Holocaust History

[Sixties Fan]

I have been seeing a lot of article and threads on the Holocaust but have not found one which deals with the History, before, during and after. Therefore I am starting one now.

Any Holocaust denier is welcome to post and discuss here. Discuss, not attack, or troll. Proof that it did not happen, just post it.


It is important to tell History as it happened. Lets go at it.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I will start with the Nazi account from the beginning of Nazi persecution of Jews



I just found this 1936 book, The Yellow Spot, which documents in detail the beginnings of Nazi persecution of Jews in Germany, with lots of photos and facsimiles from Nazi media.

The terror in reading this book is in the knowledge that the horrific facts recounted here in mind-numbing detail - the pogroms, the arrests, the anti-Jewish laws, the ordinary Germans enthusiastically joining the hate - were only the opening act to what was to come. All of the events in this book occurred from 1933-35, more than three years prior to Kristallnacht.

(full article online)

The Yellow Spot: Detailed, contemporaneous accounts of Nazi persecution of Jews 1933-1935 sound a lot like today's antisemitism (PDF)

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[1srelluc]

As a aside HBO Films showing of The Survivor aired last evening. Not bad.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

I have been seeing a lot of article and threads on the Holocaust but have not found one which deals with the History, before, during and after. Therefore I am starting one now.

Any Holocaust denier is welcome to post and discuss here. Discuss, not attack, or troll. Proof that it did not happen, just post it.


It is important to tell History as it happened. Lets go at it.

Well I will start that Hitler was Mary Poppins compared to Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky

Hitler killed 6 million..........Them?????.........40?....50.....60? million

So we must start this thread saying the Soviets were 10 times worse. You have to admit that reality before you think further

We don't learn that in public skewls even 50 yrs ago. It was forbidden

 

[Sixties Fan]

When Roosevelt first took office in 1933, he had limited foreign-policy interests – while the public had significant isolationist tendencies, a legacy of WWI. McKean also noted sizable hostility toward immigration among Americans of the day.

“It was not an issue the American people accepted as something we should take interest in,” said McKean. “Waves of European immigrants were never a popular issue. The United States, frankly, was also quite an antisemitic country at the time.”


However, first lady Eleanor Roosevelt overruled Long when it came to saving the mostly Jewish passengers on the refugee ship SS Quanza in 1940.

“She was clearly a great humanitarian and in many ways Franklin’s political conscience,” McKean said.

In one chapter of the book, the Roosevelts are having breakfast, each reading the morning paper. When the first lady learns that Long is impeding immigration, she becomes furious: “Franklin, you know he’s a fascist!”

Dr. William E. Dodd, United States Ambassador to Germany, speaks at the Festival for International Exchange of Pupil at a Berlin concert hall May 29, 1935. (AP Photo)
“She was a truth-teller,” McKean reflects, “with a very honest humanitarian streak.”

McKean cited similar reasons for his admiration of Dodd, calling him “sort of the unwavering moral compass… I think he told Roosevelt the truth.”

As the book explains, Dodd was hardly philo-Semitic when he took up his ambassadorship in 1933. Although he rented two floors of a posh Berlin residence from a wealthy Jewish businessman and his family who lived on the third floor, he failed to recognize their motivations in renting it out to him.

“Dodd was so happy to get the apartment at a good rate that he did not recognize that the family living on the third floor did this hoping for American protection,” McKean said.

However, following his first meeting with Hitler, Dodd saw the Nazis as they really were. “They were evil, to put it simply,” McKean said.

(full article online)

Why did the US ignore diplomats who boldly raised an alarm about Hitler before WWII?

In new book 'Watching Darkness Fall,' former US ambassador David McKean illustrates how antisemitism, apathy and internal politics set America back in the war against Germany

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Ringel05]

Well I will start that Hitler was Mary Poppins compared to Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky

Hitler killed 6 million..........Them?????.........40?....50.....60? million

So we must start this thread saying the Soviets were 10 times worse. You have to admit that reality before you think further

We don't learn that in public skewls even 50 yrs ago. It was forbidden

What do the Soviets have to do with the Holocaust? Or are you claiming Stalin killed many more millions of Jews?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Well I will start that Hitler was Mary Poppins compared to Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky

Hitler killed 6 million..........Them?????.........40?....50.....60? million

So we must start this thread saying the Soviets were 10 times worse. You have to admit that reality before you think further

We don't learn that in public skewls even 50 yrs ago. It was forbidden

Actually, the Nazis killed many more than the 6 Million Jews:

How Many People did the Nazis Murder?

Behind the number of victims of the Holocaust and Nazi persecution are people whose hopes and dreams were destroyed. Learn about the toll of Nazi policies.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

One horror is no worse than the other. All were horrors and murdered too many people out of prejudice.

 

[Polishprince]

I know that a lot of holocaust survivors were really offended by Hogan's Heroes, which poked fun at the event back in the 1960's. Many contended that the camps were nothing like the one that was portrayed and that Colonel Klink and Sergeant Schultz were really atypical of those that they met in the German camp system.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I know that a lot of holocaust survivors were really offended by Hogan's Heroes, which poked fun at the event back in the 1960's. Many contended that the camps were nothing like the one that was portrayed and that Colonel Klink and Sergeant Schultz were really atypical of those that they met in the German camp system.

It was a comedy. I loved it. It made fun of the Nazis, just like The Producers and The Great Dictator did.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Actually, the Nazis killed many more than the 6 Million Jews:

How Many People did the Nazis Murder?

