asset of the Reich in its fight against the British. The document prepared by Lehi for the Nazis is described in this Wikipedia article:



The Ankara Document also exposes the degree to which early Zionist terrorists appealed to Germany's National Socialists (aka Nazis) for aid in fighting the British:

- "Israel’s state archive exposes Zionist efforts to enlist Nazis against Britain"​

Israel’s state archive exposes Zionist efforts to enlist Nazis against Britain

Efforts by Zionist militias to recruit Nazi Germany in the fight against the British Mandate authorities in Palestine have been revealed in newly-released transcripts in the Israel State Archive. The...

www.middleeastmonitor.com

EXCERPT "Documents released by the Israel State Archive include transcripts from the interrogation of Efraim Zetler, a member of the Zionist paramilitary group, Lehi. Zetler was interrogated by Haganah fighters in 1942 about his activities in Lehi, which is regarded as being more extreme than the Haganah Zionist paramilitary group. Lehi was responsible for several atrocities, including the massacre at Deir Yassin. Haganah, however, was no moderate group, and is thought to have carried out the terrorist bombing of Jerusalem’s King David Hotel in 1946.

The transcript of Zetler’s interrogation revealed Lehi’s ties with the Nazis. “We will communicate with any military power ready to help with the establishment of the kingdom of Israel, even if it’s Germany,” Zetler is reported to have told the astonished interrogators. “The only condition is that we get weapons, so we can rebel against the English,” he added. “If Germany agrees to help us fight enemy number 1, the English, we’ll team up with it.” Zetler went on to say that Germany is “not an enemy of the Jews in Israel” and that Lehi would cooperate with the Nazis if it helped the underground “get this land,” meaning Palestine." CONTINUED

The Zionists had good reason to expect arms and military training by the Nazis because there were already over 40 training camps in Germany run by the SS to train and arm Jews for fighting the British and executing the Nakba in Palestine:


- “Zionism and the Third Reich”
Zionism and the Third Reich

EXCERPT “In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. /19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS. /20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs. /21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. /22” CONTINUED

------------------SOURCES:
19. Lucy Dawidowicz, The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945 (New York: Bantam, pb., 1976), pp. 253-254.; Max Nussbaum, "Zionism Under Hitler," Congress Weekly (New York: American Jewish Congress), Sept. 11, 1942.; F. Nicosia, The Third Reich (1985), pp. 58-60, 217.; Edwin Black, The Transfer Agreement (1984), p. 175.

20. H. Höhne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine, pb., 1984), pp. 380-382.; K. Schleunes, Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p. 226.; Secret internal SS intelligence report about F. Polkes, June 17, 1937, in: John Mendelsohn, ed., The Holocaust (New York: Garland, 1982), vol. 5, pp. 62-64.

21. F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 63-64, 105, 219-220

22. F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 160.
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There is clearly more to Germany's pre WW 2 contributions to the establishment of Israel than the fraudulent Holocaust Industry (1), (2) would like for us to know.


Thanks,




(1). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(2). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"

Holocaust Claims Conference fraud likely ‘much higher’ than $57 million

For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.

www.jpost.com

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED

Yes i am.

 

[Grau]

Yes i am.

Thanks for clearing that up.

As someone with an interest in firearms, I've seen 3 dimensional evidence that the SS helped arm Zionist terrorist gangs in the form of an 8 mm Mauser rifle.

This WW 2 era rifle had two markings side by side: one included a swastika marking next to a marking that included the Star of David.

They're understandably quite valuable as a fascinating piece of history.

 

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Thanks for clearing that up.

As someone with an interest in firearms, I've seen 3 dimensional evidence that the SS helped arm Zionist terrorist gangs in the form of an 8 mm Mauser rifle.

This WW 2 era rifle had two markings side by side: one included a swastika marking next to a marking that included the Star of David.

They're understandably quite valuable as a fascinating piece of history.

Never heard of that.

 

[Grau]

Never heard of that.

Well, now you have.
Sometimes truth really is stranger than fiction.

"German 98k rifle in Israeli service"​

German 98k rifle in Israeli service

The 98k was the most common firearm of Germany during WWII. It was used by all branches of the German military, in all theaters on all fronts, from the start of the war to the very end. It was in p…

wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com

(Receiver of an IDF 98k showing WWII waffenamt, or proofmarking, and partially-defaced reichsadler (eagle-holding-swastika) alongside Israeli proofmarks.)

 

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Thanks for clearing that up.

As someone with an interest in firearms, I've seen 3 dimensional evidence that the SS helped arm Zionist terrorist gangs in the form of an 8 mm Mauser rifle.

This WW 2 era rifle had two markings side by side: one included a swastika marking next to a marking that included the Star of David.

They're understandably quite valuable as a fascinating piece of history.

is this from the 1933-35 batch? The Stern gang was formed in 1940.

 

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[ I had posted before about Nicholas Winton. There is now a movie about that time ]

 

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