Behind the number of victims of the Holocaust and Nazi persecution are people whose hopes and dreams were destroyed. Learn about the toll of Nazi policies.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

One horror is no worse than the other. All were horrors and murdered too many people out of prejudice.

Very true. But not having any recognition is a sin. Highlighting glaringly one horror while never mentioning something way worse is wrong wrong wrong

What do you think of this. You and most don't even know about it....What does this tell you?

Emigration and the Evian Conference

In July 1938, 32 nations met in Evian, France, to discuss immigration policies for Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi Germany. Learn how these discussions impacted Jewish lives.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

We and the world could have saved the Jews. But we didn't did we

The NAZIS laughed and were given the OK

Of course we are not allowed to teach it. You have to find it yourself

 

[Sixties Fan]

Very true. But not having any recognition is a sin. Highlighting glaringly one horror while never mentioning something way worse is wrong wrong wrong

What do you think of this. You and most don't even know about it....What does this tell you?

Emigration and the Evian Conference

In July 1938, 32 nations met in Evian, France, to discuss immigration policies for Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi Germany. Learn how these discussions impacted Jewish lives.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

We and the world could have saved the Jews. But we didn't did we

The NAZIS laughed and were given the OK

Of course we are not allowed to teach it. You have to find it yourself

I started this thread to tell the HISTORY of the Holocaust, before, during and after.

Thank you for your contribution. It is well known that all countries did nothing to help Jews, because they were Jews, before and during. Possibly even after.

 

[Indeependent]

I started this thread to tell the HISTORY of the Holocaust, before, during and after.

Thank you for your contribution. It is well known that all countries did nothing to help Jews, because they were Jews, before and during. Possibly even after.

In Poland and Ukraine, the American troops had to escort Jews everywhere because the Poles and the Ukranians still wanted to kill off all the Jews.

 

[irosie91]

I know that a lot of holocaust survivors were really offended by Hogan's Heroes, which poked fun at the event back in the 1960's. Many contended that the camps were nothing like the one that was portrayed and that Colonel Klink and Sergeant Schultz were really atypical of those that they met in the German camp system.

Hogan's heroes were in a POW camp---not a
concentration camp created as a death factory
for jews. I am a jew and was not offended and
never met a jew who was----jews LOVE comedy
---it was TV fantasy----Captain Klink, himself, was a
Jewish actor---sorta.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

I started this thread to tell the HISTORY of the Holocaust, before, during and after.

Thank you for your contribution. It is well known that all countries did nothing to help Jews, because they were Jews, before and during. Possibly even after.

So we could have saved them then. We gave the Green Light for The Final Solution

Why Isn't that taught. Holocaust denial perhaps?

No one knows that the camps up to about 39 were filled with mostly Commies, Socialists, criminals, alkis, faggots...etc

We are not taught this at all........Hitler did not want to kill these people, he wanted them to pack up and leave first

Again. This is not taught. It is forbidden.It is a denial of what really caused this and how we DID NOT STOP IT?

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

In Poland and Ukraine, the American troops had to escort Jews everywhere because the Poles and the Ukranians still wanted to kill off all the Jews.

The Rooskies killed millions of Jews too. Again this is forbidden in public skewls

 

[Sixties Fan]

So we could have saved them then. We gave the Green Light for The Final Solution

Why Isn't that taught. Holocaust denial perhaps?

No one knows that the camps up to about 39 were filled with mostly Commies, Socialists, criminals, alkis, faggots...etc

We are not taught this at all........Hitler did not want to kill these people, he wanted them to pack up and leave first

Again. This is not taught. It is forbidden.It is a denial of what really caused this and how we DID NOT STOP IT?

Hitler ended up not expelling all the Jews from where he conquered because there was an Arab Muslim in Palestine who did not want Jews to come back to their homeland and rebuild their Nation.

Al Husseini did everything he could, riots, incitement in Palestine and Iraq in order to scare the Jews from coming.

It is up to us to teach it here, and the Holocaust Memorials and Museums and supporting all schools and colleges to teach them.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Rooskies killed millions of Jews too. Again this is forbidden in public skewls

What are you doing about it? Writing to your congressman, Mayor, Governor or President?

Writing to schools, giving speeches about it?

What are you doing about it besides complaining that there is a lack of teaching it?

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

In Poland and Ukraine, the American troops had to escort Jews everywhere because the Poles and the Ukranians still wanted to kill off all the Jews.

The world could have absorbed all those Jews in 1938 Conference. Not one country took bit a handful

We sat on our asses and let this happen..................The cheating cripple arranged this...lololol.He didn't even want him

I'm so amazed how few know any of these facts.I must remedy that

 

[Sixties Fan]

The world could have absorbed all those Jews in 1938 Conference. Not one country took bit a handful

We sat on our asses and let this happen..................The cheating cripple arranged this...lololol.He didn't even want him

I'm so amazed how few know any of these facts.I must remedy that

Have you ever heard that Christians are haters of Jews?

That is exactly why no country would absorb any of those Jews and allowed those who were expelled from immigrating to the Mandate for Palestine to end up in those concentration camps and murdered.

Roosevelt was taught not to care about Jews, like many other Christians. And his advisors were no better.

Therefore we got what we got.

History is made of cowards who just go along.

 

[JoeB131]

Nobody denies the Holocaust happened.

Some of us don't think it should become a permanent hall pass three generations later for the Zionists to abuse the Palestinians.